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| Started by | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| First post | 2012-03-19 07:26 -0700 |
| Last post | 2012-03-19 20:58 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 184 — 16 participants |
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Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-19 07:26 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 15:14 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 15:31 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 15:51 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 15:53 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-03-20 12:19 +1200
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-19 20:50 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-03-20 16:14 +1200
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 23:28 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-20 17:16 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-21 12:18 +0100
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-20 12:24 +0100
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-20 19:33 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-20 17:50 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-21 07:46 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-21 09:42 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-21 09:23 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-21 12:25 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-22 17:56 +0100
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-22 11:16 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-22 14:41 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-22 13:56 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-22 19:37 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-22 17:09 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-22 23:06 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-22 22:36 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-23 00:35 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-22 22:33 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-23 09:10 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback-Sorry MS Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-23 09:41 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback-Sorry MS Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-23 18:58 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-23 14:54 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-23 15:06 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-23 18:57 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-24 08:43 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 11:16 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-24 10:17 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 20:19 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-24 19:42 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-24 18:44 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 20:24 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-24 21:56 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-24 10:06 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-24 14:00 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-23 23:04 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-22 21:34 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-23 00:43 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-23 04:51 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-23 09:23 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-23 17:30 +0100
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-23 19:04 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-24 00:21 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-23 22:56 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-24 08:52 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 11:18 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-24 10:00 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-24 13:54 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-24 19:47 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-25 08:58 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-25 06:23 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-25 14:10 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-24 15:09 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-22 23:02 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-23 00:44 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-23 09:13 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-23 22:48 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-24 08:46 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-24 12:03 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-24 12:43 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 11:08 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-24 12:47 +0100
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-22 16:20 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-21 09:13 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-21 12:23 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-21 16:04 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-21 19:30 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-21 20:53 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-21 22:28 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-22 08:01 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-22 08:13 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-21 08:44 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-21 12:29 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-21 15:26 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-21 16:45 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-21 14:34 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-21 19:05 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-22 14:16 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-22 14:34 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-22 14:25 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-23 09:02 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-23 10:44 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-23 14:05 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback News <News@Group.Name> - 2012-03-23 15:20 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-23 19:19 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-23 20:05 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 10:54 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-24 09:48 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback News <News@Group.Post> - 2012-03-24 12:53 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 20:15 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback News <News@Group.Post> - 2012-03-25 12:01 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-03-24 18:45 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-24 19:30 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-03-25 18:11 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) - 2012-03-26 00:10 +0000
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-25 17:39 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) - 2012-03-26 02:50 +0000
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-25 21:10 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-24 15:02 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-24 19:09 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-25 09:39 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-25 14:02 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback News <News@Group.Post> - 2012-03-24 12:42 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-03-23 15:52 -0600
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-23 19:24 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-23 20:04 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 10:43 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-03-24 11:22 -0600
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-24 15:16 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback News <News@Group.Post> - 2012-03-24 16:10 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-25 12:19 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-24 19:31 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-25 12:40 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-25 13:46 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-25 18:14 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) - 2012-03-26 00:13 +0000
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-26 17:44 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 20:20 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-25 09:33 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-25 07:45 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-03-25 13:07 -0600
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-24 19:02 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 20:26 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-24 21:59 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback News <News@Group.Post> - 2012-03-24 12:42 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-03-24 11:09 -0600
