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Next update of Mac Mini?

Started by"Ed H." <fake@notreal.net>
First post2014-03-22 16:07 -0500
Last post2014-03-26 08:20 +1200
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  Next update of Mac Mini? "Ed H." <fake@notreal.net> - 2014-03-22 16:07 -0500
    Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-22 23:02 +0000
    Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-23 12:09 +1200
      Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-23 12:11 -0400
        Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-23 21:10 -0400
          Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-24 16:09 +1200
    Re: Next update of Mac Mini? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-23 09:06 -0400
    Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2014-03-23 19:00 -0400
      Re: Next update of Mac Mini? "Ed H." <fake@notreal.net> - 2014-03-24 20:46 -0500
        Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-25 11:02 -0400
    Re: Next update of Mac Mini? John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-03-23 19:30 -0400
      Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-24 13:11 +1200
      Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-24 01:40 +0000
    Re: Next update of Mac Mini? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-24 13:27 +1300
      Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-23 22:55 -0400
        Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-23 20:12 -0700
          Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-24 04:42 -0400
            Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-25 09:01 +1200
              Re: Next update of Mac Mini? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-25 09:28 +1300
                Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-25 13:24 +1200
                  Re: Next update of Mac Mini? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-25 13:56 +1300
                    Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-25 13:03 +0000
                      Re: Next update of Mac Mini? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-26 13:34 +1300
              Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-24 17:01 -0400
                Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-24 23:02 +0000
                  Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 19:15 -0400
                    Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-25 13:31 +1200
                Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-24 23:10 +0000
                Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-25 13:18 +1200
            Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-25 18:16 +1200
              Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-25 05:14 -0400
                Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-25 10:19 +0000
                Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-25 13:05 +0000
                  Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-25 11:14 -0400
                Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-25 11:11 -0400
                  Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-25 23:01 +0000
                    Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-25 19:37 -0400
                      Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 08:30 -0400
                        Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-03-26 09:04 -0400
                          Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 09:33 -0400
                        Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-26 16:20 -0400
                          Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 19:31 -0400
                            Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-26 19:59 -0400
                              Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-26 20:22 -0400
                                Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-26 20:30 -0400
                                  Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 20:35 -0400
                                    Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-27 13:52 +1200
                                      Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 08:46 -0400
                                        Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-27 13:45 +0000
                                      Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-27 18:27 +0000
                                        Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-27 15:07 -0400
                                          Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 15:41 -0400
                                            Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-28 06:06 +0000
                                              Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 09:28 -0400
                                                Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-28 13:50 +0000
                                                  Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 10:08 -0400
                                        Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-27 17:30 -0400
                                        Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-27 21:59 +0000
                                      Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-02 23:14 -0400
                                        Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-03 16:37 +1200
                                          Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-08 12:47 -0400
                                        Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-03 06:22 +0000
                                    Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-27 00:59 -0400
                                  Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-27 00:57 -0400
                                  Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-27 00:57 -0400
                                    Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 08:44 -0400
                                      Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-27 15:03 -0400
                                        Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-27 17:31 -0400
                                    Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-27 17:28 -0400
                    Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-25 19:49 -0400
                Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-26 08:20 +1200

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#58396

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2014-04-08 12:47 -0400
Message-ID<5344280e$0$9693$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#58300
In article <030420141637130586%YourName@YourISP.com>,
 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> True, but it's not just the TV episodes. The Doctor Who Adventure Games
> for example were free downloads for UK residents, but people anywhere
> else had to pay for them.

Ha. I remember Life on Mars, some years ago. BBC Canada were showing 
truncated versions so they could fit their godawful commercials in. BBC 
Canada has almost nothing to do with the real Beeb. Anyway, they were 
cutting like 15 minutes out of each show, the assholes. 

