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  Moving files by moving small icon. dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-10 04:06 +1000
    Re: Moving files by moving small icon. J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-04-09 15:34 -0400
      Re: Moving files by moving small icon. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-09 20:20 +0000
        Re: Moving files by moving small icon. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-09 21:02 -0400
          Re: Moving files by moving small icon. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-10 01:53 +0000
        Re: Moving files by moving small icon. dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-10 12:06 +1000
          Re: Moving files by moving small icon. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-10 00:30 -0400
            Re: Moving files by moving small icon. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-10 21:36 +0000
              Re: Moving files by moving small icon. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-10 18:43 -0400
          Re: Moving files by moving small icon. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-10 07:59 -0400
      Re: Moving files by moving small icon. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-10 17:03 +1200
        Re: Moving files by moving small icon. billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-10 06:17 +0000
          Re: Moving files by moving small icon. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-10 18:35 +1200
            Re: Moving files by moving small icon. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-16 13:21 +0000
          Re: Moving files by moving small icon. dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-10 18:01 +1000
            Re: Moving files by moving small icon. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-10 15:13 -0400
        Re: Moving files by moving small icon. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-10 15:05 -0400
    Re: Moving files by moving small icon. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-09 21:01 -0400
      Re: Moving files by moving small icon. J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-04-10 09:17 -0400
        Re: Moving files by moving small icon. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-04-10 15:14 -0400
        Re: Moving files by moving small icon. dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-11 08:35 +1000
          Re: Moving files by moving small icon. dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-11 08:38 +1000
            Re: Moving files by moving small icon. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-10 18:42 -0400
              Re: Moving files by moving small icon. dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-11 10:18 +1000
          Re: Moving files by moving small icon. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-16 13:20 +0000
    Re: Moving files by moving small icon. Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-10 19:55 +0200
      Re: Moving files by moving small icon. J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-04-10 15:08 -0400

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#58427 — Moving files by moving small icon.

A tip I heard a while ago: you can move an open file by dragging the 
little icon in the title bar (the grey strip at the top where the 
yellow, red and green buttons reside) wherever you want. This combined 
with spring-loading (the way disks and folders open to reveal inner 
files and folders on mouse hover), makes it easy. Beats having to find 
the path in other ways and going to original location and moving it.

-- 
dorayme

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#58428

On 4/9/14, 2:06 PM, dorayme wrote:
> A tip I heard a while ago: you can move an open file by dragging the
> little icon in the title bar (the grey strip at the top where the
> yellow, red and green buttons reside) wherever you want. This combined
> with spring-loading (the way disks and folders open to reveal inner
> files and folders on mouse hover), makes it easy. Beats having to find
> the path in other ways and going to original location and moving it.
>
It works for me, too!  Thanks.

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#58429

On 2014-04-09, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 4/9/14, 2:06 PM, dorayme wrote:
>> A tip I heard a while ago: you can move an open file by dragging the
>> little icon in the title bar (the grey strip at the top where the
>> yellow, red and green buttons reside) wherever you want. This combined
>> with spring-loading (the way disks and folders open to reveal inner
>> files and folders on mouse hover), makes it easy. Beats having to find
>> the path in other ways and going to original location and moving it.
>>
> It works for me, too!  Thanks.

This feature has been around since classic Mac OS.

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JR

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#58438

On 2014.04.09, 16:20 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2014-04-09, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On 4/9/14, 2:06 PM, dorayme wrote:
>>> A tip I heard a while ago: you can move an open file by dragging the
>>> little icon in the title bar (the grey strip at the top where the
>>> yellow, red and green buttons reside) wherever you want. This combined
>>> with spring-loading (the way disks and folders open to reveal inner
>>> files and folders on mouse hover), makes it easy. Beats having to find
>>> the path in other ways and going to original location and moving it.
>>>
>> It works for me, too!  Thanks.
>
> This feature has been around since classic Mac OS.

I've been using Macs (regularly) since early 2008.  So a good thing to 
know (maybe) for me.

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#58440

On 2014-04-10, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2014.04.09, 16:20 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2014-04-09, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/9/14, 2:06 PM, dorayme wrote:
>>>> A tip I heard a while ago: you can move an open file by dragging the
>>>> little icon in the title bar (the grey strip at the top where the
>>>> yellow, red and green buttons reside) wherever you want. This combined
>>>> with spring-loading (the way disks and folders open to reveal inner
>>>> files and folders on mouse hover), makes it easy. Beats having to find
>>>> the path in other ways and going to original location and moving it.
>>>>
>>> It works for me, too!  Thanks.
>>
>> This feature has been around since classic Mac OS.
>
> I've been using Macs (regularly) since early 2008.  So a good thing to 
> know (maybe) for me.

For any Mac user!

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#58442

In article <bqlocjFho4lU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-04-09, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > On 4/9/14, 2:06 PM, dorayme wrote:
> >> A tip I heard a while ago: you can move an open file by dragging the
> >> little icon in the title bar (the grey strip at the top where the
> >> yellow, red and green buttons reside) wherever you want. This combined
> >> with spring-loading (the way disks and folders open to reveal inner
> >> files and folders on mouse hover), makes it easy. Beats having to find
> >> the path in other ways and going to original location and moving it.
> >>
> > It works for me, too!  Thanks.
> 
> This feature has been around since classic Mac OS.

