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  Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-05 09:21 -0700
    Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-05 15:46 -0400
      Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-06 09:35 +1300
        Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-05 16:40 -0400
      Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-06 08:02 +1100
        Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2013-10-05 20:45 -0400
          Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-05 23:04 -0400
            Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-16 22:56 -0700
              Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-17 02:48 -0400
                Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2013-10-20 00:46 -0500
          Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-06 14:05 +1100
    Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-06 08:04 +1100
      Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-05 18:48 -0400
        Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-06 10:18 +1100
          Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2013-10-05 23:12 -0400
            Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-06 17:16 +1300
              Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-06 17:09 +1100
              Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-06 02:10 -0400
                Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-06 19:51 +1300
                Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-06 19:35 +1100
                Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-06 08:11 -0700
            Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-06 17:00 +1100
              Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-06 09:30 -0700
                Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-07 04:00 +1100
                  Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-06 15:32 -0700
                    Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-07 10:05 +1100
                      Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-06 19:01 -0500
                        Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-07 12:00 +1100
                    Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-06 18:48 -0500
                      Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Neil Ellwood <cral.elllwood2@btopenworld.com> - 2013-10-08 06:40 -0500
                        Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-09 09:05 +1300
                    Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-06 21:00 -0400
                      Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-06 19:55 -0700
                        Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2013-10-07 08:28 -0400
              Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2013-10-06 14:26 -0400
                Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-07 07:57 +1100
            Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-06 02:47 -0400
    Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Jon <jon@no-email.org> - 2013-10-06 17:34 +0100
      Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-07 04:05 +1100
      Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Prancer <prancer@prancer.commatose> - 2013-10-06 10:22 -0700
      Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-07 09:10 +1300
    Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Saint Isidore Patron Saint of the Internet <tadapope@gmail.com> - 2013-10-21 21:44 -0700
      Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2013-10-21 22:10 -0700
        Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-22 18:54 +1300
          Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-22 02:35 -0400
        Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-22 02:35 -0400
          Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-22 03:15 -0400
            Re: Two years after Steve Jobs' death, how's that new CEO working out? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-23 13:34 +1300

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#49562

In article <l2s3fg$eio$1@dont-email.me>, Jon <jon@no-email.org> wrote:

> On 05/10/2013 5:21 pm, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > His answer might surprise you.
> >
> > <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/05/tim_cook_and_apple_two_years_after_
> > steve_jobs_death/>
> >
> 
> It's not working out, Cook is just a bean counter, he has no vision or 
> drive, he's a disaster of Ballmer proportions!
> 
> Scott Forstall should be CEO of Apple.

Apple has LOTS of people with vision and creativity. In fact in some
ways, Steve Jobs' single-mindedness killed off a lot of ideas that may
have been great (and of course many that wre silly).

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#50318

On Saturday, October 5, 2013 9:21:19 AM UTC-7, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> His answer might surprise you.
> 
> 
> 
> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/05/tim_cook_and_apple_two_years_after_
> 
> steve_jobs_death/>
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> All usenet users are quirky, but some are more quirky than others.


Ain't that the truth!  I love all my Apples from the Apple II thru the latest MacBook Pro.  I love how it will run so many OS's including Windows but, due to the high prices of the computers and the hardware from Apple, sadly it is doomed.

Saint Isidore

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#50319

In article <5fd31af9-2564-4123-8107-1dbcb8e072db@googlegroups.com>,
 Saint Isidore Patron Saint of the Internet <tadapope@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, October 5, 2013 9:21:19 AM UTC-7, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > His answer might surprise you.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/05/tim_cook_and_apple_two_years_after_
> > 
> > steve_jobs_death/>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > All usenet users are quirky, but some are more quirky than others.
> 
> 
> Ain't that the truth!  I love all my Apples from the Apple II thru the latest 
> MacBook Pro.  I love how it will run so many OS's including Windows but, due 
> to the high prices of the computers and the hardware from Apple, sadly it is 
> doomed.
> 
> Saint Isidore

You DO realize that as you say this:

