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Apple High End DSLR?

Started byMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
First post2012-08-20 13:47 -0700
Last post2012-08-21 13:59 -0400
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  Apple High End DSLR? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 13:47 -0700
    Re: Apple High End DSLR? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-20 17:28 -0400
      Re: Apple High End DSLR? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 15:23 -0700
        Re: Apple High End DSLR? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-20 18:49 -0400
          Re: Apple High End DSLR? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 16:36 -0700
            Re: Apple High End DSLR? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-20 19:53 -0400
        Re: Apple High End DSLR? George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-20 18:26 -0500
        Re: Apple High End DSLR? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2012-08-21 15:05 +0200
      Re: Apple High End DSLR? YourName@YourISP.com (Your Name) - 2012-08-21 16:10 +1200
        Re: Apple High End DSLR? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-21 18:50 -0400
      Re: Apple High End DSLR? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-21 01:10 -0400
        Re: Apple High End DSLR? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-08-21 01:49 -0400
          Re: Apple High End DSLR? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 23:40 -0700
        Re: Apple High End DSLR? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-21 19:01 -0400
          Re: Apple High End DSLR? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-21 16:08 -0700
            Re: Apple High End DSLR? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-21 21:20 -0400
          Re: Apple High End DSLR? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 16:09 -0700
            Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-21 21:26 -0400
              Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-08-22 10:25 +0100
                  Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-23 08:06 +1000
                    Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-22 15:15 -0700
                      Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-23 08:35 +1000
                        Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-24 07:57 +1000
                Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-23 16:53 -0400
                  Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 14:01 -0700
                    iCloud, PhotoStream and backing up your photos (was Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!) Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-23 15:13 -0700
                      Re: iCloud, PhotoStream and backing up your photos (was Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!) Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 15:27 -0700
                      Re: iCloud, PhotoStream and backing up your photos (was Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-23 19:08 -0400
                        Re: iCloud, PhotoStream and backing up your photos (was Re: Apple   High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!) Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-23 16:54 -0700
                          Re: iCloud, PhotoStream and backing up your photos Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-24 16:45 -0400
                        Re: iCloud, PhotoStream and backing up your photos (was Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!) Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 21:30 -0700
                          Re: iCloud, PhotoStream and backing up your photos (was Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-24 16:57 -0400
                            Re: iCloud, PhotoStream and backing up your photos (was Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!) Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-24 14:17 -0700
                              Re: iCloud, PhotoStream and backing up your photos (was Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-24 17:47 -0400
                                Re: iCloud, PhotoStream and backing up your photos (was Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!) Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-24 14:55 -0700
                                  Re: iCloud, PhotoStream and backing up your photos (was Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 09:08 -0400
                                    Re: iCloud, PhotoStream and backing up your photos (was Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!) Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-26 11:44 -0700
                                      Re: iCloud, PhotoStream and backing up your photos (was Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 15:31 -0400
                                        Re: iCloud, PhotoStream and backing up your photos (was Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!) John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2012-08-27 10:46 -0700
                                          Re: iCloud, PhotoStream and backing up your photos (was Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!) Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-27 19:23 -0400
                                            Keepers, storage, culling photos [was Re: iCloud, PhotoStream a....] John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2012-08-27 19:53 -0700
                                              Re: Keepers, storage, culling photos [was Re: iCloud, PhotoStream a....] Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-28 19:49 -0400
                    Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-23 21:10 -0400
                      Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 21:42 -0700
                  Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-23 14:39 -0700
                    Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-24 17:32 -0400
                      Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-24 14:49 -0700
                        Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-24 17:51 -0400
                      Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-24 16:46 -0700
                        Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 09:12 -0400
                      Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2012-08-24 17:16 -0700
                        Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 09:13 -0400
                          Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2012-08-25 09:41 -0700
