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Grammar Gripe

Started bySalmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net>
First post2013-12-21 11:21 -0800
Last post2013-12-28 18:55 +1300
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  Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-21 11:21 -0800
    Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-21 21:09 +0000
      Re: Grammar Gripe Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-21 13:15 -0800
      Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-21 13:41 -0800
        Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-21 13:54 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-22 11:21 +1300
            Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-21 18:36 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-22 16:45 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-22 23:35 +0000
              Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 00:44 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-23 23:47 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-22 21:58 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-23 09:13 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-24 16:45 -0800
            Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-22 23:38 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-22 21:58 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-23 19:09 +1300
                  Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-23 09:05 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-23 18:58 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-24 14:06 +1300
                      Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-23 18:36 -0800
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-24 18:14 +1300
                          Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 07:56 -0800
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 09:14 +1300
                              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:19 -0800
                                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-24 17:45 -0500
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2013-12-25 01:43 -0800
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-25 08:58 -0800
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 00:29 -0500
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-24 18:51 +1300
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 00:59 -0500
                              Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-24 19:14 +1300
                              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 07:59 -0800
                                Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 12:07 -0800
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 09:36 +1300
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 12:52 -0800
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-24 16:31 -0500
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-24 17:11 -0500
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:49 -0800
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-24 23:56 +0000
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:15 -0800
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 16:59 -0800
                                          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:22 +1300
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe "Ed H." <fake@notreal.net> - 2013-12-27 13:30 -0600
                                Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-12-24 22:02 +0000
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:20 -0800
                          Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 07:58 -0800
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-24 12:47 -0500
                              Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-24 13:09 -0500
                                Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 12:09 -0800
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 12:18 -0800
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 09:38 +1300
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-24 17:18 -0500
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:52 -0800
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-24 18:44 -0500
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 17:03 -0800
                                          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:24 +1300
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-24 23:05 -0500
                                          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:50 +1300
                                            Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-25 13:28 -0500
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 15:52 -0800
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 13:54 +1300
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 17:10 -0800
                                          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:26 +1300
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-12-25 04:34 +0000
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:52 +1300
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 21:34 -0800
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-24 15:16 -0500
                                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:11 -0800
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-26 19:00 -0800
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-27 08:20 -0500
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-27 10:48 -0800
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-27 18:52 -0500
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-28 10:20 -0500
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:50 -0800
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-28 09:27 -0800
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:51 -0800
                                          Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-28 13:07 -0800
                                            Re: Semantics Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-29 18:17 +0100
                                              Re: Semantics Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-29 12:34 -0500
                                                Re: Semantics Gripe Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2013-12-29 14:53 -0800
                                              Re: Semantics Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-29 10:56 -0800
                                                Re: Semantics Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-29 21:55 +0100
                              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 14:04 -0800
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-26 16:28 -0500
                          Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-24 18:22 -0500
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-25 00:02 +0000
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 13:15 +1300
                              Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-26 23:30 -0500
                                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-27 10:51 -0800
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-27 18:36 -0500
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-27 21:08 -0800
                      Re: Grammar Gripe "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-12-24 18:03 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-01-01 17:55 +1100
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-01 11:41 -0700
                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-01 11:29 -0800
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-02 09:10 +1300
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-01 13:49 -0700
                        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-01 15:38 -0800
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-02 13:16 +1300
                            Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-01 17:31 -0800
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-02 09:10 +0000
                            Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-02 11:47 -0800
                              Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-02 22:17 +0000
                                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-02 15:29 -0800
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-02 18:33 -0800
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-01 13:46 -0700
                        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-01 15:41 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-23 23:42 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 08:03 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe bob <rcp27g@gmail.com> - 2013-12-22 10:49 +0000
            Re: Grammar Gripe "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2013-12-22 16:54 +0000
            Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2013-12-26 10:37 +1100
              Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-26 18:32 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-26 05:36 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-26 09:30 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-31 18:35 +1300
          Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2013-12-23 10:59 +1100
        Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-22 11:34 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 00:45 -0500
      Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-22 04:58 +0000
    Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-21 20:11 -0500
    Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-12-22 15:43 +0000
      Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-22 11:53 -0500
        Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-22 22:35 +0000
          Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-22 18:08 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-23 09:07 +0000
              Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-23 04:12 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-23 15:15 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-23 15:39 +0000
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-23 18:46 +0000
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 21:03 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-24 04:52 -0500
          Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-22 22:02 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 01:04 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-23 19:41 +1300
            Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-23 11:27 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-23 09:55 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-23 13:33 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 21:05 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 21:04 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-23 18:40 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 22:19 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2013-12-24 10:15 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 08:01 -0800
        Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-22 15:10 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-22 18:23 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-22 15:29 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 00:49 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-23 02:35 -0500
    Re: Grammar Gripe Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-22 10:32 -0600
      Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-22 12:36 -0500
      Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-22 11:40 -0800
        Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-22 16:06 -0500
          Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-22 15:18 -0800
            Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-22 23:41 +0000
              Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-23 09:26 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-23 18:47 +0000
            Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-23 23:39 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 00:46 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-24 19:10 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-25 04:34 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-25 14:17 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-25 18:36 -0800
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-26 01:18 -0500
                      Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-26 07:59 -0500
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-26 05:41 -0800
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-26 09:53 -0500
                            Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-26 21:27 -0500
                              Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-27 02:06 -0500
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Joe W DiDomenico <joedid@outlook.com> - 2013-12-27 08:03 -0500
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-27 10:43 -0800
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-26 19:16 -0800
                              Re: Grammar Gripe Joe W DiDomenico <joedid@outlook.com> - 2013-12-27 08:04 -0500
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 20:00 +1000
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-04-19 10:42 -0700
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-26 09:52 -0500
                          Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-26 10:44 -0500
                            Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-26 10:00 -0800
                              Re: Grammar Gripe henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2013-12-27 13:22 +0200
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-27 10:18 -0500
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-12-27 15:57 +0000
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2013-12-27 18:34 +0200
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-27 12:43 -0500
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-28 14:41 -0800
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 11:00 -0500
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 10:57 -0500
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-28 09:11 -0800
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-28 14:18 -0500
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Joe Di Domenico <joedid@email.com> - 2013-12-28 14:46 -0500
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2013-12-31 11:54 +0200
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 10:47 -0800
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-31 14:13 -0500
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 20:04 +1000
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-19 15:55 -0400
                                          Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-19 21:20 +0100
                                            Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-19 17:21 -0400
                                              Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-04-19 17:22 -0700
                                                Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-04-20 03:16 +0000
                                                  Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-20 00:00 -0400
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-19 08:40 -0400
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-04-19 10:54 -0400
                              Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 20:02 +1000
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-19 08:34 -0400
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe billy@MIX.COM - 2014-04-19 15:09 +0000
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-20 08:51 +1000
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-04-19 22:37 -0400
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-20 12:36 +0200
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-04-20 07:03 -0700
                                        Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-20 17:33 +0200
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> - 2014-04-21 07:57 -0400
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-20 03:23 +0200
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-04-20 03:11 +0000
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-27 09:35 -0400
                                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-19 15:51 -0400
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-26 15:56 -0500
                              Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-26 17:07 -0500
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-27 12:05 +1300
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-27 21:52 -0800
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Joe W DiDomenico <joedid@outlook.com> - 2013-12-28 09:48 -0500
                              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:47 -0800
                        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-26 09:48 -0800
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-27 09:38 +1300
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 19:59 +1000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 19:58 +1000
              Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-23 22:18 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 04:06 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-12-24 14:19 +0000
                    Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-24 10:17 -0500
                      Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-24 08:03 -0800
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-24 13:14 -0500
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-24 20:01 +0000
                        Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-24 15:19 -0500
                      Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 12:14 -0800
                        Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-24 16:05 -0500
                          Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 15:55 -0800
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 13:07 +1300
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 17:08 -0800
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 17:25 +1300
                          Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-28 14:46 -0800
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 09:11 +1300
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 20:54 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-24 13:00 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 10:21 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-24 12:12 -0800
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-25 09:40 +1300
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 13:37 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-25 04:42 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-24 16:20 +0000
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-24 09:49 -0800
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-24 19:59 +0000
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-24 15:38 -0600
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-24 21:04 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-12-24 20:03 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-25 10:53 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-25 11:17 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-19 19:55 +1000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-19 13:42 +0000
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-04-19 06:52 -0700
                  Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-04-20 09:24 +1000
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-04-19 22:35 -0400
                    Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-19 23:56 -0400
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-04-19 21:02 -0700
