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Clarus, the DogCow : 30 years of Moof!

Started bypdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com (Pierre-Alain Dorange)
First post2014-01-24 14:33 +0100
Last post2014-01-25 10:04 +1300
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  Clarus, the DogCow : 30 years of Moof! pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com (Pierre-Alain Dorange) - 2014-01-24 14:33 +0100
    Re: Clarus, the DogCow : 30 years of Moof! "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> - 2014-01-24 09:16 -0500
      Re: Clarus, the DogCow : 30 years of Moof! Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-01-24 08:54 -0800
        Re: Clarus, the DogCow : 30 years of Moof! "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> - 2014-01-24 13:32 -0500
          Re: Clarus, the DogCow : 30 years of Moof! Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-01-24 11:25 -0800
    Re: Clarus, the DogCow : 30 years of Moof! Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-01-24 16:52 +0000
      Re: Clarus, the DogCow : 30 years of Moof! pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com (Pierre-Alain Dorange) - 2014-01-24 18:29 +0100
    Re: Clarus, the DogCow : 30 years of Moof! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-24 10:08 -0700
      Re: Clarus, the DogCow : 30 years of Moof! pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com (Pierre-Alain Dorange) - 2014-01-24 18:23 +0100
    Re: Clarus, the DogCow : 30 years of Moof! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-25 10:04 +1300

#55265 — Clarus, the DogCow : 30 years of Moof!

Frompdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com (Pierre-Alain Dorange)
Date2014-01-24 14:33 +0100
SubjectClarus, the DogCow : 30 years of Moof!
Message-ID<1lfzeqm.1or5qvj1p6xrxaN%pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com>
Clarus turns 30.

It was in 1984 that the first Macintosh was introduce, delivered with
the Cairo font. The "dingbats" fonts embed the z glyph resenting a
strange and small animal : the DogCow.

This animal will have a long destiny inside Apple Labs, becoming the
represntation of paper orientation inside the LaserWriter driver (for
the first Laser printer in 1986).

The in 1987, she became the mascot of DTS team inside Apple tech labs.
And was also the star of the WWDC 1988.

In 1991, the QuickTime developer team adopt here as the star in their
forst QuickTime demo movies.

After Steve Jobs return (1998), she progressivly disappears from Apple
and Macintosh. her last known reference in Apple was in 2004.

Read more :
<http://clarus.chez-alice.fr/history.php>>

-- 
Pierre-Alain Dorange               Moof <http://clarus.chez-alice.fr/>

Ce message est sous licence Creative Commons "by-nc-sa-2.0"
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#55267

From"Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net>
Date2014-01-24 09:16 -0500
Message-ID<tkettler-C863B3.09160324012014@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#55265
In article <1lfzeqm.1or5qvj1p6xrxaN%pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com>,
 pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com (Pierre-Alain Dorange) wrote:

> Clarus turns 30.
> 
> It was in 1984 that the first Macintosh was introduce, delivered with
> the Cairo font. The "dingbats" fonts embed the z glyph resenting a
> strange and small animal : the DogCow.
> 
> This animal will have a long destiny inside Apple Labs, becoming the
> represntation of paper orientation inside the LaserWriter driver (for
> the first Laser printer in 1986).
> 
> The in 1987, she became the mascot of DTS team inside Apple tech labs.
> And was also the star of the WWDC 1988.
> 
> In 1991, the QuickTime developer team adopt here as the star in their
> forst QuickTime demo movies.
> 
> After Steve Jobs return (1998), she progressivly disappears from Apple
> and Macintosh. her last known reference in Apple was in 2004.
> 
> Read more :
> <http://clarus.chez-alice.fr/history.php>>

You're just milking this for all it's worth and barking up the wrong 
tree.
-- 
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#55272

FromSiri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2014-01-24 08:54 -0800
Message-ID<chine.bleu-BC5AAE.08544324012014@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#55267
In article <tkettler-C863B3.09160324012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
 "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> wrote:

> In article <1lfzeqm.1or5qvj1p6xrxaN%pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com>,
>  pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com (Pierre-Alain Dorange) wrote:
> 
> > Clarus turns 30.
> > 
> > It was in 1984 that the first Macintosh was introduce, delivered with
> > the Cairo font. The "dingbats" fonts embed the z glyph resenting a
> > strange and small animal : the DogCow.
> > 
> > This animal will have a long destiny inside Apple Labs, becoming the
> > represntation of paper orientation inside the LaserWriter driver (for
> > the first Laser printer in 1986).
> > 
> > The in 1987, she became the mascot of DTS team inside Apple tech labs.
> > And was also the star of the WWDC 1988.
> > 
> > In 1991, the QuickTime developer team adopt here as the star in their
> > forst QuickTime demo movies.
> > 
> > After Steve Jobs return (1998), she progressivly disappears from Apple
> > and Macintosh. her last known reference in Apple was in 2004.
> > 
> > Read more :
> > <http://clarus.chez-alice.fr/history.php>>
> 
> You're just milking this for all it's worth and barking up the wrong 
> tree.