                            Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 13:00 -0400
                              Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2012-08-25 10:47 -0700
                                Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 14:12 -0400
                                  Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2012-08-25 11:16 -0700
                                    Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 14:51 -0400
                                      Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-25 15:37 -0400
                                        Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 16:51 -0400
                                          Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! MC <copespaz@mapca.inter.net> - 2012-08-25 16:56 -0400
                                            Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 16:13 -0400
                                              Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-26 19:12 -0400
                                                Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 19:17 -0400
                                              Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-26 18:20 -0700
                                              Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2012-08-27 10:48 -0700
                                          Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-25 17:09 -0400
                                            Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 18:14 -0400
                                              Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-25 22:23 -0400
                                                Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-25 19:53 -0700
                                                  Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-26 12:58 +1000
                                                  Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-08-25 23:16 -0400
                                                    Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-25 20:28 -0700
                                                    Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 10:47 -0400
                                                  Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 10:41 -0400
                                                    Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-26 13:20 -0400
                                                      Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 13:33 -0400
                                                        Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-26 19:05 -0400
                                                          Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 19:19 -0400
                                                Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 10:37 -0400
                                            Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-08-25 23:18 +0100
                                              Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-26 09:57 +1000
                                                Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-08-26 13:27 +0100
                                    Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-25 15:33 -0400
                                      Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 16:53 -0400
                                        Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2012-08-25 17:48 -0700
                                          Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 16:23 -0400
                            Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-25 20:23 -0700
                              Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero! Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 10:48 -0400
          Re: Apple High End DSLR? Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 16:31 -0700
            Re: Apple High End DSLR? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-21 21:27 -0400
            Re: Apple High End DSLR? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 21:59 -0700
          Re: Apple High End DSLR? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-08-21 21:27 -0400
            Re: Apple High End DSLR? John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2012-08-22 16:03 -0700
              Re: Apple High End DSLR? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-08-23 01:50 +0000
    Re: Apple High End DSLR? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-20 15:37 -0700
      Re: Apple High End DSLR? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-20 18:48 -0400
        Re: Apple High End DSLR? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-20 16:00 -0700
          Re: Apple High End DSLR? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-20 19:38 -0400
            Re: Apple High End DSLR? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-20 16:51 -0700
              Re: Apple High End DSLR? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-20 19:58 -0400
                Re: Apple High End DSLR? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-20 17:13 -0700
            Re: Apple High End DSLR? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 19:24 -0700
    Re: Apple High End DSLR? "Charles" <charlesschuler@comcast.net> - 2012-08-20 18:52 -0400
      Re: Apple High End DSLR? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-20 19:42 -0400
      Re: Apple High End DSLR? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-08-20 22:34 -0400
        Re: Apple High End DSLR? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-08-20 22:44 -0400
          Re: Apple High End DSLR? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2012-08-21 15:15 +0200
          Re: Apple High End DSLR? Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-21 07:54 -0600
          Re: Apple High End DSLR? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-21 21:08 -0400
        Re: Apple High End DSLR? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-21 18:30 -0400
          Re: Apple High End DSLR? YourName@YourISP.com (Your Name) - 2012-08-22 13:09 +1200
    Re: Apple High End DSLR? George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-20 18:04 -0500
    Re: Apple High End DSLR? "Mark Dodel" <madodelNOSPAM@ptd.net> - 2012-08-20 19:19 -0500
    Re: Apple High End DSLR? "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-21 15:54 +0100
      Re: Apple High End DSLR? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-21 13:59 -0400