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-04-19 21:16 -0700
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-20 13:43 +0100
            Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2013-12-28 16:34 +1100
              Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-28 18:39 +1300
              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:45 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-28 14:57 -0800
        Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-22 23:36 +0100
          Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-22 22:54 +0000
            Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-23 03:20 +0100
              Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-22 22:07 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-23 09:56 +0100
                  Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-23 04:10 -0500
      Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-22 11:45 -0800
      Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-22 23:38 +0000
      Re: Grammar Gripe Wes Groleau <Usenet@Grolea.us> - 2013-12-23 00:50 -0500
      Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2013-12-28 16:24 +1100
        Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-28 08:55 +0000
          Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-28 04:27 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-28 10:09 +0000
              Re: Grammar Gripe Joe W DiDomenico <joedid@outlook.com> - 2013-12-28 09:39 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:37 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-29 08:18 +1100
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-28 22:36 +0000
                    Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-29 15:07 +1100
                Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-28 17:27 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 04:24 +0000
                    Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-30 17:34 +1100
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-30 10:04 +0100
                      Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 10:31 -0500
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-30 19:25 +0100
                          Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 13:56 -0500
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 11:48 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-01-02 15:10 +0000
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-01-03 01:21 +0000
                      Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-02 21:21 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:34 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-28 22:17 +1100
          Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 11:06 -0500
            Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-28 09:15 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-29 09:42 +1300
              Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 16:08 -0500
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-28 14:01 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 17:49 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-28 18:04 -0500
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 19:06 -0500
                        Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-28 22:17 -0500
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 22:38 -0500
                            Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-29 01:12 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 21:41 -0800
              Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 04:27 +0000
                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 00:51 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-30 01:54 -0800
                    Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 11:57 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2013-12-30 07:39 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-30 08:55 -0700
                    Re: Grammar Gripe JoeWolfDee <joedid@email.com> - 2013-12-30 11:13 -0500
                      Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-30 17:11 -0500
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-30 18:29 -0700
                          Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-30 17:32 -0800
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-31 15:56 +1300
                              Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-30 21:32 -0700
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 20:44 -0800
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-31 18:25 +1300
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 22:41 -0800
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 10:41 -0800
                                Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-31 15:27 +0000
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-31 14:42 -0700
                              Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-31 02:33 -0500
                                Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 10:42 -0800
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-01 09:50 +1300
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-31 14:24 -0700
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 14:51 -0800
                                    Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-31 17:09 -0800
                                      Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-01 09:34 +0000
                                  Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-10 18:16 -0800
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-31 13:04 +0100
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2013-12-31 03:03 +0000
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 20:44 -0800
                          Re: Grammar Gripe John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-10 18:20 -0800
                            Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-11 16:17 +1300
                        Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-31 18:29 +1300
                        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 10:46 -0800
                          Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-31 14:31 -0500
                            Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 12:42 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-30 09:27 -0800
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-30 19:29 +0100
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 11:52 -0800
                        Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-30 16:12 -0800
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 17:53 +0000
            Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-29 08:01 +1100
        Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-28 05:31 -0500
          Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 10:39 -0800
            Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-28 14:38 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 12:55 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-29 10:28 +1300
                Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 17:59 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-12-28 18:58 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-28 23:26 -0500
                    Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-28 21:46 -0800
                      Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-29 01:21 -0500
        Re: Grammar Gripe Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-12-28 09:23 -0800
          Re: Grammar Gripe dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2013-12-29 08:44 +1100
        Re: Grammar Gripe Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-12-30 04:22 +0000
          Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-29 21:13 -0800
            Re: Grammar Gripe Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-12-30 00:21 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-29 22:44 -0700
              Re: Grammar Gripe Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2013-12-29 21:49 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-30 09:26 +0000
            Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 12:14 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-30 09:23 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 12:51 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-30 16:11 -0800
                    Re: Grammar Gripe J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2013-12-30 21:13 -0500
              Re: Grammar Gripe Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-12-30 11:54 -0800
                Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-30 17:26 -0500
                  Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-30 22:41 +0000
                    Re: Grammar Gripe JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-12-30 18:11 -0500
                      Re: Grammar Gripe Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-12-30 23:25 +0000
          Re: Grammar Gripe Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-29 22:37 -0700
            Re: Uniqueness Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-31 13:21 +0100
              Re: Uniqueness gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 10:52 -0800
              Re: Uniqueness Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-12-31 14:47 -0700
                Re: Uniqueness gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-12-31 14:55 -0800
                Re: Uniqueness Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2014-01-01 00:32 +0100
    Re: Grammar Gripe Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2013-12-22 23:33 +0100
    Re: Grammar Gripe Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2013-12-23 10:57 +1100
    Re: Grammar Gripe bob <rcp27g@gmail.com> - 2013-12-23 00:00 +0000
    Re: Grammar Gripe RonTheGuy@null.invalid (Ron) - 2013-12-27 21:36 -0800
      Re: Grammar Gripe Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-12-28 18:55 +1300