1. Mac market share has been steadily rising.

2. People have been saying "Apple is doomed!" for close to twenty years.

-- 
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

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#50320

In article <alangbaker-5BF29A.22105421102013@news.shawcable.net>, Alan
Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
> In article <5fd31af9-2564-4123-8107-1dbcb8e072db@googlegroups.com>,
>  Saint Isidore Patron Saint of the Internet <tadapope@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 5, 2013 9:21:19 AM UTC-7, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> > > 
> > > His answer might surprise you.
> > >
> > > <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/05/tim_cook_and_apple_two_years_afte
> > > r_steve_jobs_death/>
> > > 
> > > All usenet users are quirky, but some are more quirky than others.
> > 
> > Ain't that the truth!  I love all my Apples from the Apple II thru the
> > latest MacBook Pro.  I love how it will run so many OS's including 
> > Windows but, due to the high prices of the computers and the hardware
> > from Apple, sadly it is doomed.
> 
> You DO realize that as you say this:
> 
> 1. Mac market share has been steadily rising.
> 
> 2. People have been saying "Apple is doomed!" for close to twenty years.

3. The prices are higher than a cheapo no-name Windows box, but
   you (usually) get better quality and more equipment. If you 
   actually compare the same specifications, the Mac isn't 
   really more expensive than a Windows PC. (The Mac is even
   less expensive if you include the cost, monetary and / or
   time, of trying to deal with all the idiotic malware!)

4. Technically a Windows PC can run many OSes as well, including
   Mac OS X, but it's against the legal agreement you "sign" to
   install it on non-Apple machines.

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#50323

In article <221020131854170095%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> 4. Technically a Windows PC can run many OSes as well, including
>    Mac OS X, but it's against the legal agreement you "sign" to
>    install it on non-Apple machines.

macs can run many oses too, all legally.

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#50322

In article <alangbaker-5BF29A.22105421102013@news.shawcable.net>, Alan
Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:

> 2. People have been saying "Apple is doomed!" for close to twenty years.

more like 30 years.

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#50324

On 13-10-22 02:35, nospam wrote:

>> 2. People have been saying "Apple is doomed!" for close to twenty years.
> 
> more like 30 years.


Apple was doomed probably between 1988 and 1997. Since 1997, the "doom"
metre has gone down quite a bit.  But Apple walks a very precarious line
because in this business, it doesn't take a big mistake to send a leader
company to the bottom (Blackberry for instance).

With expectations now more in line with reality in terms of evolutive
instead of revolutionary product improvements, the "doom" is down, but
people still wonder if Apple can keep its 20 to 40% share depending on
where in the world and who you talk to.

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#50363

In article <5266260f$0$1336$c3e8da3$b1356c67@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 13-10-22 02:35, nospam wrote:
> 
> >> 2. People have been saying "Apple is doomed!" for close to twenty years.
> > 
> > more like 30 years.
> 
> 
> Apple was doomed probably between 1988 and 1997. Since 1997, the "doom"
> metre has gone down quite a bit.  But Apple walks a very precarious line
> because in this business, it doesn't take a big mistake to send a leader
> company to the bottom (Blackberry for instance).

Blackberry's "mistake" was a lazy managemant who sat on their backsides
and gobbled up piles of money into their own pockets while not actually
doing any work or producing almost nothing new. Then along came the
iPhone and they sat there like stunned fish trying to figure out what
happened. By the time they even remotely got their act together it was
already too lte.

Mismangament - basically the same "mistake" that killed Commodore
Computers and many other companies.




> With expectations now more in line with reality in terms of evolutive
> instead of revolutionary product improvements, the "doom" is down, but
> people still wonder if Apple can keep its 20 to 40% share depending on
> where in the world and who you talk to.

Apple itself has never really been interested in market share. With
their huge bank balance, they could ALMOST simply give Macs and iOS
devices away for free if they purely wanted market share. They would
still make massive profits on the App Store purchases, etc.

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