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#30077 — Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2012-08-26 10:37 -0400
SubjectRe: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!
Message-ID<NaadnbfzTaY9qafNnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#30059
On 2012-08-25 22:23 , Davoud wrote:
> Alan Browne:
>> Download tunes?  Okay.  Download video.  er,
>> sure.  Download apps?  uh, really?  It's just gotten out of hand.
>
> I said, "Or perhaps the iTunes software is just too complex for you to
> learn to use." Got it in one, didn't I?

Of course not.  You're just throwing stones with no accuracy and lesser 
effect.

iTunes is usable as well as needlessly complex, functionally 
inconsistent and user-interface disorganized.

-- 
"C'mon boys, you're not laying pipe!".
                                 -John Keating.

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#30049 — Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2012-08-25 23:18 +0100
SubjectRe: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!
Message-ID<timstreater-E6A4C1.23181425082012@news.individual.net>
In reply to#30045
In article <250820121709173370%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
wrote:

> John McWilliams:
> > >>> but iTunes works very well for me.
> > >>> Very well indeed.
> 
> > > Alan Browne:
> > >> It works.  Very well?  No.
> 
> Davoud:
> > > You are a total lid. Your denial that iTunes works very well for Mr.
> > > McWilliams (and for me and for countless other users) is patently
> > > ridiculous.
> 
> Alan Browne:
> > I'm not the only one who thinks iTunes needs a major 
> > overhaul....
> 
> Nor are Mr. McWilliams and I the only ones for whom iTunes does its job
> well. It is not your opinion that iTunes needs an overhaul that makes
> you a lid. It's your declaration (an absolute one, by the way) that
> iTunes can't be working well for us because it doesn't work well for
> you that reveals a faulty processing unit inside your head. Or perhaps
> the iTunes software is just too complex for you to learn to use. Either
> way, you are, in layman's terms, a lid.

He is completely hatstand.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#30053 — Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!

Fromdorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au>
Date2012-08-26 09:57 +1000
SubjectRe: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!
Message-ID<dorayme-8804C7.09571226082012@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#30049
In article <timstreater-E6A4C1.23181425082012@news.individual.net>,
 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> 
> He is completely hatstand.

So, you are saying more than his lift does not go to the top, that 
there is a roo loose in the top paddock, that he is two bob short of a 
quid.

-- 
dorayme

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#30074 — Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2012-08-26 13:27 +0100
SubjectRe: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!
Message-ID<timstreater-CAB651.13271826082012@news.individual.net>
In reply to#30053
In article <dorayme-8804C7.09571226082012@news.albasani.net>,
 dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> In article <timstreater-E6A4C1.23181425082012@news.individual.net>,
>  Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > He is completely hatstand.
> 
> So, you are saying more than his lift does not go to the top, that 
> there is a roo loose in the top paddock, that he is two bob short of a 
> quid.

Noodles to that effect.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#30036 — Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2012-08-25 15:33 -0400
SubjectRe: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!
Message-ID<250820121533332701%star@sky.net>
In reply to#30032
Alan Browne wrote of iTunes:
> > It has evolved into the worst pile of spaghetti imaginable.  It needs a
> > complete new design based on sober requirements analysis, functional
> > breakdown and user interface design.

John McWilliams:
> You're not alone in that sentiment, but iTunes works very well for me. 
> Very well indeed.

No, he isn't alone in that conviction, but I, too, have used this
software since SoundJam days. I have always liked it, and it has always
worked for me. It does diverse tasks without mixing them up, and I make
no apology to those who refuse to learn it and like it for my own
success with iTunes.

As for iCloud syncing of calendars and contacts, I have found no bugs
that couldn't be squashed by learning how to use the functions.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#30042 — Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2012-08-25 16:53 -0400
SubjectRe: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!
Message-ID<e4OdnZIoBc6npqTNnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#30036
On 2012-08-25 15:33 , Davoud wrote:

>
> As for iCloud syncing of calendars and contacts, I have found no bugs
> that couldn't be squashed by learning how to use the functions.

No functions to learn.  Just a 3rd party patch/workaround to repair the 
damage done by the iCould sync bug on the Mac.

See https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3871939?start=0&tstart=0


-- 
"C'mon boys, you're not laying pipe!".
                                 -John Keating.

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#30055 — Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!

FromJohn McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net>
Date2012-08-25 17:48 -0700
SubjectRe: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!
Message-ID<k1brp0$5d5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#30042
On 8/25/12   PDT 1:53 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2012-08-25 15:33 , Davoud wrote:
>
>>
>> As for iCloud syncing of calendars and contacts, I have found no bugs
>> that couldn't be squashed by learning how to use the functions.
>
> No functions to learn.  Just a 3rd party patch/workaround to repair the
> damage done by the iCould sync bug on the Mac.
>
> See https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3871939?start=0&tstart=0

You jest.
A few posts from nobodies that they have problems similar to yours makes 
your argument??