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#54000

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2013-12-28 23:26 -0500
Message-ID<281220132326152069%star@sky.net>
In reply to#53987
J Burns:
> > > > Really!  "Very" came into English meaning "real."

Davoud:
> > But not surprising, given that "very" is from a Latin root meaning
> > "true." See "verity," "verify," and related words. In my mind, "very"
> > and "truly" are often interchangeable, as in "very large" and "truly
> > large."

Barry Margolin:
> Yes, because we should obviously use all words with the sense they had 
> 2,000 years ago.

Tut tut! That's a bit melodramatic, and a distortion of the meaning my
post, which I think is not at all obscure, that "very" is today--not
2000 years ago, but today--sometimes interchangeable with "really" or
"truly."

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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#54002

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2013-12-28 21:46 -0800
Message-ID<2013122821463691837-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#53987
On 2013-12-28 23:58:21 +0000, Barry Margolin said:

> In article <281220131759278981%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> J Burns:
>>>> Really!  "Very" came into English meaning "real."
>> 
>> gtr:
>>> That's really very quite interesting.
>> 
>> But not surprising, given that "very" is from a Latin root meaning
>> "true." See "verity," "verify," and related words. In my mind, "very"
>> and "truly" are often interchangeable, as in "very large" and "truly
>> large."
> 
> Yes, because we should obviously use all words with the sense they had
> 2,000 years ago.
> 
> Actually, isn't the belief that "immaculate conception" refers to virgin
> birth based on just such a use?

Recently noted from the British Medical Journal survey; 1 out of 5 
women claim their pregnancy took place while they were virgins. That's 
a very high number of virgin births!

It also reports that recontacting participants a number of years after 
the initial study indicated that many women who were not virgins in the 
first survey, after a number of years, became virgins!

Virginity is a more flexible and malleable concept that we had 
previously understood.

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#54004

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2013-12-29 01:21 -0500
Message-ID<52bfbf71$0$12533$c3e8da3$69010069@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#54002
On 13-12-29 00:46, gtr wrote:

> Recently noted from the British Medical Journal survey; 1 out of 5 
> women claim their pregnancy took place while they were virgins. That's 
> a very high number of virgin births!

Yeah, that is very common. British men wank on buses, leave their semen
on bus seats and women become pregnant when they sit on those seats. :-)

> It also reports that recontacting participants a number of years after 
> the initial study indicated that many women who were not virgins in the 
> first survey, after a number of years, became virgins!

This happened to Madonna in the 1980s, she even wrote a song about it.

https://itunes.apple.com/ca/album/like-a-virgin/id80815235?i=80815215


> Virginity is a more flexible and malleable concept that we had 
> previously understood.

If a lady doesn't remember her boyfriend penetrating and thrusting in
her, what does it say about the boyfriend's abilities ?

Seriously though, with various drugs, it is quite possible a lady
wouldn't remember having had sex with a guy once she wakes up the next
morning and the drugs have stopped blanking her mind.

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#53947

FromPaul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net>
Date2013-12-28 09:23 -0800
Message-ID<j4qdnRPIm7ONlCLPnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#53923
Barry OGrady wrote:

> Very annoying is "very unique" which is impossible since unique means
> one only.

I've never been entirely convinced of that:

A is unique because she is the only person to have characteristic X.

B is unique because she is the only person to have characteristic Y, and 
also because she is the only person to have characteristic Z.

Is B not then more unique than A?

Paul Magnussen

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#53971

Fromdorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
Date2013-12-29 08:44 +1100
Message-ID<do_ray_me-A292F8.08444329122013@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#53947
In article <j4qdnRPIm7ONlCLPnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Barry OGrady wrote:
> 
> > Very annoying is "very unique" which is impossible since unique means
> > one only.
> 
> I've never been entirely convinced of that:
> 
> A is unique because she is the only person to have characteristic X.
> 
> B is unique because she is the only person to have characteristic Y, and 
> also because she is the only person to have characteristic Z.
> 
> Is B not then more unique than A?

The grammar boys will tell you no, A and B are unique in respect to 
different things, that unique just means one of a kind. Your B is not 
*more* than one of a kind. 

But I think you are perfectly right, it communicates a point...