But of course, I noticed this after the fact, because I was already 
downloading good hi-res versions as they were broadcast; with the time 
difference, we could watch an episode in our "prime time" that had been 
broadcast same day in the UK prime time.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#58301

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-04-03 06:22 +0000
Message-ID<slrnljpvh7.1tao.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#58299
In message <533cd204$0$10595$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com> 
  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-03-26 21:52, Your Name wrote:

>> The BBC's website limits much of its content to British residents (not
>> just the TV shows, but also things like the Doctor Who games), although
>> you can get around it using proxy servers. To some degree they do have
>> the right to do that though since the British public pay a TV licensing
>> fee, whereas overseas people do not

> It isn't just that. When BBC sells exclusve rights to a programme in the
> USA (for instance PBS or BBC America), then BBC UK does not have the
> right to allow americans to access that programm from the BBC's UK web
> site because those rights belong to whoever purchased the exclusive
> rights for that country.


> Similarly, when Bell Media buys exclusive canadian righst for Doctor
> Who, it doesn't want canadians to have access to the "real" Doctor Who
> from the BBC, it wants to force canadians to subscribe to cable so they
> can watch it on Space or on the Space web site that is wall-gardened to
> cable subscribers more and more.

> Bell Media's version of Doctor Who may be shorter (to allow for more
> commercials) with various animations added at bottom of screens as part
> fo ads or promoting other programmes.

> Another example: the british series Spooks. It was exported to USA as
> "MI-5", but the US version was roughly 10 minutes shorter per episode so
> it would fit in the PBS schedule that include a few minutes to beg for
> donations.

MI-5 was shown on BBCA and was cut *TWENTY* minutes (out of 60). Spooks,
for at least the first three series or so was an excellent show. MI-5
was complete and utter unwatchable shit.

Perhaps they re-cut it later for PBS, but cutting anything from that show
would be a crime.


-- 
'Is it heroic to die like this?' said Conina.  'I think it is,' he said,
'and when it comes to dying, there's only one opinion that matters.'

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#58155

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-03-27 00:59 -0400
Message-ID<5333b043$0$58641$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#58151
On 14-03-26 20:35, Warren Oates wrote:

> Yeah. I'd like to see a reference to that. I hate the Canadian 
> CRTC-driven bullshit too, 


For the record, Netflix is not regulated by the CRTC. It is however
regulated by copyright law. If Bell/Rogers/Shaw own exclusive rights to
a program/movie and won't sell it to Netflix at affordable rates,
Netflix canot show it in Canada even if it has the rights in the USA for
the same programme.


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#58153

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-03-27 00:57 -0400
Message-ID<5333afa9$0$58641$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#58150
On 14-03-26 20:30, Alan Browne wrote:

> That's very interesting, do you have references?

Yes.

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#58154

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-03-27 00:57 -0400
Message-ID<5333afc7$0$58641$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#58150
On 14-03-26 20:30, Alan Browne wrote:

> That's very interesting, do you have references?

And before you ask what the references are:

http://www.unblock-us.com/how-to-set-up/

:-)

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#58157

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2014-03-27 08:44 -0400
Message-ID<53341d36$0$9617$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#58154
In article <5333afc7$0$58641$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com>,
 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> http://www.unblock-us.com/how-to-set-up/

Those aren't the "references" that were being asked for; it was this 
paragraph:

In article <53336f5b$0$10487$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com>,
 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Some Canadian monopolistic media companies have complained about Netflix
> taking no action to prevent Canadians from accessing content for which
> the canadian media copany hold exclusive rights for Canada.

I've tried using my Sony box proxied through a VPN-connected computer, 
fwiw,  and that doesn't work. I can watch Netflix directly through the 
same computer. I dunno.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#58162

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-03-27 15:03 -0400
Message-ID<533475f4$0$1393$c3e8da3$b1356c67@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#58157
On 14-03-27 08:44, Warren Oates wrote:

> Those aren't the "references" that were being asked for; it was this 
> paragraph:

>> Some Canadian monopolistic media companies have complained about Netflix
>> taking no action to prevent Canadians from accessing content for which
>> the canadian media copany hold exclusive rights for Canada.