I used no third party anythings, and I learned to remove- and not 
create- duplicates.

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#30100 — Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2012-08-26 16:23 -0400
SubjectRe: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!
Message-ID<YsudnXmFdOEgGKfNnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#30055
On 2012.08.25 20:48 , John McWilliams wrote:
> On 8/25/12   PDT 1:53 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2012-08-25 15:33 , Davoud wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> As for iCloud syncing of calendars and contacts, I have found no bugs
>>> that couldn't be squashed by learning how to use the functions.
>>
>> No functions to learn.  Just a 3rd party patch/workaround to repair the
>> damage done by the iCould sync bug on the Mac.
>>
>> See https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3871939?start=0&tstart=0
>
> You jest.
> A few posts from nobodies that they have problems similar to yours makes
> your argument??
>
> I used no third party anythings, and I learned to remove- and not
> create- duplicates.

The nature of this bug is that it affects some computers, not all, and 
from what I read to varying degrees.  So you happen to have a computer 
on which it has not had an effect or minimally so.

As I said before, when a key product from Apple (their huge splash over 
iCloud) comes out of the paddock buggy I don't walk from it, I run.

I won't use workarounds to fix it.

I won't manually fix many entries in my calendar.

Instead I'll use iTunes/iPhone sync (which works) to sync those 
calendars.  I don't need iCloud for that - esp. when it the sync 
function has known bugs.

The whole purpose of the iCloud is to reduce effort and improve ones lot 
by reducing work.  It has failed in my case and that of the people in 
the linked forum above - which is not a unique list.  They, like you, 
are not "nobodies".

-- 
"C'mon boys, you're not laying pipe!".
                                 -John Keating.

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#30063 — Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!

FromBread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net>
Date2012-08-25 20:23 -0700
SubjectRe: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!
Message-ID<k1c4se$g2k$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#30019
On 2012-08-25 16:41:58 +0000, John McWilliams said:

> On 8/25/12   PDT 6:13 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2012-08-24 20:16 , John McWilliams wrote:
>>> On 8/24/12   PDT 2:32 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> And multiple (duplicated) entries in my calendars.  A mess, what.
>>> 
>>> Simple: Learn how Calendar actually works!
>> 
>> Bzzzztttt - but thanks for playing.
>> 
>> Your entry fee is non-refundable, however.
> 
> What an amazing come back and deflection! WTF?? You don't know how to 
> manage Apple calendars if you're experiencing duplicates you didn't 
> create and don't want.
> 
> If you're talking about other calendars, such as Google, probably the 
> same condition exists.
> But, sure, come on with another inane reply.

You're wrong.  Browne may or may not know how to handle calendars, but 
that doesn't change the fact that there was a *bug* in some early 
iCloud migrations which did cause duplicates.

Moreover, Apple has a history of bugs and burps in sync services.  It 
hosed my Address Book at least twice (though, in fairness, that was 
several generations back with iSync.)

Nevertheless, you cannot conclude that the user doesn't know what he's 
doing when sync services or migrations duplicate data.

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#30080 — Re: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2012-08-26 10:48 -0400
SubjectRe: Apple High End DSLR? Nospam is my hero!
Message-ID<ObmdnfI8D_rbqqfNnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#30063
On 2012-08-25 23:23 , Bread wrote:
> On 2012-08-25 16:41:58 +0000, John McWilliams said:
>
>> On 8/25/12   PDT 6:13 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>> On 2012-08-24 20:16 , John McWilliams wrote:
>>>> On 8/24/12   PDT 2:32 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> And multiple (duplicated) entries in my calendars.  A mess, what.
>>>>
>>>> Simple: Learn how Calendar actually works!
>>>
>>> Bzzzztttt - but thanks for playing.
>>>
>>> Your entry fee is non-refundable, however.
>>
>> What an amazing come back and deflection! WTF?? You don't know how to
>> manage Apple calendars if you're experiencing duplicates you didn't
>> create and don't want.
>>
>> If you're talking about other calendars, such as Google, probably the
>> same condition exists.
>> But, sure, come on with another inane reply.
>
> You're wrong.  Browne may or may not know how to handle calendars,

When they are bug free I muddle through.  ;-)


-- 
"C'mon boys, you're not laying pipe!".
                                 -John Keating.

