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| Started by | Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> |
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| First post | 2014-07-13 13:22 -0700 |
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App Store app fails to find updates for iMac Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-07-13 13:22 -0700
Re: App Store app fails to find updates for iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-13 20:47 +0000
Re: App Store app fails to find updates for iMac Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-07-13 17:42 -0700
Re: App Store app fails to find updates for iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-14 00:54 +0000
Re: App Store app fails to find updates for iMac David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-07-14 15:20 -0400
| From | Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-07-13 13:22 -0700 |
| Subject | App Store app fails to find updates for iMac |
| Message-ID | <myk37h80va.fsf@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU> |
When I click on Updates at the top of the App Store app on my iMac, a wheel at the top left corner spins for a minute or two and then stops, leaving a blank window except for the toolbar icons on top and the Copyright statement at the bottom. It does NOT say "No updates found" (like it used to when there were no updates), nor does it show any recent updates like it used to. The Updates icon at the top shows a circled "1", and iTunes (11.2.2) says that there's an update (11.3). When iTunes starts up App Store to download the update, App Store spins and spins and fails to find any updates or to show recent updates. The other App Store icons (Featured, Top Charts, ...) all seem to be working fine, and they show me logged in to the App Store. Rebooting the iMac doesn't have any effect on the problem. I'm running Maverics 10.9.4 with App Store 1.3. I have normal network connectivity, e.g., I can view http://apple.com, read mail, etc. Any ideas? Martin
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-13 20:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <c2g9iiFo91tU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #62192 |
On 2014-07-13, Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote: > When I click on Updates at the top of the App Store app on my iMac, a > wheel at the top left corner spins for a minute or two and then stops, > leaving a blank window except for the toolbar icons on top and the > Copyright statement at the bottom. It does NOT say "No updates found" > (like it used to when there were no updates), nor does it show any > recent updates like it used to. > > The Updates icon at the top shows a circled "1", and iTunes (11.2.2) > says that there's an update (11.3). When iTunes starts up App Store > to download the update, App Store spins and spins and fails to find > any updates or to show recent updates. > > The other App Store icons (Featured, Top Charts, ...) all seem to be > working fine, and they show me logged in to the App Store. > > Rebooting the iMac doesn't have any effect on the problem. > > I'm running Maverics 10.9.4 with App Store 1.3. I have normal network > connectivity, e.g., I can view http://apple.com, read mail, etc. > > Any ideas? A few ideas: Quit App Store, open /Applications/Utilities/Console, and then choose Software Update from the Apple menu. Watch the log for any messages related to the App Store update process. Do you notice anything relevant there? Feel free to post *relevant* log messages here (don't include messages with time stamps before you ran Software Update, for instance), and we'll help you figure out what they mean, if needed. Go into System Preferences > Users & Groups, and create a brand-new Mac OS X user account with administrator access (just call it something like "Test"). Log into that account and run Software Update from that account. Does it work, or does it behave the same way? Open /Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility, select your Mac OS X startup volume on the left side of the window, and click "Verify Disk Permissions" (not "Verify Disk", and not "Repair"). Paste the resulting output in a reply here. If permissions are incorrect, it could be repairing them will fix the issue; but it's best to run Verify first so that you know what's wrong before repairing. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-07-13 17:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <my4myksrdt.fsf@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU> |
| In reply to | #62194 |