In fact, I heard it just after a battle in The American Civil War when 
I was hoping to find you and the rest of The Balderstone Gang in the 
Yankee ranks.

-- 
dorayme

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#58444

Different trick but in same vein:

Edit image in Photoshop (launched from Bridge).
Rename file in Bridge.

Save file in Photoshop (which still thinks of the old name).  The saved
file goes to the new filename.  (likely due to inode cached in the app
and the open to write goes to the numbered file instead of by filename)

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#58466

On 2014-04-10, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> Different trick but in same vein:
>
> Edit image in Photoshop (launched from Bridge).
> Rename file in Bridge.
> Save file in Photoshop (which still thinks of the old name).  The saved
> file goes to the new filename.  (likely due to inode cached in the app
> and the open to write goes to the numbered file instead of by filename)

Correct. Typical Mac apps use aliases to reference files. Aliases
utilize inodes.

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#58470

In article <bqoh7rF5256U2@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> > Edit image in Photoshop (launched from Bridge).
> > Rename file in Bridge.
> > Save file in Photoshop (which still thinks of the old name).  The saved
> > file goes to the new filename.  (likely due to inode cached in the app
> > and the open to write goes to the numbered file instead of by filename)
> 
> Correct. Typical Mac apps use aliases to reference files. Aliases
> utilize inodes.

not while open, they don't. apps sometimes use aliases to track closed
files though, but bookmarks is the new preferred way.

aliases can use inodes but not always. they use a combination of
things, including the full path, a persistent id (which can be but
isn't necessarily an inode) and other information to locate a file,
including on unmounted volumes. an alias file also has an icns and an
alis resource in the resource fork.

what he's talking about is changing the name of an open file, which
isn't normally an issue unless the app is poorly written (some do
exist). some apps even detect the name change and update the title bar
with the new name immediately (e.g., preview). however, photoshop
updates it the next time the document is saved.

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#58452

In article <do_ray_me-ED5703.12063610042014@news.albasani.net>,
 dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> In article <bqlocjFho4lU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 2014-04-09, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > > On 4/9/14, 2:06 PM, dorayme wrote:
> > >> A tip I heard a while ago: you can move an open file by dragging the
> > >> little icon in the title bar (the grey strip at the top where the
> > >> yellow, red and green buttons reside) wherever you want. This combined
> > >> with spring-loading (the way disks and folders open to reveal inner
> > >> files and folders on mouse hover), makes it easy. Beats having to find
> > >> the path in other ways and going to original location and moving it.
> > >>
> > > It works for me, too!  Thanks.
> > 
> > This feature has been around since classic Mac OS.
> 
> In fact, I heard it just after a battle in The American Civil War when 
> I was hoping to find you and the rest of The Balderstone Gang in the 
> Yankee ranks.

Ha! I heard about it during the Revolutionary War when the Swamp Fox and 
I were setting up a database for the Continental Congress. He (Col. 
Marion) told me that it had come down to his family from an ancestor who 
had helped erect Stonehenge.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#58445

In article <li47bp$u6m$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
wrote:
> On 4/9/14, 2:06 PM, dorayme wrote:
> > A tip I heard a while ago: you can move an open file by dragging the
> > little icon in the title bar (the grey strip at the top where the
> > yellow, red and green buttons reside) wherever you want. This combined
> > with spring-loading (the way disks and folders open to reveal inner
> > files and folders on mouse hover), makes it easy. Beats having to find
> > the path in other ways and going to original location and moving it.
> 
> It works for me, too!  Thanks.

That's been around for a while, but it may not work in every
application. You can also Command-click / right-click on the filename
in the window's title bar to get the path.

There are many, many "hidden" little features like that. :-)

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#58449

Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> writes:

> There are many, many "hidden" little features like that. :-)

Yea.  Someone should tell Apple the job's not finished
until the documentation is done.

In the meantime, just clicking on stuff can be illuminating.

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#58450

In article <li5d1f$88c$3@reader2.panix.com>, <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:
> Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> writes:
> 
> > There are many, many "hidden" little features like that. :-)
> 
> Yea.  Someone should tell Apple the job's not finished
> until the documentation is done.
> 
> In the meantime, just clicking on stuff can be illuminating.

Even back in the days when you actually got documentation in the box,
there were still plenty of "hidden" features.  :-)

The computer magazines like MacFormat and MacWorld sometimes do
articles on the "Hidden Features". The Christmas 2013 issue of
MacFormat had one titled "75 awesome hidden Mavericks features" ...
although most of them weren't "awesome".

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#58564

In message <100420141835379820%YourName@YourISP.com> 
  Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> In article <li5d1f$88c$3@reader2.panix.com>, <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:
>> Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> writes:
>> 
>> > There are many, many "hidden" little features like that. :-)
>> 
>> Yea.  Someone should tell Apple the job's not finished
>> until the documentation is done.
>> 
>> In the meantime, just clicking on stuff can be illuminating.