-- 
dorayme

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#54028

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2013-12-30 04:22 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlc1t8o.c4g.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#53923
In message <i1osb9h9is48b179l8bnp28svninqongt9@4ax.com> 
  Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 10:32:55 -0600, Matthew Lybanon
> <lybanon@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>In article <SalmonEgg-865C82.11210121122013@news80.forteinc.com>,
>> Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I have observed, on this group and many others, that sentences are used 
>>> without a subject. After reading them a time or two, I realize that in 
>>> most situations but not all, merely adding "I " would correct the 
>>> grammar.
>>
>>People are bombarded by bad grammar and other barbarisms constantly.  
>>When did "gift" become a verb?  And the people who produce television 
>>commercials don't know (or don't care) the difference between "every 
>>day" and "everyday" (and television shows are "all new").  But the most 
>>annoying (to me) example is "look-a-like."

> Very annoying is "very unique" which is impossible since unique means
> one only. 

Sure, but there are degrees of unique. Every single person is unique,
every snowflake is unique, but a person who is 8 feet tall and has
purple skin with yellow dots could be described as very unique, as could
an eight pointed snowflake the size of your hand. Somehow, despite every
person/snowflake being unique, these examples are *more* unique.

That said, I agree that [modifier] unique is damn annoying.

-- 
Rick: And remember, this gun is pointed right at your heart.  Captain
Renault: That is my *least* vulnerable spot

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#54035

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2013-12-29 21:13 -0800
Message-ID<2013122921132247359-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#54028
On 2013-12-30 04:22:40 +0000, Lewis said:

> In message <i1osb9h9is48b179l8bnp28svninqongt9@4ax.com>
>   Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 10:32:55 -0600, Matthew Lybanon
>> <lybanon@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>>> In article <SalmonEgg-865C82.11210121122013@news80.forteinc.com>,
>>> Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have observed, on this group and many others, that sentences are used
>>>> without a subject. After reading them a time or two, I realize that in
>>>> most situations but not all, merely adding "I " would correct the
>>>> grammar.
>>> 
>>> People are bombarded by bad grammar and other barbarisms constantly.
>>> When did "gift" become a verb?  And the people who produce television
>>> commercials don't know (or don't care) the difference between "every
>>> day" and "everyday" (and television shows are "all new").  But the most
>>> annoying (to me) example is "look-a-like."
> 
>> Very annoying is "very unique" which is impossible since unique means
>> one only.
> 
> Sure, but there are degrees of unique.

No there aren't, the definition of the word is quite simple.

> Every single person is unique, every snowflake is unique, but a person 
> who is 8 feet tall and has purple skin with yellow dots could be 
> described as very unique,

If you use "more different" or "more unusual" you say the same thing 
without bending the wrong word to your task.

You can use the word anyway you like of course, but it doesn't make the 
word appropriate for the usage. "This is more 'one of a kind' than 
that" makes no conceptual sense. In common usage, and it sure has 
become common, "unique" has come to mean "different".  Word's change, 
and this one is well on its way.  But at this point in time it's still 
considered a corruption of its meaning.

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#54037

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2013-12-30 00:21 -0500
Message-ID<301220130021068250%star@sky.net>
In reply to#54035
Lewis:
> > ...every snowflake is unique...

Bzzzzzt!
<http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2010/12/03/scientists-discover-snowflake-ide
ntical-to-one-which-fell-in-1963/>. This is not the only instance in
which identical snowflakes have been observed. Given the myriad
snowflakes that have fallen in the history of the Earth, and the laws
of probability, it has to be that there have been uncountable identical
snowflakes.

-- 
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you will say in your entire life.

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#54043

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2013-12-29 22:44 -0700
Message-ID<291220132244345582%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#54037
In article <301220130021068250%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
wrote:

> Lewis:
> > > ...every snowflake is unique...
> 
> Bzzzzzt!
> <http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2010/12/03/scientists-discover-snowflake-ide
> ntical-to-one-which-fell-in-1963/>. This is not the only instance in
> which identical snowflakes have been observed. Given the myriad
> snowflakes that have fallen in the history of the Earth, and the laws
> of probability, it has to be that there have been uncountable identical
> snowflakes.