Look at the documents of the first and second Bell Astral CRTC hearings
and you will find plenty of references to the incumbent hoarding US
content to prevent others from getting it.

CRTC vertical integration rules kick in only once the media company
starts to air a program, and force them to make it available to other
BDUs for distribution, however, Netflix is considered a NMBU (New Media
broadcasting undertaking) and not covered, so Bell/Shaw/Roger have no
obligation to make programming available to Netflix.

And the obligation is limited to Media to BDU sales. So Bell Media is
forced to make available all its channels to any BDU. However, Bell
Media is free to charge whatever it wants for them, and the dispute
resolution mechanism is not working well.

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#58172

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-03-27 17:31 -0400
Message-ID<QKKdnSS7gfMBBanOnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#58162
On 2014.03.27, 15:03 , JF Mezei wrote:
> On 14-03-27 08:44, Warren Oates wrote:
>
>> Those aren't the "references" that were being asked for; it was this
>> paragraph:
>
>>> Some Canadian monopolistic media companies have complained about Netflix
>>> taking no action to prevent Canadians from accessing content for which
>>> the canadian media copany hold exclusive rights for Canada.
>
> Look at the documents of the first and second Bell Astral CRTC hearings


Show us.  References.  Links.


-- 
   Privacy has become an essential personal chore that most
   people are not trained to perform.
                  - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

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#58170

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-03-27 17:28 -0400
Message-ID<QKKdnSq7gfOKBanOnZ2dnUVZ_sIAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#58154
On 2014.03.27, 00:57 , JF Mezei wrote:
> On 14-03-26 20:30, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> That's very interesting, do you have references?
>
> And before you ask what the references are:
>
> http://www.unblock-us.com/how-to-set-up/

Show us the reference asked for.  Here is what you said:

QUOTE Some Canadian monopolistic media companies have complained about 
Netflix taking no action to prevent Canadians from accessing content for 
which the canadian media copany hold exclusive rights for Canada.
ENDQUOTE

So, let's have references, links to those complaints.

-- 
   Privacy has become an essential personal chore that most
   people are not trained to perform.
                  - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

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#58137

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-03-25 19:49 -0400
Message-ID<CoidnRh_ieppiK_OnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#58134
On 2014.03.25, 19:01 , Lewis wrote:

> Frankly, I would like to see them build the AppleTV in
> across the line.

You got it:

http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/51a64c3beab8ea7f1e000006-620-465/apple-tv-9.jpg



-- 
   Those who have reduced our privacy, whether they are state
   or commercial actors, prefer that we do not reduce theirs.
                  - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

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#58133

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-03-26 08:20 +1200
Message-ID<260320140820529152%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#58120
In article <533148dd$0$55609$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 14-03-25 02:16, Your Name wrote:
> > http://www.macworld.co.uk/opinion/mac/apple-shouldnt-ignore-mac-mini-35
> > 07896/
> 
> The article mentions Mac Mini as a games console. But to be credible,
> wouldn't it have to have a mighty powerful graphics processor instead of
> the "vanilla" built-in one ?
> 
> More importantly, isn't Apple-TV more likely to get game console role
> than a Mac Mini ?

I guess it depends on what games you are playing. The Apple TV makes
sense if you can use iOS App Store games, while a Mac Mini might make
sense for more traditional Mac games (with a better graphics card as
you say). I doubt Apple would be trying to take on the Xbox /
PlayStation type of "gamer" quality, but aiming more at the casual game
player.



> It si somewhat ironic that despite the failure of the "Cube", I could
> see that form factor returning. A Mac Mini acting as file server, topped
> by a number of 1TB SSDs to bring perhaps 6TB of storage.
> 
> Or stackable boxes, one of which would be a Mac Mini with storage
> expansion boxes you could stack oabove it.

A couple of companies already make stackable external boxes for the Mac
Mini.

The "cube" design itself is almost back in the current Airport boxes,
they just don't have the "floating" transparent bottom section.

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