> Even back in the days when you actually got documentation in the box,
> there were still plenty of "hidden" features.  :-)

> The computer magazines like MacFormat and MacWorld sometimes do
> articles on the "Hidden Features". The Christmas 2013 issue of
> MacFormat had one titled "75 awesome hidden Mavericks features" ...
> although most of them weren't "awesome".

Nor hidden, for that matter.

-- 
'Good and bad is tricky, she [Esme] said. 'I ain't too certain about
where people stand. P'raps what matters is which way you face.'

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#58451

In article <li5d1f$88c$3@reader2.panix.com>, billy@MIX.COM wrote:

> Someone should tell Apple the job's not finished
> until the documentation is done.

Why? Can't you *get* that it is interesting to have undocumented 
features and that not everyone needs to know everything easily.

-- 
dorayme

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#58460

On 2014.04.10, 04:01 , dorayme wrote:
> In article <li5d1f$88c$3@reader2.panix.com>, billy@MIX.COM wrote:
>
>> Someone should tell Apple the job's not finished
>> until the documentation is done.
>
> Why? Can't you *get* that it is interesting to have undocumented
> features and that not everyone needs to know everything easily.

You've said some obtuse things in the past, but that one is damned near 
flat.


-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#58457

On 2014.04.10, 01:03 , Your Name wrote:
> In article <li47bp$u6m$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>> On 4/9/14, 2:06 PM, dorayme wrote:
>>> A tip I heard a while ago: you can move an open file by dragging the
>>> little icon in the title bar (the grey strip at the top where the
>>> yellow, red and green buttons reside) wherever you want. This combined
>>> with spring-loading (the way disks and folders open to reveal inner
>>> files and folders on mouse hover), makes it easy. Beats having to find
>>> the path in other ways and going to original location and moving it.
>>
>> It works for me, too!  Thanks.
>
> That's been around for a while, but it may not work in every
> application. You can also Command-click / right-click on the filename
> in the window's title bar to get the path.
>
> There are many, many "hidden" little features like that. :-)

One of my peeves with OS X is hidden things.  Not trivial stuff, but 
things they go out of their way to hide.  Example: hidden "DEVICEs" in 
Finder unless you happen to pass the mouse cursor over the "Show" button 
(which is hidden until then...).

Bad interface design - it should lead users to things not to usenet to 
ask noob questions.

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#58437

On 2014.04.09, 14:06 , dorayme wrote:
> A tip I heard a while ago: you can move an open file by dragging the
> little icon in the title bar (the grey strip at the top where the
> yellow, red and green buttons reside) wherever you want. This combined
> with spring-loading (the way disks and folders open to reveal inner
> files and folders on mouse hover), makes it easy. Beats having to find
> the path in other ways and going to original location and moving it.

Good tip.

Note that in Preview it creates a shortcut, it doesn't move or copy the 
actual file.

Likewise, Adobe pdf viewer, it's a shortcut that is created.

Probably others...

-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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#58454

On 4/9/14, 9:01 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2014.04.09, 14:06 , dorayme wrote:
>> A tip I heard a while ago: you can move an open file by dragging the
>> little icon in the title bar (the grey strip at the top where the
>> yellow, red and green buttons reside) wherever you want. This combined
>> with spring-loading (the way disks and folders open to reveal inner
>> files and folders on mouse hover), makes it easy. Beats having to find
>> the path in other ways and going to original location and moving it.
>
> Good tip.
>
> Note that in Preview it creates a shortcut, it doesn't move or copy the
> actual file.
>
> Likewise, Adobe pdf viewer, it's a shortcut that is created.
>
> Probably others...
>
It's peculiar.  I used it to make an Desktop alias of a WP document. 
Get Info said the alias was a file 100 times bigger than the document. 
Get Info also said I could change the original.  I changed it to an app. 
  The icon still said it was for the WP document.  Get Info said the 
alias was now a smaller file, a fraction of the size of the app which 
Get Info now said was the original.

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#58461

On 2014.04.10, 09:17 , J Burns wrote:
> On 4/9/14, 9:01 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2014.04.09, 14:06 , dorayme wrote:
>>> A tip I heard a while ago: you can move an open file by dragging the
>>> little icon in the title bar (the grey strip at the top where the
>>> yellow, red and green buttons reside) wherever you want. This combined
>>> with spring-loading (the way disks and folders open to reveal inner
>>> files and folders on mouse hover), makes it easy. Beats having to find
>>> the path in other ways and going to original location and moving it.
>>
>> Good tip.
>>
>> Note that in Preview it creates a shortcut, it doesn't move or copy the
>> actual file.
>>
>> Likewise, Adobe pdf viewer, it's a shortcut that is created.
>>
>> Probably others...
>>
> It's peculiar.  I used it to make an Desktop alias of a WP document. Get
> Info said the alias was a file 100 times bigger than the document. Get
> Info also said I could change the original.  I changed it to an app.
>   The icon still said it was for the WP document.  Get Info said the
> alias was now a smaller file, a fraction of the size of the app which
> Get Info now said was the original.

Yowza.


-- 
"Big data can reduce anything to a single number,
  but you shouldn’t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude."
      -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07

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