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  + shaped mouse pointer in Safari's address field Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-10 21:26 -0700
    Re: + shaped mouse pointer in Safari's address field dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-01-11 16:08 +1100
      Re: + shaped mouse pointer in Safari's address field Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-01-10 21:18 -0800
        Re: + shaped mouse pointer in Safari's address field dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-01-11 17:42 +1100
    Re: + shaped mouse pointer in Safari's address field Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-11 05:44 +0000
      Re: + shaped mouse pointer in Safari's address field Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-01-11 00:22 -0800
        Re: + shaped mouse pointer in Safari's address field Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-11 14:21 +0000
    Re: + shaped mouse pointer in Safari's address field Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2015-01-11 13:20 +0100
      Re: + shaped mouse pointer in Safari's address field Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-11 14:20 +0000
        Re: + shaped mouse pointer in Safari's address field Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2015-01-11 23:16 +0100

#68209 — + shaped mouse pointer in Safari's address field

I noticed this in Yosemite, but don't recall seeing it in previous
versions.

If you press the option key when the mouse pointer is in the address
field (the one where you enter a URL or search item) in Safari, it
changes to a + shape.  Anyone know why it does this?

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#68210

In article <100120152126001125%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> I noticed this in Yosemite, but don't recall seeing it in previous
> versions.
> 
> If you press the option key when the mouse pointer is in the address
> field (the one where you enter a URL or search item) in Safari, it
> changes to a + shape.  Anyone know why it does this?

Does this in the last Safari for Snow Leopard too. You have to click 
in the address bar, then it changes to a + with option. Does this in a 
few browsers (not FF though).

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dorayme

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#68212

On 2015-01-11 05:08:12 +0000, dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> said:

> In article <100120152126001125%michelle@michelle.org>,
>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
>> I noticed this in Yosemite, but don't recall seeing it in previous
>> versions.
>> 
>> If you press the option key when the mouse pointer is in the address
>> field (the one where you enter a URL or search item) in Safari, it
>> changes to a + shape.  Anyone know why it does this?
> 
> Does this in the last Safari for Snow Leopard too. You have to click
> in the address bar, then it changes to a + with option. Does this in a
> few browsers (not FF though).

To what purpose?

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Regards,

Savageduck

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#68217

In article <2015011021183119195-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> On 2015-01-11 05:08:12 +0000, dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> said:
> 
> > In article <100120152126001125%michelle@michelle.org>,
> >  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> > 
> >> I noticed this in Yosemite, but don't recall seeing it in previous
> >> versions.
> >> 
> >> If you press the option key when the mouse pointer is in the address
> >> field (the one where you enter a URL or search item) in Safari, it
> >> changes to a + shape.  Anyone know why it does this?
> > 
> > Does this in the last Safari for Snow Leopard too. You have to click
> > in the address bar, then it changes to a + with option. Does this in a
> > few browsers (not FF though).
> 
> To what purpose?

If I knew, I would have said. I suspect it is a bug or some sort of 
useful feature in other contexts and a programming leftover in a 
context where it has no use, bit like your appendix, human.

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dorayme

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#68216

On 2015-01-11, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> I noticed this in Yosemite, but don't recall seeing it in previous
> versions.
>
> If you press the option key when the mouse pointer is in the address
> field (the one where you enter a URL or search item) in Safari, it
> changes to a + shape.  Anyone know why it does this?

What you are describing is what is often referred to as rectangular
selection mode. It allows you to select text by drawing a rectangle
around the text you wish to select. It's not very useful in single-line
text fields, but is enabled by default by Mac OS X so that users may use
it in multi-line text fields. You can get a better idea of how it works
in an application like TextEdit:

<http://jollyroger.kicks-ass.org/rectangular_selection.mov>

If you hold down the Command key instead, you can select multiple
disparate or disconnected sections of text as well.

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#68224

On 2015-01-11 05:44:57 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:

> On 2015-01-11, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>> I noticed this in Yosemite, but don't recall seeing it in previous
>> versions.
>> 
>> If you press the option key when the mouse pointer is in the address
>> field (the one where you enter a URL or search item) in Safari, it
>> changes to a + shape.  Anyone know why it does this?
> 
> What you are describing is what is often referred to as rectangular
> selection mode. It allows you to select text by drawing a rectangle
> around the text you wish to select. It's not very useful in single-line
> text fields, but is enabled by default by Mac OS X so that users may use
> it in multi-line text fields. You can get a better idea of how it works
> in an application like TextEdit:
> 
> <http://jollyroger.kicks-ass.org/rectangular_selection.mov>
> 
> If you hold down the Command key instead, you can select multiple
> disparate or disconnected sections of text as well.