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> writes: > On 2014-07-13, Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote: > > When I click on Updates at the top of the App Store app on my iMac, a > > wheel at the top left corner spins for a minute or two and then stops, > > leaving a blank window except for the toolbar icons on top and the > > Copyright statement at the bottom. It does NOT say "No updates found" > > (like it used to when there were no updates), nor does it show any > > recent updates like it used to. > > > > The Updates icon at the top shows a circled "1", and iTunes (11.2.2) > > says that there's an update (11.3). When iTunes starts up App Store > > to download the update, App Store spins and spins and fails to find > > any updates or to show recent updates. > > > > The other App Store icons (Featured, Top Charts, ...) all seem to be > > working fine, and they show me logged in to the App Store. > > > > Rebooting the iMac doesn't have any effect on the problem. > > > > I'm running Maverics 10.9.4 with App Store 1.3. I have normal network > > connectivity, e.g., I can view http://apple.com, read mail, etc. > > > > Any ideas? > > A few ideas: Thanks for the suggestions, JR. > Quit App Store, open /Applications/Utilities/Console, and then choose > Software Update from the Apple menu. Watch the log for any messages > related to the App Store update process. Do you notice anything relevant > there? Feel free to post *relevant* log messages here (don't include > messages with time stamps before you ran Software Update, for instance), > and we'll help you figure out what they mean, if needed. The log showed an Ethernet error every few seconds, errors that seem not to happen except while App Store is trying to check for updates. 7/13/14 5:08:01.000 pm kernel[0]: AppleBCM5701Ethernet [en0]: 5ef 5ee receivePackets - dropping oversize packet So I unplugged the Ethernet and switched to WiFi. Bingo, App Store was able to find and show the iTunes update, which I was able to install. I then turned off WiFi, switched back to Ethernet, and tried App Store again. Once again, checking for updates caused the same error "dropping oversize packets" every few seconds. I hadn't changed my network configuration in many months, and App Store updates had been working with earlier versions of Mavericks. It may have broken when I installed 10.9.4. The iMac's Ethernet is connected to a Linksys 2800 gigabit switch, which is connected to a Linksys BEFSR81 router, which is connected to my Cisco cable modem. > Go into System Preferences > Users & Groups, and create a brand-new Mac > OS X user account with administrator access (just call it something like > "Test"). Log into that account and run Software Update from that > account. Does it work, or does it behave the same way? Tried that before switching to WiFi. Same problem with new admin user. > Open /Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility, select your Mac OS X startup > volume on the left side of the window, and click "Verify Disk > Permissions" (not "Verify Disk", and not "Repair"). Paste the resulting > output in a reply here. If permissions are incorrect, it could be > repairing them will fix the issue; but it's best to run Verify first so > that you know what's wrong before repairing. Also tried that before switching to WiFi. Got 2651 'differ' messages: 1146 for groups, 1505 for permissions. 2232 of those are within the iBooks app, 53 in the iTunes app, 352 in the EPSON Scanner app, and scattered diffs in some Library files. One odd one is a file that the Verify says should be a symbolic link: Permissions differ on \'93Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Resources/Safari.help/Contents/Resources/index.html\'94; should be lrwxr-xr-x ; they are -rw-r--r-- . Martin
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-14 00:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <c2go2aFr0nhU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #62195 |
On 2014-07-14, Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> writes: > >> On 2014-07-13, Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote: >> > >> > When I click on Updates at the top of the App Store app on my iMac, a >> > wheel at the top left corner spins for a minute or two and then stops, >> > leaving a blank window except for the toolbar icons on top and the >> > Copyright statement at the bottom. It does NOT say "No updates found" >> > (like it used to when there were no updates), nor does it show any >> > recent updates like it used to. >> > >> > The Updates icon at the top shows a circled "1", and iTunes (11.2.2) >> > says that there's an update (11.3). When iTunes starts up App Store >> > to download the update, App Store spins and spins and fails to find >> > any updates or to show recent updates. >> > >> > The other App Store icons (Featured, Top Charts, ...) all seem to be >> > working fine, and they show me logged in to the App Store. >> > >> > Rebooting the iMac doesn't have any effect on the problem. >> > >> > I'm running Maverics 10.9.4 with App Store 1.3. I have normal network >> > connectivity, e.g., I can view http://apple.com, read mail, etc. >> > >> > Any ideas? >> >> A few ideas: > > Thanks for the suggestions, JR. > >> Quit App Store, open /Applications/Utilities/Console, and then choose >> Software Update from the Apple menu. Watch the log for any messages >> related to the App