Hey, dude, don't have dogcow!

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'

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#55280

From"Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net>
Date2014-01-24 13:32 -0500
Message-ID<tkettler-EE83DF.13321424012014@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#55272
In article 
<chine.bleu-BC5AAE.08544324012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <tkettler-C863B3.09160324012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> wrote:
> 
> > In article <1lfzeqm.1or5qvj1p6xrxaN%pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com>,
> >  pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com (Pierre-Alain Dorange) wrote:
> > 
> > > Clarus turns 30.
> > > 
> > > It was in 1984 that the first Macintosh was introduce, delivered with
> > > the Cairo font. The "dingbats" fonts embed the z glyph resenting a
> > > strange and small animal : the DogCow.
> > > 
> > > This animal will have a long destiny inside Apple Labs, becoming the
> > > represntation of paper orientation inside the LaserWriter driver (for
> > > the first Laser printer in 1986).
> > > 
> > > The in 1987, she became the mascot of DTS team inside Apple tech labs.
> > > And was also the star of the WWDC 1988.
> > > 
> > > In 1991, the QuickTime developer team adopt here as the star in their
> > > forst QuickTime demo movies.
> > > 
> > > After Steve Jobs return (1998), she progressivly disappears from Apple
> > > and Macintosh. her last known reference in Apple was in 2004.
> > > 
> > > Read more :
> > > <http://clarus.chez-alice.fr/history.php>>
> > 
> > You're just milking this for all it's worth and barking up the wrong 
> > tree.
> 
> Hey, dude, don't have dogcow!

I'm sorry. It's my dogcowded enthusiasm!
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#55284

FromSiri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
Date2014-01-24 11:25 -0800
Message-ID<chine.bleu-1B4174.11245824012014@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#55280
In article <tkettler-EE83DF.13321424012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
 "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> wrote:

> In article 
> <chine.bleu-BC5AAE.08544324012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <tkettler-C863B3.09160324012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >  "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <1lfzeqm.1or5qvj1p6xrxaN%pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com>,
> > >  pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com (Pierre-Alain Dorange) wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Clarus turns 30.
> > > > 
> > > > It was in 1984 that the first Macintosh was introduce, delivered with
> > > > the Cairo font. The "dingbats" fonts embed the z glyph resenting a
> > > > strange and small animal : the DogCow.
> > > > 
> > > > This animal will have a long destiny inside Apple Labs, becoming the
> > > > represntation of paper orientation inside the LaserWriter driver (for
> > > > the first Laser printer in 1986).
> > > > 
> > > > The in 1987, she became the mascot of DTS team inside Apple tech labs.
> > > > And was also the star of the WWDC 1988.
> > > > 
> > > > In 1991, the QuickTime developer team adopt here as the star in their
> > > > forst QuickTime demo movies.
> > > > 
> > > > After Steve Jobs return (1998), she progressivly disappears from Apple
> > > > and Macintosh. her last known reference in Apple was in 2004.
> > > > 
> > > > Read more :
> > > > <http://clarus.chez-alice.fr/history.php>>
> > > 
> > > You're just milking this for all it's worth and barking up the wrong 
> > > tree.
> > 
> > Hey, dude, don't have dogcow!
> 
> I'm sorry. It's my dogcowded enthusiasm!

Does a dogcow have Buddha nature?

Muf.

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'

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#55273

FromPatty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com>
Date2014-01-24 16:52 +0000
Message-ID<52e29a3f$0$52759$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>
In reply to#55265
In article <1lfzeqm.1or5qvj1p6xrxaN%pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com>,
Pierre-Alain Dorange <pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com> wrote:
>
>It was in 1984 that the first Macintosh was introduce, delivered with
>the Cairo font. The "dingbats" fonts embed the z glyph resenting a
>strange and small animal : the DogCow.

I no longer see "Moof" on Apple's trademark page, but that is clearly
stated as being "a non-exhaustive list," so it could be that the term
is still trademarked but they no longer bother to list it on that page.