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#29854

FromBread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net>
Date2012-08-21 16:31 -0700
Message-ID<k115o7$m21$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#29847
On 2012-08-21 23:01:31 +0000, Alan Browne said:
> When it's not the silly assed 4-step Apple way, in any case.
> 
> My camera:
> 1. Plug camera or card into computer.
> 2. Copy photos to computer

Um hmm.
> 
> 
> Apple way:
> 1. Plug iPhone into computer (can't WiFi this AFAICT)
> 2. Run iPhoto
> 3. Import photos to iPhoto
> 4. Export photos from iPhoto to a folder on the computer

Um, no.  That may be the way *you* are doing it, but it's not the only 
way Apple provides.

(a) you can have any of several apps automatically start up when you 
plug in the camera.  iphoto is the likely default, but you could also 
have it be Image Capture.  So step (2) is unnecessary

(b) if you don't want to use iPhoto, don't.  ImageCapture will download 
to any folder you like.  Or send them to some app you like.  So there's 
no need for separate steps (3) or (4).

It's the same two steps, but with a nicer interface than dragging and 
dropping files.

And it's already on your computer.
> 
> That is something Apple could make a lot simpler - and w/o the stinkin' iCould.

They have.  It's been around for a long time.  You already have it.  
Image Capture has been around since at least 10.4 (probably longer, but 
I don't remember off the top of my head), was totally updated in 10.6, 
and not only speaks to your camera, but also to your scanner and lots 
of other devices.  It's what I use with my AIO networked print/scan/fax.

(The current version with ML is 6.2 (451), and the copyright says 
2000-2012, so maybe it was around with the very first OSX - predating 
even iPhoto by a couple of years)

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#29870

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2012-08-21 21:27 -0400
Message-ID<qKSdnU0YjNXxqKnNnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#29854
On 2012-08-21 19:31 , Bread wrote:
> On 2012-08-21 23:01:31 +0000, Alan Browne said:
>> When it's not the silly assed 4-step Apple way, in any case.
>>
>> My camera:
>> 1. Plug camera or card into computer.
>> 2. Copy photos to computer
>
> Um hmm.
>>
>>
>> Apple way:
>> 1. Plug iPhone into computer (can't WiFi this AFAICT)
>> 2. Run iPhoto
>> 3. Import photos to iPhoto
>> 4. Export photos from iPhoto to a folder on the computer
>
> Um, no.  That may be the way *you* are doing it, but it's not the only
> way Apple provides.

Sorry Bread - nospam beat you to it.  (not exactly but close enough).


-- 
"C'mon boys, you're not laying pipe!".
                                 -John Keating.

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#29886

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2012-08-21 21:59 -0700
Message-ID<michelle-392C6F.21591621082012@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#29854
In article <k115o7$m21$1@reader1.panix.com>,
 Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> wrote:

> Image Capture has been around since at least 10.4 (probably longer, but 
> I don't remember off the top of my head),

Since 10.0.

-- 
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as 
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

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#29871

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2012-08-21 21:27 -0400
Message-ID<5034356e$0$44627$c3e8da3$9deca2c3@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#29847
Alan Browne wrote:

> Apple way:
> 1. Plug iPhone into computer (can't WiFi this AFAICT)
> 2. Run iPhoto
> 3. Import photos to iPhoto
> 4. Export photos from iPhoto to a folder on the computer

Plug in camera
Run "Preview".
File "import from camera"
Then save all to a directory.

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#29922

FromJohn McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net>
Date2012-08-22 16:03 -0700
Message-ID<k13ofk$j69$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#29871
On 8/21/12   PDT 6:27 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
> Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> Apple way:
>> 1. Plug iPhone into computer (can't WiFi this AFAICT)
>> 2. Run iPhoto
>> 3. Import photos to iPhoto
>> 4. Export photos from iPhoto to a folder on the computer
>
> Plug in camera
> Run "Preview".
> File "import from camera"
> Then save all to a directory.