That is not a reliable source, but this one appears to be:

<http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/263168>

1n 1988, Nancy Knight was documenting snowflakes for the National
Center for Atmospheric Research and found two identical snowflakes of
the hollow column type. But Kenneth Libbrecht, Caltech physics
professor and snowflake expert said they may appear alike but under the
atomic level, you¹ll find them entirely different. Their water molecule
numbers and layouts of the molecules will be different. (most water
molecules contain an oxygen atom of Oxygen-16, but one molecule in
every 500 has an Oxygen-18).

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#54045

FromMichael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Date2013-12-29 21:49 -0800
Message-ID<vilain-3F567A.21493529122013@news.individual.net>
In reply to#54037
In article <301220130021068250%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
wrote:

> Lewis:
> > > ...every snowflake is unique...
> 
> Bzzzzzt!
> <http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2010/12/03/scientists-discover-snowflake-ide
> ntical-to-one-which-fell-in-1963/>. This is not the only instance in
> which identical snowflakes have been observed. Given the myriad
> snowflakes that have fallen in the history of the Earth, and the laws
> of probability, it has to be that there have been uncountable identical
> snowflakes.

Well, if you take into account the O16-O18 ratios and the fact that each 
snowflake is about 3mg, it all depends on how pedantic you wanna get. 
You never said the crystals were all unique, just the snowflake itself.

Each snowflake has about 1x10e20 molecules of water (assuming 100% pure 
water). For each to be unique, they only need one part in 1x10e20.  In 
terms of the crystals themselves, the same can be duplicated with 
identical temperature and humidity, but chemically, the article you 
quote didn't say they were chemically identical and at what confidence 
level.

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/JudyMoy.shtml

-- 
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#54049

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2013-12-30 09:26 +0000
Message-ID<301220130926124419%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#54045
In article <vilain-3F567A.21493529122013@news.individual.net>, Michael
Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> In article <301220130021068250%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Lewis:
> > > > ...every snowflake is unique...
> > 
> > Bzzzzzt!
> > <http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2010/12/03/scientists-discover-snowflake-ide
> > ntical-to-one-which-fell-in-1963/>. This is not the only instance in
> > which identical snowflakes have been observed. Given the myriad
> > snowflakes that have fallen in the history of the Earth, and the laws
> > of probability, it has to be that there have been uncountable identical
> > snowflakes.
> 
> Well, if you take into account the O16-O18 ratios and the fact that each 
> snowflake is about 3mg, it all depends on how pedantic you wanna get. 
> You never said the crystals were all unique, just the snowflake itself.
> 
> Each snowflake has about 1x10e20 molecules of water (assuming 100% pure 
> water). For each to be unique, they only need one part in 1x10e20.  In 
> terms of the crystals themselves, the same can be duplicated with 
> identical temperature and humidity, but chemically, the article you 
> quote didn't say they were chemically identical and at what confidence 
> level.
> 
> http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/JudyMoy.shtml


But were they isotopically identical? Eh? Eh?

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#54063

FromJ Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
Date2013-12-30 12:14 -0500
Message-ID<l9s9lb$plt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#54035
On 12/30/13, 12:13 AM, gtr wrote:
>
>>
>>> Very annoying is "very unique" which is impossible since unique means
>>> one only.
>>
>> Sure, but there are degrees of unique.
>
> No there aren't, the definition of the word is quite simple.
>

Yes, but "very" can mean "without qualification," regardless of degree. 
  One can say every snowflake is unique, but it's debatable.  If a 
six-pounder hit me on the head, I'd tell the doctor in the emergency 
room it was a very unique snowflake.

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#54065

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2013-12-30 09:23 -0800
Message-ID<2013123009233017861-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#54063
On 2013-12-30 17:14:16 +0000, J Burns said:

> On 12/30/13, 12:13 AM, gtr wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>> Very annoying is "very unique" which is impossible since unique means
>>>> one only.
>>> 
>>> Sure, but there are degrees of unique.
>> 
>> No there aren't, the definition of the word is quite simple.
>> 
> 
> Yes, but "very" can mean "without qualification," regardless of degree. 
>   One can say every snowflake is unique, but it's debatable.  If a 
> six-pounder hit me on the head, I'd tell the doctor in the emergency 
> room it was a very unique snowflake.

I think a more logical descriptor under those circumstances would be 
"heavy". But "different" "exotic" "incomparable" and many other round 
words fit a round hole much better.  Certainly there's no law against 
jamming a square word in there with some trimming and misusage, 
followed by additional explanation. Hardly seems worth the effort.