Store update process. Do you notice anything relevant >> there? Feel free to post *relevant* log messages here (don't include >> messages with time stamps before you ran Software Update, for instance), >> and we'll help you figure out what they mean, if needed. > > The log showed an Ethernet error every few seconds, errors that seem > not to happen except while App Store is trying to check for updates. > > 7/13/14 5:08:01.000 pm kernel[0]: AppleBCM5701Ethernet [en0]: 5ef 5ee > receivePackets - dropping oversize packet > > So I unplugged the Ethernet and switched to WiFi. Bingo, App Store > was able to find and show the iTunes update, which I was able to > install. > > I then turned off WiFi, switched back to Ethernet, and tried App Store > again. Once again, checking for updates caused the same error > "dropping oversize packets" every few seconds. > > I hadn't changed my network configuration in many months, and App > Store updates had been working with earlier versions of Mavericks. It > may have broken when I installed 10.9.4. The iMac's Ethernet is > connected to a Linksys 2800 gigabit switch, which is connected to a > Linksys BEFSR81 router, which is connected to my Cisco cable modem. That's interesting. What output do you get when you enter this command in a terminal window?: ifconfig en0 Here's what I get on my MacBook Pro (MAC address obscured by *): en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 options=10b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_HWTAGGING,AV> ether **:**:**:**:**:** nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD> media: autoselect (none) status: inactive You might try going into System Preferences > Network, selecting the Ethernet interface on the left side, clicking the [-] button on the bottom to remove it, then click the [+] button to add back the Ethernet interface. Then configure it as you would normally, and try the test again to see if anything has changed. I suppose the other thing to check is the MTU size on the router itself, or any Ethernet setting that might affect packet size. Have you tried simply resetting the router to see if the problem vanishes after the restart? Just throwing out ideas as they hit me, in no particular order... ; ) >> Go into System Preferences > Users & Groups, and create a brand-new Mac >> OS X user account with administrator access (just call it something like >> "Test"). Log into that account and run Software Update from that >> account. Does it work, or does it behave the same way? > > Tried that before switching to WiFi. Same problem with new admin user. Okay, so we've ruled out user-specific settings. >> Open /Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility, select your Mac OS X startup >> volume on the left side of the window, and click "Verify Disk >> Permissions" (not "Verify Disk", and not "Repair"). Paste the resulting >> output in a reply here. If permissions are incorrect, it could be >> repairing them will fix the issue; but it's best to run Verify first so >> that you know what's wrong before repairing. > > Also tried that before switching to WiFi. Got 2651 'differ' messages: > 1146 for groups, 1505 for permissions. 2232 of those are within the > iBooks app, 53 in the iTunes app, 352 in the EPSON Scanner app, and > scattered diffs in some Library files. One odd one is a file that the > Verify says should be a symbolic link: > > Permissions differ on \'93Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Resources/Safari.help/Contents/Resources/index.html\'94; should be lrwxr-xr-x ; they are -rw-r--r-- . I suppose it would be worth the time to run Repair Permissions then, and then run the test again to see if things improve after the repair. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> |
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| Date | 2014-07-14 15:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <dfritzin-697BE2.15200014072014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #62196 |
In article <c2go2aFr0nhU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2014-07-14, Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu > <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote: > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> writes: > > > >> On 2014-07-13, Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu > >> <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote: > >> > > >> > When I click on Updates at the top of the App Store app on my iMac, a > >> > wheel at the top left corner spins for a minute or two and then stops, > >> > leaving a blank window except for the toolbar icons on top and the > >> > Copyright statement at the bottom. It does NOT say "No updates found" > >> > (like it used to when there were no updates), nor does it show any > >> > recent updates like it used to. > >> > > >> > The Updates icon at the top shows a circled "1", and iTunes (11.2.2) > >> > says that there's an update (11.3). When iTunes starts up App Store > >> > to download the update, App