You can set Preview to open when it detects a new card being attached to 
the computer. Most cameras can be set to look like a card.

So, hit button to Import.
Select directory if you want it to be different than what's presented.


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#29935

FromPatty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com>
Date2012-08-23 01:50 +0000
Message-ID<50358c70$0$70377$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>
In reply to#29922
In article <k13ofk$j69$1@dont-email.me>,
John McWilliams  <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>You can set Preview to open when it detects a new card being attached to 
>the computer. Most cameras can be set to look like a card.
>
>So, hit button to Import.
>Select directory if you want it to be different than what's presented.

I use Canon's own software for my camera, but have found Preview
very helpful for downloading photos from my iPhone. Unlike iPhoto,
it lets me save and organize the photos just how I want--such as
in directories of my choice, as John noted.


Patty

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#29790

FromDoug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Date2012-08-20 15:37 -0700
Message-ID<3ilih9nqau.fsf@ethel.the.log>
In reply to#29778
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> writes:

> Poll: Should Apple build an iOS high-end, point-and-shoot/prosumer DSLR?

Although the poll is indeed about a DSLR (which is a dumb idea for
Apple), the article is about a point-and-shoot.

I think a good, reasonably priced point-and-shoot that would geotag
pictures and directly load them to Photostream or some social
networking sites might be a winning product idea, though it is hard to
imagine it capturing the market share Apple is used to.

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#29792

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2012-08-20 18:48 -0400
Message-ID<UqadnVjaY9BcI6_NnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#29790
On 2012-08-20 18:37 , Doug Anderson wrote:

> I think a good, reasonably priced point-and-shoot that would geotag
> pictures and directly load them to Photostream or some social
> networking sites might be a winning product idea,

That's what it will be if it is to be.

> though it is hard to
> imagine it capturing the market share Apple is used to.

I think it could catch on like wild fire.

One of the problems right now is the massive choice in P&S cameras.  Go 
to dpreview.com to get a feel for it.

What Apple can bring to that is a single offering at a time (in 2 or 3 
under the skin variations) and simplify the whole thing.  Add 
WiFi/Bluetooth and the Apple USB connector, no removable memory card (it 
would have 8 or 16 GB of photo/video memory).

Throw in a decent optic, about 16 - 200mm (in 35mm terms), (designed by 
Zeiss and made by a good glass fab) with a decent sized sensor (at least 
8x6 mm, larger if possible) and it could be quite a winner.  And please 
a real flash.

It will be sleek and slim (other than the lens) and probably sell by the 
gazillions while gutting the other's sales.

-- 
"C'mon boys, you're not laying pipe!".
                                 -John Keating.

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#29796

FromDoug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Date2012-08-20 16:00 -0700
Message-ID<h8fw7hnp88.fsf@ethel.the.log>
In reply to#29792
Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:

> On 2012-08-20 18:37 , Doug Anderson wrote:
> 
> > I think a good, reasonably priced point-and-shoot that would geotag
> > pictures and directly load them to Photostream or some social
> > networking sites might be a winning product idea,
> 
> That's what it will be if it is to be.
> 
> > though it is hard to
> > imagine it capturing the market share Apple is used to.
> 
> I think it could catch on like wild fire.

Well, I would think seriously about it.   But I have trouble 
imagining it reaching iPhone levels of dominance.  

The market size and the replacement time for digitial cameras is (I
think) smaller and longer (respectively) than that for phones.  Also,
there are a lot of cheap cameras on the market (many of them are not 
very good).  Apple, if true to form, would make a high quality product
at a competitive price for that quality level.  But I'm not sure how
many discriminating consumers there are in the point-and-shoot market
(certainly there are some, but judging from the success of cheap
mediocre camers, there aren't that many).

> One of the problems right now is the massive choice in P&S cameras.
> Go to dpreview.com to get a feel for it.