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-23 22:45 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-23 20:00 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-23 22:43 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 10:40 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-23 22:42 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-24 08:21 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-24 18:29 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-25 09:36 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-25 13:56 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> - 2012-03-21 11:08 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-20 20:34 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-21 07:49 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-21 09:25 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-21 11:02 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-21 09:20 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-21 16:02 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-21 14:24 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-03-21 16:38 -0600
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-21 16:59 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-22 16:32 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-23 14:16 +0100
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-21 19:11 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-21 18:49 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-22 00:45 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Steve Hix <sehix@NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> - 2012-03-21 23:09 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-22 07:51 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-22 08:28 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-22 16:28 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-22 10:10 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-21 19:09 -0500
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-21 08:23 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-22 16:34 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-22 13:45 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-20 12:21 +0100
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-03-20 08:12 +1200
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 16:49 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-19 19:37 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-19 16:56 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 17:08 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-19 17:22 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 17:46 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-19 14:54 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-19 18:17 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 19:00 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-19 19:23 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-19 19:26 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-19 17:55 -0700
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 22:14 -0400
Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-19 20:58 -0700
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2012-03-19 07:26 -0700 |
| Subject | Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback |
| Message-ID | <michelle-D54615.07262819032012@news.eternal-september.org> |
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304724404577291071289857802.ht ml?mod=djemalertTECH Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback By JESSICA E. VASCELLARO Apple Inc. AAPL +0.72% said Monday it would pay a dividend to shareholders and buy back up to $10 billion in stock, heeding calls for the technology heavyweight to deploy its massive cash pile. The Cupertino, Calif., company expects to initiate a quarterly dividend of $2.65 a share in its fiscal fourth quarter, which begins July 1. On a conference call Monday, Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook said that "these decisions will not close any doors for us," and that product innovation remained the company's priority. The move to pay a dividend amounts to a significant shift for a company that had regularly argued it needed its cash to secure component supplies for its gadgets. It also opens the company up to a new class of investor that only focuses on dividend-paying stocks. The dividend payout—about $10.60 annually—will cost the company some $9.88 billion a year and carries a yield of 1.81%, landing it short of fellow cash kings like Microsoft Corp. MSFT -0.74% and Intel Corp., INTC -0.54% whose respective dividend yields currently stand at 2.45% and 3.03%. However, the yield is in-line or above other tech companies, like Hewlett-Packard Co., HPQ -0.73% 2%; Cisco Systems Inc., CSCO -0.22% 1.6%; International Business Machines Corp., IBM -0.61% 1.5%; and Oracle Corp., ORCL -0.61% 0.8%. Technology companies are among the most cash flush in the corporate world, as they typically don't tie up as much money in plants, real estate, equipment and inventory as do manufacturers and retailers. Additionally, Apple's board authorized a $10 billion share repurchase beginning Sept. 30, the start of its fiscal 2013 year. The repurchase program is expected to be executed over three years. In the moves, Apple will use about $45 billion of its domestic cash over that period. As of the end of December, Apple's cash, cash equivalents and short-term and long-term marketable securities totaled roughly $97.6 billion, more than the market capitalizations of all but 52 publicly traded companies at the time. That was up from the $59.7 billion in cash that Apple had on its balance sheet the year before. As of Jan. 13, the company had 932.4 million shares outstanding. Apple's stock has risen sharply in recent months, in anticipation of a change in the company's approach, and as it has posted quarterly revenue and profit records on brisk iPhone and iPad sales. Apple shares were up 1.5% at $594 in early trading Monday. "We have used some of our cash to make great investments in our business through increased research and development, acquisitions, new retail store openings, strategic prepayments and capital expenditures in our supply chain, and building out our infrastructure," said Mr. Cook in a statement. "Even with these investments, we can maintain a war chest for strategic opportunities and have plenty of cash to run our business." Apple in Abundance Monday's announcement, by Mr. Cook and Chief Financial Officer Peter Oppenheimer, ends months of speculation. Since becoming CEO in August, Mr. Cook signaled he would consider more options for the cash stockpile than his predecessor, Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, who had been opposed to stock buybacks and dividends, according to people familiar with the matter. At Apple's annual shareholder meeting in February, Mr. Cook said the company had been thinking about its cash "very deeply," and is actively discussing strategies for managing it with the company's board. "It is a lot," he added. "It is more than we need to run the company." When asked about Apple's cash parked overseas, Mr. Oppenheimer said on the call the company had no current plans to repatriate. "We think that the current tax laws provide a considerable economic disincentive to U.S. companies that might otherwise repatriate the substantial amount of foreign cash that they have," he said. Apple's dividend joins a large number of cash-rich tech companies that have yielded to investor demand for dividends over the years, including Microsoft, Cisco and Oracle. While some have done so as their growth rates matured and opportunities for investment diminished, investors still expect Apple to grow quickly but want it to return cash to shareholders, because it is generating significantly more than it needs. —Mia Lamar contributed to this article. Write to Jessica E. Vascellaro at jessica.vascellaro@wsj.com Corrections & Amplifications An earlier version of the summary on this article incorrectly said it was Apple's first-ever dividend. Apple paid a dividend in 1995. -- If you always reach your goals, you set the bar too low. If you never reach your goals, you set the bar too high. -- Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2012-03-19 15:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4f678593$0$4786$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #22507 |
Michelle Steiner wrote: > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304724404577291071289857802.ht > ml?mod=djemalertTECH > > Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback I'm all for the dividend, but does a buyback really accomplish anything ? With the stock price so high, Apple would be buying a tiny proportion fo ts stock back and probably not make a dent in dilution. If they had a long term plan to spend that much money every year to buy back tock, then it would make sense. But as a once time thing, would this have any impact all all ?