My continuing eduction continues,
Thanks for the information.

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Regards,

Savageduck

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#68234

On 2015-01-11, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2015-01-11 05:44:57 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> said:
>
>> On 2015-01-11, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>> I noticed this in Yosemite, but don't recall seeing it in previous
>>> versions.
>>> 
>>> If you press the option key when the mouse pointer is in the address
>>> field (the one where you enter a URL or search item) in Safari, it
>>> changes to a + shape.  Anyone know why it does this?
>> 
>> What you are describing is what is often referred to as rectangular
>> selection mode. It allows you to select text by drawing a rectangle
>> around the text you wish to select. It's not very useful in single-line
>> text fields, but is enabled by default by Mac OS X so that users may use
>> it in multi-line text fields. You can get a better idea of how it works
>> in an application like TextEdit:
>> 
>> <http://jollyroger.kicks-ass.org/rectangular_selection.mov>
>> 
>> If you hold down the Command key instead, you can select multiple
>> disparate or disconnected sections of text as well.
>
> My continuing eduction continues,
> Thanks for the information.

Welcome. : )

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#68231

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On 2015-01-11, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> I noticed this in Yosemite, but don't recall seeing it in previous
> versions.
>
> If you press the option key when the mouse pointer is in the address
> field (the one where you enter a URL or search item) in Safari, it
> changes to a + shape.  Anyone know why it does this?

Confirmed that it does this, but no I don't know why.

I wonder if this is the source of some of the "cursor disappearing in
Yosemite" complaints I've come across.

When I'm running Amadeus Pro, the mouse cursor does change when over
a sound track, and I've noticed that since moving to Yosemite, it
sometimes doesn't revert to a normal cursor when moving away from that
app.  Only very occasionally, and I haven't seen it in a while (since
10.10.1 came along? - dunno).

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#68233

On 2015-01-11, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
> On 2015-01-11, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>> I noticed this in Yosemite, but don't recall seeing it in previous
>> versions.
>>
>> If you press the option key when the mouse pointer is in the address
>> field (the one where you enter a URL or search item) in Safari, it
>> changes to a + shape.  Anyone know why it does this?
>
> Confirmed that it does this, but no I don't know why.

See my reply to the OP.

> I wonder if this is the source of some of the "cursor disappearing in
> Yosemite" complaints I've come across.

That's unrelated. It's a default text selection feature, as I explained.

> When I'm running Amadeus Pro, the mouse cursor does change when over
> a sound track, and I've noticed that since moving to Yosemite, it
> sometimes doesn't revert to a normal cursor when moving away from that
> app.  Only very occasionally, and I haven't seen it in a while (since
> 10.10.1 came along? - dunno).

As I explained in Alan's "disappearing cursor" thread, applications can
control the cursor in Mac OS X and do sometimes fail to restore or set
the cursor back to what it was supposed to be, due to bugs in said
applications. While it's always possible that bugs exist in the core OS
regarding the setting of the cursor, it's less likely. Very often, it is
the application itself that is responsible for the behavior.

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#68284

On 2015-01-11, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2015-01-11, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
>> On 2015-01-11, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>> I noticed this in Yosemite, but don't recall seeing it in previous
>>> versions.
>>>
>>> If you press the option key when the mouse pointer is in the address
>>> field (the one where you enter a URL or search item) in Safari, it
>>> changes to a + shape.  Anyone know why it does this?
>>
>> Confirmed that it does this, but no I don't know why.
>
> See my reply to the OP.

Saw that after I'd posted.  It makes sense now.  Thanks.

>> I wonder if this is the source of some of the "cursor disappearing in
>> Yosemite" complaints I've come across.
>
> That's unrelated. It's a default text selection feature, as I explained.
>
>> When I'm running Amadeus Pro, the mouse cursor does change when over
>> a sound track, and I've noticed that since moving to Yosemite, it
>> sometimes doesn't revert to a normal cursor when moving away from that
>> app.  Only very occasionally, and I haven't seen it in a while (since
>> 10.10.1 came along? - dunno).
>
> As I explained in Alan's "disappearing cursor" thread, applications can
> control the cursor in Mac OS X and do sometimes fail to restore or set
> the cursor back to what it was supposed to be, due to bugs in said
> applications. While it's always possible that bugs exist in the core OS
> regarding the setting of the cursor, it's less likely. Very often, it is
> the application itself that is responsible for the behavior.

I believe applications were the culprits in the instances I've seen.

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(but POSIX-compliant implementations will ignore leap seconds)

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