Patty

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#55277

Frompdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com (Pierre-Alain Dorange)
Date2014-01-24 18:29 +0100
Message-ID<1lfzpyn.qbjdcy81lr1gN%pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com>
In reply to#55273
Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:

> >It was in 1984 that the first Macintosh was introduce, delivered with
> >the Cairo font. The "dingbats" fonts embed the z glyph resenting a
> >strange and small animal : the DogCow.
> 
> I no longer see "Moof" on Apple's trademark page, but that is clearly
> stated as being "a non-exhaustive list," so it could be that the term
> is still trademarked but they no longer bother to list it on that page.


Yes, you're right "Moof!" and "DogCow" were no more listed in the
trademark list on Apple web site (since 2010, thansk to archives.org
memory).
But yes Apple also told that the list was not complete (so why put a
list, it's a different story).
I once wrote to Apple to ask on the legal status of "Moof!" and "Dogcow"
but i never get any answer...

So yes it could still be registered... or not.

Moof!
-- 
Pierre-Alain Dorange               Moof <http://clarus.chez-alice.fr/>

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#55275

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-01-24 10:08 -0700
Message-ID<240120141008005877%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#55265
In article <1lfzeqm.1or5qvj1p6xrxaN%pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com>,
Pierre-Alain Dorange <pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com> wrote:

> Clarus turns 30.
> 
> It was in 1984 that the first Macintosh was introduce, delivered with
> the Cairo font. The "dingbats" fonts embed the z glyph resenting a
> strange and small animal : the DogCow.
> 
> This animal will have a long destiny inside Apple Labs, becoming the
> represntation of paper orientation inside the LaserWriter driver (for
> the first Laser printer in 1986).
> 
> The in 1987, she became the mascot of DTS team inside Apple tech labs.
> And was also the star of the WWDC 1988.
> 
> In 1991, the QuickTime developer team adopt here as the star in their
> forst QuickTime demo movies.

But she didn't get named until Apple formed the Claris corporation; the
name "Clarus" was a pun on "Claris" because most of Apple's developers
didn't think all too much about Claris corporation.

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#55276

Frompdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com (Pierre-Alain Dorange)
Date2014-01-24 18:23 +0100
Message-ID<1lfzpfj.7uv8dkp44wfiN%pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com>
In reply to#55275
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> > Clarus turns 30.
> > 
> > It was in 1984 that the first Macintosh was introduce, delivered with
> > the Cairo font. The "dingbats" fonts embed the z glyph resenting a
> > strange and small animal : the DogCow.
> > 
> > This animal will have a long destiny inside Apple Labs, becoming the
> > represntation of paper orientation inside the LaserWriter driver (for
> > the first Laser printer in 1986).
> > 
> > The in 1987, she became the mascot of DTS team inside Apple tech labs.
> > And was also the star of the WWDC 1988.
> > 
> > In 1991, the QuickTime developer team adopt here as the star in their
> > forst QuickTime demo movies.
> 
> But she didn't get named until Apple formed the Claris corporation; the
> name "Clarus" was a pun on "Claris" because most of Apple's developers
> didn't think all too much about Claris corporation.

The story is not so clear, but according to official history (TechNote
31 and mark harlan "History of the DogCow").

The species (DogCow) appeared in 1987 (also Moof) under Scott Zimmermann
and Mark Harlan discussions.
She get named (Clarus) in 1989 in the famous TechNotes 31 (the name was
revealed to public and yes it was related to Claris Division).

But there was also terrified story around her :
Trollaxor told us an alternative story in 2002:
<http://clarus.chez-alice.fr/c_althistory.php>

Sources :
Original TechNotes 1031 (april 1987)
        <http://clarus.chez-alice.fr/originals/tn31.html>
History of the DogCow part 1 and 2 (1989) in develop magazine :
        <http://clarus.chez-alice.fr/originals/history-1.html>
        <http://clarus.chez-alice.fr/originals/history-2.html>

-- 
Pierre-Alain Dorange               Moof <http://clarus.chez-alice.fr/>

Ce message est sous licence Creative Commons "by-nc-sa-2.0"
<http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/fr/>

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#55289

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-01-25 10:04 +1300
Message-ID<250120141004166371%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#55265
In article <1lfzeqm.1or5qvj1p6xrxaN%pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com>,
Pierre-Alain Dorange <pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Clarus turns 30.
> 
> It was in 1984 that the first Macintosh was introduce, delivered with
> the Cairo font. The "dingbats" fonts embed the z glyph resenting a
> strange and small animal : the DogCow.
<snip>

I've never really seen the "cow" part ... it simply looks like a dog
with two black patches. There's plenty of dogs around like that. 

Our own dog when it was a puppy was white with auburn ears and an
auburn patch on its chest, but the auburn has faded out as it grew
older (still faintly visible on the ears, especially after a haircut).

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