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2012-03-19 15:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4f6789a0$0$1940$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #22513 |
Apple Conference Call on the above: http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/123pijhbsdfvohbafv19/event/index.html
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2012-03-19 15:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4f678e2b$0$9114$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #22513 |
Despite growing faster than other PC makers, the Mac only has 6% of the PC market. Tim Cook is getting better at being "cheerful" in presentations. His first presentation as CEO was for the iphone4s and had low "energy" in it. I was wondering if this was Cook's style, or if it was due to Cook knowing that Jobs was close to passing away. It appears to be the later case. Couple minutes ago, AAPL was at $596 , huge share volume. BTW, it is interesting that most of Apple's petty cash is locked up outside of the USA. Repatriating foreign cash would have costly tax implications. So today's announcement only touches US based cash.
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2012-03-19 15:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4f678ea0$0$9114$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #22516 |
BTW, the stated reason for the $10b buyback is to prevent dilution from share options given to employees. Looks like Apple employees are very well compensated ...
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| From | HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) |
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| Date | 2012-03-20 12:19 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <HelpfulHarry-2003121219010001@203-118-187-13.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz> |
| In reply to | #22516 |
In article <4f678e2b$0$9114$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > Despite growing faster than other PC makers, the Mac only has 6% of the > PC market. That 6% is still twice as big as it was only a few years ago and Window's PCs have a huge headstart ... BUT Apple isn't interested in chasing market share for the sake of it anyway. If they were, they could easily reduce the price of everything they sell (especially these days with the ever-growing cash surplus). > Tim Cook is getting better at being "cheerful" in presentations. > > His first presentation as CEO was for the iphone4s and had low "energy" > in it. I was wondering if this was Cook's style, or if it was due to > Cook knowing that Jobs was close to passing away. It appears to be the > later case. He would have known that Steve Jobs wouldn't be around too much longer, but he would also have known that he had an extremely tough act to follow. He's probably getting more comfortable in the role and no longer has Steve watching over his shoulder (whether that's a plus or a minus remains to be seen).
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2012-03-19 20:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <FOidnWg0S_3cSfrSnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #22531 |
On 2012-03-19 20:19 , Helpful Harry wrote:
> In article<4f678e2b$0$9114$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei
> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>> Despite growing faster than other PC makers, the Mac only has 6% of the
>> PC market.
>
> That 6% is still twice as big as it was only a few years ago and Window's
> PCs have a huge headstart ... BUT Apple isn't interested in chasing market
> share for the sake of it anyway. If they were, they could easily reduce
> the price of everything they sell (especially these days with the
> ever-growing cash surplus).
When you're in a position to make healthy margins, have great cash flow,
a pile of cash, you're #1 or #2 in phones/tablets there is no need to
buy market share.
Leave that to Amazon.
Converting people and businesses to Mac is not an easy sell. Change
does not go down well.
OTOH, the inclusion of iOS like gestures into the Mac OS X will make it
seem less foreign to people. I've brought a few people to the Mac side
and they're generally happy - except where their work computers remain PC.
>> Tim Cook is getting better at being "cheerful" in presentations.
>>
>> His first presentation as CEO was for the iphone4s and had low "energy"
>> in it. I was wondering if this was Cook's style, or if it was due to
>> Cook knowing that Jobs was close to passing away. It appears to be the
>> later case.