I think you're arguing for the concept that the word can mean something 
that it doesn't. Sure it can--if you get your meaning across.  "Red", 
"onion-flavored" or "wicked" would work just as well *IF* you got your 
meaning across.

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#54069

FromJ Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
Date2013-12-30 12:51 -0500
Message-ID<l9sbq7$8tb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#54065
On 12/30/13, 12:23 PM, gtr wrote:
> On 2013-12-30 17:14:16 +0000, J Burns said:
>
>> On 12/30/13, 12:13 AM, gtr wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Very annoying is "very unique" which is impossible since unique means
>>>>> one only.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, but there are degrees of unique.
>>>
>>> No there aren't, the definition of the word is quite simple.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, but "very" can mean "without qualification," regardless of
>> degree.   One can say every snowflake is unique, but it's debatable.
>> If a six-pounder hit me on the head, I'd tell the doctor in the
>> emergency room it was a very unique snowflake.
>
> I think a more logical descriptor under those circumstances would be
> "heavy". But "different" "exotic" "incomparable" and many other round
> words fit a round hole much better.  Certainly there's no law against
> jamming a square word in there with some trimming and misusage, followed
> by additional explanation. Hardly seems worth the effort.
>
> I think you're arguing for the concept that the word can mean something
> that it doesn't. Sure it can--if you get your meaning across.  "Red",
> "onion-flavored" or "wicked" would work just as well *IF* you got your
> meaning across.
>
>
Which word do you mean: "very" or "unique?"

If I called the snowflake heavy, different, exotic, or incomparable, I'd 
still say "very."  "Truly" is a common, basic meaning of "very."  It has 
meant that since the mid-13th Century.  The first known use of the word 
to mean "extremely" occurred two centuries later.

I find it annoying when people say, "extremely unique!"

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#54096

Fromgtr <xxx@yyy.zzz>
Date2013-12-30 16:11 -0800
Message-ID<2013123016113744868-xxx@yyyzzz>
In reply to#54069
On 2013-12-30 17:51:02 +0000, J Burns said:

> On 12/30/13, 12:23 PM, gtr wrote:
>> On 2013-12-30 17:14:16 +0000, J Burns said:
>> 
>>> On 12/30/13, 12:13 AM, gtr wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Very annoying is "very unique" which is impossible since unique means
>>>>>> one only.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sure, but there are degrees of unique.
>>>> 
>>>> No there aren't, the definition of the word is quite simple.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, but "very" can mean "without qualification," regardless of
>>> degree.   One can say every snowflake is unique, but it's debatable.
>>> If a six-pounder hit me on the head, I'd tell the doctor in the
>>> emergency room it was a very unique snowflake.
>> 
>> I think a more logical descriptor under those circumstances would be
>> "heavy". But "different" "exotic" "incomparable" and many other round
>> words fit a round hole much better.  Certainly there's no law against
>> jamming a square word in there with some trimming and misusage, followed
>> by additional explanation. Hardly seems worth the effort.
>> 
>> I think you're arguing for the concept that the word can mean something
>> that it doesn't. Sure it can--if you get your meaning across.  "Red",
>> "onion-flavored" or "wicked" would work just as well *IF* you got your
>> meaning across.
>> 
>> 
> Which word do you mean: "very" or "unique?"

Unique, of course.

> If I called the snowflake heavy, different, exotic, or incomparable, 
> I'd still say "very."  "Truly" is a common, basic meaning of "very."

Yes. Good.  Carry on.

> It has meant that since the mid-13th Century.  The first known use of 
> the word to mean "extremely" occurred two centuries later.
> 
> I find it annoying when people say, "extremely unique!"

Right. One of the best reasons to avoid degress of uniqueness, is that 
at least part of tht time sone one will point out that you're using the 
word wrong. That in itself is a good reason to mususe it--it takes up 
too much time!