Yeah - I think this is why it will be difficult for Apple to grab much
of the market.
 
> What Apple can bring to that is a single offering at a time (in 2 or 3
> under the skin variations) and simplify the whole thing.  Add
> WiFi/Bluetooth and the Apple USB connector, no removable memory card
> (it would have 8 or 16 GB of photo/video memory).
> 
> Throw in a decent optic, about 16 - 200mm (in 35mm terms), (designed
> by Zeiss and made by a good glass fab) with a decent sized sensor (at
> least 8x6 mm, larger if possible) and it could be quite a winner.  And
> please a real flash.
> 
> It will be sleek and slim (other than the lens) and probably sell by
> the gazillions while gutting the other's sales.

If you are right, this will be a fun product to see.  I have my doubts
- I think it will be too expensive to sell by the gazillions.

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#29800

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2012-08-20 19:38 -0400
Message-ID<U7-dnXkaVL3lV6_NnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#29796
On 2012-08-20 19:00 , Doug Anderson wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
>
>> On 2012-08-20 18:37 , Doug Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> I think a good, reasonably priced point-and-shoot that would geotag
>>> pictures and directly load them to Photostream or some social
>>> networking sites might be a winning product idea,
>>
>> That's what it will be if it is to be.
>>
>>> though it is hard to
>>> imagine it capturing the market share Apple is used to.
>>
>> I think it could catch on like wild fire.
>
> Well, I would think seriously about it.   But I have trouble
> imagining it reaching iPhone levels of dominance.
>
> The market size and the replacement time for digitial cameras is (I
> think) smaller and longer (respectively) than that for phones.  Also,
> there are a lot of cheap cameras on the market (many of them are not
> very good).  Apple, if true to form, would make a high quality product
> at a competitive price for that quality level.  But I'm not sure how
> many discriminating consumers there are in the point-and-shoot market
> (certainly there are some, but judging from the success of cheap
> mediocre camers, there aren't that many).

See below.

>
>> One of the problems right now is the massive choice in P&S cameras.
>> Go to dpreview.com to get a feel for it.
>
> Yeah - I think this is why it will be difficult for Apple to grab much
> of the market.

I think you misunderstand my point.  If you go look at dpreview the 
choices are overwhelming.  People trying to figure out what to get have 
so many choices that it's frustrating and hard to get it right for 
someone who doesn't understand the specs.

But if Apple comes along (and in their true marketing whiz-bang way) 
makes a product that doesn't need to be understood per se, it's Apple. 
Period.  And of course it will be an ace at P&S photography and do most 
things more than well enough for most people.

People will chuck trying to decide what to buy on dpreview and take the 
simple choice.  Apple iSnap.

Most interesting is that with iOS there could suddenly be a plethora of 
apps for such a phone to enhance what it can do.  (As there are many 
apps for the iphone that take photos - some well, others ...)^.

Make a phone, slap the Apple logo on it with iOS inside with all the 
iPad-esque stuff built it (indeed a fast link to the iPad) and people 
will just get it and make do.  Cue the Reality Distortion Field 
commercials and watch everyone else's sales crash.

^It's germane to note that most Canon P&S cameras can be re-programmed 
to a degree ( http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ ).

>
>> What Apple can bring to that is a single offering at a time (in 2 or 3
>> under the skin variations) and simplify the whole thing.  Add
>> WiFi/Bluetooth and the Apple USB connector, no removable memory card
>> (it would have 8 or 16 GB of photo/video memory).
>>
>> Throw in a decent optic, about 16 - 200mm (in 35mm terms), (designed
>> by Zeiss and made by a good glass fab) with a decent sized sensor (at
>> least 8x6 mm, larger if possible) and it could be quite a winner.  And
>> please a real flash.
>>
>> It will be sleek and slim (other than the lens) and probably sell by
>> the gazillions while gutting the other's sales.
>
> If you are right, this will be a fun product to see.  I have my doubts
> - I think it will be too expensive to sell by the gazillions.

-- 
"C'mon boys, you're not laying pipe!".
                                 -John Keating.

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