>
> He would have known that Steve Jobs wouldn't be around too much longer,
> but he would also have known that he had an extremely tough act to follow.
> He's probably getting more comfortable in the role and no longer has Steve
> watching over his shoulder (whether that's a plus or a minus remains to be
> seen).
It will be interesting to see how the Apple culture changes over the
next few years. Recall the Chinese curse.
--
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know."
-Samuel Clemens.
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| From | HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) |
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| Date | 2012-03-20 16:14 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <HelpfulHarry-2003121614340001@203-118-187-200.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz> |
| In reply to | #22532 |
In article <FOidnWg0S_3cSfrSnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2012-03-19 20:19 , Helpful Harry wrote: > > In article<4f678e2b$0$9114$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei > > <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > >> > >> Despite growing faster than other PC makers, the Mac only has 6% of the > >> PC market. > > > > That 6% is still twice as big as it was only a few years ago and Window's > > PCs have a huge headstart ... BUT Apple isn't interested in chasing market > > share for the sake of it anyway. If they were, they could easily reduce > > the price of everything they sell (especially these days with the > > ever-growing cash surplus). > > When you're in a position to make healthy margins, have great cash flow, > a pile of cash, you're #1 or #2 in phones/tablets there is no need to > buy market share. > > Leave that to Amazon. > > Converting people and businesses to Mac is not an easy sell. Change > does not go down well. > > OTOH, the inclusion of iOS like gestures into the Mac OS X will make it > seem less foreign to people. I've brought a few people to the Mac side > and they're generally happy - except where their work computers remain PC. The problem in the workplace is often the fools in the IT department not knowing anything about Macs or bean counters seeing nothing but dollar amounts, but there are a growing number of companies that are either switching completely or at least allowing the employee to decide which they want to ue. Of course there are some circumstances where it's not possible to use Macs due to custom software, Windows-only applications, etc. (e.g. no Mac version of AutoCAD until recently). Helpful Harry :o)
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2012-03-19 23:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4f67f96c$0$829$c3e8da3$9b4ff22a@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #22537 |
Helpful Harry wrote: > The problem in the workplace is often the fools in the IT department not > knowing anything about Macs or bean counters seeing nothing but dollar > amounts, In Tim Cook's announcement today, he did make a mention about a dedicated enterprise sales force being setup. This is an interesting development considering that in the last days of Jobs, Apple had all but abandonned the enterprise market.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2012-03-20 17:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <T5WdnU_fL5EFbvXSnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #22537 |
On 2012-03-20 00:14 , Helpful Harry wrote:
> The problem in the workplace is often the fools in the IT department not
> knowing anything about Macs or bean counters seeing nothing but dollar
> amounts, but there are a growing number of companies that are either
> switching completely or at least allowing the employee to decide which
> they want to ue. Of course there are some circumstances where it's not
> possible to use Macs due to custom software, Windows-only applications,
> etc. (e.g. no Mac version of AutoCAD until recently).
My comments were more about private use than company. Sure, Sally gets
a Mac at home, but she's still using the PC at work. (My SO is
sometimes frustrated with the different keystrokes/methods between her
work PC and her MBA for example - habits!)
Some companies are allowing employees to provide their own smartphone
and then pay them a stipend and monthly costs.
The cost saving case for Macs is very thin and the ROI long. As you
say, custom s/w would kill it in many co's (esp. in my industry), though
using Fusion or Parallels where needed could help - but then you're
maintaining 2 OS's where one does the job.
I don't think IT dept.'s learning Mac's is much of an issue. Most IT
dept's have to deal with Linux (servers) so it's not that much of a
stretch. They'd probably (with the right tools) find it easier to
manage Mac users - ironically even with MS Exchange Server).
The capital costs and disruption during the change over are the biggest
obstacles, IMO. OTOH, Macs could be phased in over several years in
many business office environments.
Those who have "desktop" computers to run Office could simply have them
replaced with Mac Minis to start with. Takes up a lot less room on the
desktop in any case. And delivers all the processing one would need in
office cases.
--
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
I said I didn't know."
-Samuel Clemens.