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#54101

FromJ Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
Date2013-12-30 21:13 -0500
Message-ID<l9t991$qtp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#54096
On 12/30/13, 7:11 PM, gtr wrote:
> On 2013-12-30 17:51:02 +0000, J Burns said:
>
>> On 12/30/13, 12:23 PM, gtr wrote:
>>> On 2013-12-30 17:14:16 +0000, J Burns said:
>>>
>>>> On 12/30/13, 12:13 AM, gtr wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very annoying is "very unique" which is impossible since unique
>>>>>>> means
>>>>>>> one only.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, but there are degrees of unique.
>>>>>
>>>>> No there aren't, the definition of the word is quite simple.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but "very" can mean "without qualification," regardless of
>>>> degree.   One can say every snowflake is unique, but it's debatable.
>>>> If a six-pounder hit me on the head, I'd tell the doctor in the
>>>> emergency room it was a very unique snowflake.
>>>
>>> I think a more logical descriptor under those circumstances would be
>>> "heavy". But "different" "exotic" "incomparable" and many other round
>>> words fit a round hole much better.  Certainly there's no law against
>>> jamming a square word in there with some trimming and misusage, followed
>>> by additional explanation. Hardly seems worth the effort.
>>>
>>> I think you're arguing for the concept that the word can mean something
>>> that it doesn't. Sure it can--if you get your meaning across.  "Red",
>>> "onion-flavored" or "wicked" would work just as well *IF* you got your
>>> meaning across.
>>>
>>>
>> Which word do you mean: "very" or "unique?"
>
> Unique, of course.
>
>> If I called the snowflake heavy, different, exotic, or incomparable,
>> I'd still say "very."  "Truly" is a common, basic meaning of "very."
>
> Yes. Good.  Carry on.
>
>> It has meant that since the mid-13th Century.  The first known use of
>> the word to mean "extremely" occurred two centuries later.
>>
>> I find it annoying when people say, "extremely unique!"
>
> Right. One of the best reasons to avoid degress of uniqueness, is that
> at least part of tht time sone one will point out that you're using the
> word wrong. That in itself is a good reason to mususe it--it takes up
> too much time!
>
Should people stop talking about their very best efforts in case 
somebody thinks this implies other levels of bestness?  Should people 
stop talking about their very own car in case somebody thinks this 
implies other degrees of possession?

Using "very" to imply a degree of intensity comes form 15th Century 
slang.  It should be outlawed.

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#54083

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2013-12-30 11:54 -0800
Message-ID<201312301154437698-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
In reply to#54063
On 2013-12-30 17:14:16 +0000, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> said:

> On 12/30/13, 12:13 AM, gtr wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>> Very annoying is "very unique" which is impossible since unique means
>>>> one only.
>>> 
>>> Sure, but there are degrees of unique.
>> 
>> No there aren't, the definition of the word is quite simple.
>> 
> 
> Yes, but "very" can mean "without qualification," regardless of degree. 
>   One can say every snowflake is unique, but it's debatable.  If a 
> six-pounder hit me on the head, I'd tell the doctor in the emergency 
> room it was a very unique snowflake.

If a six pound snowflake hit me on the head, I would probably say, "WTF!!"

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#54089

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2013-12-30 17:26 -0500
Message-ID<52c1f333$0$10882$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#54083
On 13-12-30 14:54, Savageduck wrote:

> If a six pound snowflake hit me on the head, I would probably say, "WTF!!"


In Canada, we call those "snowballs".  They only occur with a proper mix
of the right type of snow and kids. Can be quite frequent. Although
adults rarely take kindly to receiving one on the head.

With regards to "unique". It all depends at what level you do the
comparison.

2 pairs of underwear at the store, same model, same size, same colour
would be considered identical to the shopper. But to a scientist with an
electron microscope, he would see vast differences between them due one
pair having more atoms than another.

To someone living at the Equator, all snowflakes would be alike. The
inuit in northern Canada recognize about a hundred different types of
snowflakes. (depends on conditions in cloud, between cloud and ground
and at ground).

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#54090

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2013-12-30 22:41 +0000
Message-ID<301220132241236919%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#54089
In article <52c1f333$0$10882$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 13-12-30 14:54, Savageduck wrote:
> 
> > If a six pound snowflake hit me on the head, I would probably say, "WTF!!"
> 
> 
> In Canada, we call those "snowballs".  They only occur with a proper mix
> of the right type of snow and kids. Can be quite frequent. Although
> adults rarely take kindly to receiving one on the head.

Have to be a fairly large snowball to contain a child, I'd have thought.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#54094

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2013-12-30 18:11 -0500
Message-ID<52c1fd9e$0$22400$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#54090
On 13-12-30 17:41, Tim Streater wrote:

> Have to be a fairly large snowball to contain a child, I'd have thought.


No ! No ! No ! It is the combination of kids with right type of snow
that causes the formation of snowballs :-)

The kids are the ones who create them :-)

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