Store spins and spins and fails to find > >> > any updates or to show recent updates. > >> > > >> > The other App Store icons (Featured, Top Charts, ...) all seem to be > >> > working fine, and they show me logged in to the App Store. > >> > > >> > Rebooting the iMac doesn't have any effect on the problem. > >> > > >> > I'm running Maverics 10.9.4 with App Store 1.3. I have normal network > >> > connectivity, e.g., I can view http://apple.com, read mail, etc. > >> > > >> > Any ideas? > >> > >> A few ideas: > > > > Thanks for the suggestions, JR. > > > >> Quit App Store, open /Applications/Utilities/Console, and then choose > >> Software Update from the Apple menu. Watch the log for any messages > >> related to the App Store update process. Do you notice anything relevant > >> there? Feel free to post *relevant* log messages here (don't include > >> messages with time stamps before you ran Software Update, for instance), > >> and we'll help you figure out what they mean, if needed. > > > > The log showed an Ethernet error every few seconds, errors that seem > > not to happen except while App Store is trying to check for updates. > > > > 7/13/14 5:08:01.000 pm kernel[0]: AppleBCM5701Ethernet [en0]: 5ef 5ee > > receivePackets - dropping oversize packet > > > > So I unplugged the Ethernet and switched to WiFi. Bingo, App Store > > was able to find and show the iTunes update, which I was able to > > install. > > > > I then turned off WiFi, switched back to Ethernet, and tried App Store > > again. Once again, checking for updates caused the same error > > "dropping oversize packets" every few seconds. > > > > I hadn't changed my network configuration in many months, and App > > Store updates had been working with earlier versions of Mavericks. It > > may have broken when I installed 10.9.4. The iMac's Ethernet is > > connected to a Linksys 2800 gigabit switch, which is connected to a > > Linksys BEFSR81 router, which is connected to my Cisco cable modem. > > That's interesting. > > What output do you get when you enter this command in a terminal > window?: > > ifconfig en0 > > Here's what I get on my MacBook Pro (MAC address obscured by *): > > en0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 > options=10b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_HWTAGGING,AV> > ether **:**:**:**:**:** > nd6 options=1<PERFORMNUD> > media: autoselect (none) > status: inactive > > You might try going into System Preferences > Network, selecting the > Ethernet interface on the left side, clicking the [-] button on the > bottom to remove it, then click the [+] button to add back the Ethernet > interface. Then configure it as you would normally, and try the test > again to see if anything has changed. > > I suppose the other thing to check is the MTU size on the router itself, > or any Ethernet setting that might affect packet size. > > Have you tried simply resetting the router to see if the problem > vanishes after the restart? > > Just throwing out ideas as they hit me, in no particular order... ; ) Just a thought: The problem probably is not with your router, since the wifi is working well. Do you have any other computers attached to the router? Is the ethernet on them OK? How about computers attached to your switch? If so, are they OK? Have you tried plugging into different ports on the router or switch, to see if one of your ports is bad? Hope some of these suggestions help. > > >> Go into System Preferences > Users & Groups, and create a brand-new Mac > >> OS X user account with administrator access (just call it something like > >> "Test"). Log into that account and run Software Update from that > >> account. Does it work, or does it behave the same way? > > > > Tried that before switching to WiFi. Same problem with new admin user. > > Okay, so we've ruled out user-specific settings. > > >> Open /Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility, select your Mac OS X startup > >> volume on the left side of the window, and click "Verify Disk > >> Permissions" (not "Verify Disk", and not "Repair"). Paste the resulting > >> output in a reply here. If permissions are incorrect, it could be > >> repairing them will fix the issue; but it's best to run Verify first so > >> that you know what's wrong before repairing. > > > > Also tried that before switching to WiFi. Got 2651 'differ' messages: > > 1146 for groups, 1505 for permissions. 2232 of those are within the > > iBooks app, 53 in the iTunes app, 352 in the EPSON Scanner app, and > > scattered diffs in some Library files. One odd one is a file that the > > Verify says should be a symbolic link: > > > > Permissions differ on > > \'93Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Resources/Safari.help/Contents/Resour > > ces/index.html\'94; should be lrwxr-xr-x ; they are -rw-r--r-- . > > I suppose it would be worth the time to run Repair Permissions then, and > then run the test again to see if things improve after the repair.
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