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| From | Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2012-03-21 12:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n1qo39-sn7.ln1@news.sture.ch> |
| In reply to | #22558 |
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:16:08 -0400, Alan Browne wrote: > Some companies are allowing employees to provide their own smartphone > and then pay them a stipend and monthly costs. > "BYOD: Bring your own device could spell end for work PC": <http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17017570> > > Those who have "desktop" computers to run Office could simply have them > replaced with Mac Minis to start with. Takes up a lot less room on the > desktop in any case. And delivers all the processing one would need in > office cases. My office has a pool of thin clients for use by the folks who only visit a few days a month. These are small Linux devices (think of something the size of a router) plus mouse, keyboard and monitor, which use Windows Terminal Services to connect to a server at HQ. -- Paul Sture
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| From | Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2012-03-20 12:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nv5m39-ob.ln1@news.sture.ch> |
| In reply to | #22537 |
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:14:34 +1200, Helpful Harry wrote: > Of course there are some circumstances where it's not possible to use > Macs due to custom software, Windows-only applications, etc. (e.g. no > Mac version of AutoCAD until recently). Both VMware and Parallels offer pretty seamless desktop integration for Windows apps running in a virtual machine. -- Paul Sture
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| From | George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-20 19:33 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <CB8E8BFB.83B93%ghost_topper@hotmail.com> |
| In reply to | #22516 |
On 3/19/12 2:51 PM, in article 4f678e2b$0$9114$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com, "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > Despite growing faster than other PC makers, the Mac only has 6% of the > PC market. > > Tim Cook is getting better at being "cheerful" in presentations. > > His first presentation as CEO was for the iphone4s and had low "energy" > in it. I was wondering if this was Cook's style, or if it was due to > Cook knowing that Jobs was close to passing away. It appears to be the > later case. > > Couple minutes ago, AAPL was at $596 , huge share volume. > > > BTW, it is interesting that most of Apple's petty cash is locked up > outside of the USA. Repatriating foreign cash would have costly tax > implications. So today's announcement only touches US based cash. > You can thank the current Resident for that. The same one that will tax the dividends that we are talking about at the same rate as ordinary income - even though you already paid taxes on you income once to *buy* the stock that pays the dividends. Much like double taxation with really NO representation. Makes sense, right?
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2012-03-20 17:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <michelle-1D51A2.17502720032012@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #22566 |
In article <CB8E8BFB.83B93%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote: > > BTW, it is interesting that most of Apple's petty cash is locked up > > outside of the USA. Repatriating foreign cash would have costly tax > > implications. So today's announcement only touches US based cash. > > You can thank the current Resident for that. yeah, right; that policy has been in effect through more GOP administrations than Democratic ones. > The same one that will tax the dividends that we are talking about at > the same rate as ordinary income Which is what it should be. Why should it be that the more money you make, the lower your tax rate should be? > even though you already paid taxes on you income once to *buy* the stock > that pays the dividends. You pay taxes on income that you use to buy goods that you pay sales tax on. -- Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.
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| From | George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-21 07:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <CB8F37F3.83C08%ghost_topper@hotmail.com> |
| In reply to | #22567 |
On 3/20/12 7:50 PM, in article michelle-1D51A2.17502720032012@news.eternal-september.org, "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > In article <CB8E8BFB.83B93%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, > George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>> BTW, it is interesting that most of Apple's petty cash is locked up >>> outside of the USA. Repatriating foreign cash would have costly tax >>> implications. So today's announcement only touches US based cash. >> >> You can thank the current Resident for that. > > yeah, right; that policy has been in effect through more GOP > administrations than Democratic ones. > Bush tax cuts at the beginning of the century reduced taxes on investments. Obama wants them to go away. When thy do the top rate of tax on long-term capital gainsmeaning any profits on shares or other assets held for more than a yearwould rise from 15% to 20%. On qualified dividends, it would rise from a maximum of 15% to your marginal income tax rate. >> The same one that will tax the dividends that we are talking about at >> the same rate as ordinary income > > Which is what it should be. Why should it be that the more money you make, > the lower your tax rate should be? > I'm not saying that. But what about the 48% who pay NO taxes. Is THAT fair? But that is another subject. >> even though you already paid taxes on you income once to *buy* the stock >> that pays the dividends. > > You pay taxes on income that you use to buy goods that you pay sales tax on. So investors, who are trying to provide for themselves in their old age and not be a burden to the public or children, should be taxed twice on their wages and earnings? OK, then tell me how "fair" it is to not credit anymore than $3000 loss on investments gone bad in a year. Tell that to the people who lost their ass to Madeoff and Stanford.
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| From | Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-21 09:42 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rbOdndQBLIwgR_TSnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #22583 |
In article <CB8F37F3.83C08%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I'm not saying that. But what about the 48% who pay NO taxes. Is THAT fair? > But that is another subject. > Or the 40% who get enough back in credits that they actually pay a NEGATIVE income tax rate (BTW: the lowest 20% still have a negative tax rate after including payroll taxes and the next lowest 20% pays a low single digit rate). -- People thought cybersex was a safe alternative, until patients started presenting with sexually acquired carpal tunnel syndrome.-Howard Berkowitz
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| From | Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> |
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| Date | 2012-03-21 09:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <timmcn-D95A70.09234621032012@news.iphouse.com> |
| In reply to | #22585 |
In article <rbOdndQBLIwgR_TSnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote: > In article <CB8F37F3.83C08%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, > George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I'm not saying that. But what about the 48% who pay NO taxes. Is THAT fair? > > But that is another subject. > > > Or the 40% who get enough back in credits that they actually pay a > NEGATIVE income tax rate (BTW: the lowest 20% still have a negative tax > rate after including payroll taxes and the next lowest 20% pays a low > single digit rate). Like GE, who paid a NEGATIVE $4,737,000,000 in taxes 2008-2010 while earning $10,460,000,000 in profits. Or PG&E, paying a NEGATIVE $1,027,000,000 in taxes 2008-2010 on $4,85,000,000 in profits. Or Verizon, paying NEGATIVE $951,000,000 in taxes 2008-2010 on $32,518,000,000 in profits. Or Wells Fargo, paying a NEGATIVE $681,000,000 in taxes 2008-2010 on $49,370,000 in profits. There are at least 24 more US corporations who not only paid $0 income tax, they got billions of unearned tax dollars back from the government. But don't forget, kiddies, our taxes are too high... Or Warren Buffet who pays a lower percentage of his income in taxes than his secretary does. Wait! Those guys are rich, so it's OK. But make sure you get all the tax dollars from one of their employees making $20,000 a year because *that's* fair (while their CEO makes $10,000,000 a year *and* the company pays his income taxes for him). -- And wackiness ensues...
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| From | Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2012-03-21 12:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <FZudnZv3hvdtnffSnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #22588 |
In article <timmcn-D95A70.09234621032012@news.iphouse.com>, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote: > Or Warren Buffet who pays a lower percentage of his income in taxes than > his secretary does. > > Wait! Those guys are rich, so it's OK. But make sure you get all the > tax dollars from one of their employees making $20,000 a year because > *that's* fair (while their CEO makes $10,000,000 a year *and* the > company pays his income taxes for him). Buffett is an outlier because of the way he has structured his pay. There are a couple other parts of his rantings that don't quite pass the smell test since he touts a couple of his top execs pay a higher rate in taxes than the highest statutory rates. -- People thought cybersex was a safe alternative, until patients started presenting with sexually acquired carpal tunnel syndrome.-Howard Berkowitz
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| From | Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2012-03-22 17:56 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <f72s39-7qg.ln1@news.sture.ch> |
| In reply to | #22588 |
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:23:47 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: > Or Warren Buffet who pays a lower percentage of his income in taxes than > his secretary does. Warren Buffet himself pointed that one out and is, I gather, a supporter of more taxes for the rich. -- Paul Sture
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2012-03-22 11:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <michelle-EACA8F.11163322032012@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #22636 |
In article <f72s39-7qg.ln1@news.sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> wrote: > > Or Warren Buffet who pays a lower percentage of his income in taxes > > than his secretary does. > > Warren Buffet himself pointed that one out and is, I gather, a supporter > of more taxes for the rich. You gather correctly. -- Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.
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