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How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth

Started byElectric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid>
First post2015-01-21 13:10 -0800
Last post2015-01-21 23:14 -0500
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  How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-01-21 13:10 -0800
    Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-21 16:15 -0500
      Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-01-21 18:27 -0800
        Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-21 23:14 -0500
        Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-01-22 06:57 -0800
    Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-22 13:49 +1300
      Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-01-21 20:26 -0500
        Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-22 01:42 +0000
          Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-01-23 00:30 +0000
        Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-22 02:07 +0000
        Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Wilbur Eleven <wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> - 2015-01-22 12:15 -0500
        Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-01-22 10:49 -0800
          Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-22 14:13 -0500
          Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-23 09:01 +1300
            Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-22 15:06 -0500
            Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-22 21:24 +0000
          Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-01-22 16:39 -0600
            Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-22 18:49 -0500
      Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-01-21 18:26 -0800
        Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-21 23:14 -0500
        Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-22 18:33 +1300
          Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-22 00:52 -0500
          Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-01-21 22:44 -0800
            Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-22 02:05 -0500
            Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-01-22 07:03 -0800
            Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-23 09:11 +1300
            Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-01-23 12:15 +1300
              Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-22 23:31 +0000
              Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-23 13:16 +1300
          Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth rcp27g@gmail.com - 2015-01-22 07:25 -0800
            Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> - 2015-01-22 08:19 -0800
              Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-22 17:41 +0000
              Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth rcp27g@gmail.com - 2015-01-23 04:49 -0800
                Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-24 10:22 +1300
      Re: How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-21 23:14 -0500

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#68619 — How to download yosemite but limit bandwidth

FromElectric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid>
Date2015-01-21 13:10 -0800
SubjectHow to download yosemite but limit bandwidth
Message-ID<m9p4pb$59c$1@dont-email.me>
Is there any way to DL yosemite and limit the rate? I skipped mavericks
just due to the size of the DL and limited bandwidth.






 
















































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#68622

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-01-21 16:15 -0500
Message-ID<210120151615139262%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#68619
In article <m9p4pb$59c$1@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet
<electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:

> Is there any way to DL yosemite and limit the rate? I skipped mavericks
> just due to the size of the DL and limited bandwidth.

if our router supports qos, limit it there, or just download it
overnight when it won't matter.

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#68643

FromElectric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid>
Date2015-01-21 18:27 -0800
Message-ID<m9pnae$kke$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68622
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 16:15:13 -0500
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> if our router supports qos, limit it there, or just download it
> overnight when it won't matter.

Niether solution applies here.








 









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#68648

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-01-21 23:14 -0500
Message-ID<210120152314288545%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#68643
In article <m9pnae$kke$9@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet
<electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:

> > if our router supports qos, limit it there, or just download it
> > overnight when it won't matter.
> 
> Niether solution applies here.

why not? don't you sleep?

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#68662

FromMichael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Date2015-01-22 06:57 -0800
Message-ID<vilain-275B7A.06575422012015@news.individual.net>
In reply to#68643
In article <m9pnae$kke$9@dont-email.me>,
 Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 16:15:13 -0500
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > if our router supports qos, limit it there, or just download it
> > overnight when it won't matter.
> 
> Niether solution applies here.

If you're not near an Apple store or a library with Broadband, then 
you'll have to buy a disk somehow.  Unless Apple doesn't offer that 
option any more, in which case you won't be upgrading.

-- 
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[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]

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#68636

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2015-01-22 13:49 +1300
Message-ID<220120151349229975%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#68619
In article <m9p4pb$59c$1@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet
<electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:
> 
> Is there any way to DL yosemite and limit the rate? I skipped mavericks
> just due to the size of the DL and limited bandwidth.

Most Apple Stores and resellers will download (or already have it to
install) the updater for you ... some for free and others for a small
fee.

The growing insistence on downloading everything from the internet is
extremely annoying.

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#68637

FromDavoud <star@sky.net>
Date2015-01-21 20:26 -0500
Message-ID<210120152026395538%star@sky.net>
In reply to#68636
Your Name:
> The growing insistence on downloading everything from the internet is
> extremely annoying.

With due respect and sympathy for those who do not have fast broadband
connections, the growing capability to download everything via the
Internet is a wonderful thing.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#68638

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-01-22 01:42 +0000
Message-ID<cib2rvFkcgpU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68637
On 2015-01-22, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
> Your Name:
>> The growing insistence on downloading everything from the internet is
>> extremely annoying.
>
> With due respect and sympathy for those who do not have fast broadband
> connections, the growing capability to download everything via the
> Internet is a wonderful thing.

Those are my sentiments. It's extremely convenient for those of us with
constant fast connections. And putting it on a USB stick is trivial, if
you really need to take it with you somewhere.

-- 
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JR

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#68710

From"John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net>
Date2015-01-23 00:30 +0000
Message-ID<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-dOrPyqC9bPS1@localhost>
In reply to#68638
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 01:42:23 UTC, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
wrote:

> On 2015-01-22, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
> > Your Name:
> >> The growing insistence on downloading everything from the internet is
> >> extremely annoying.
> >
> > With due respect and sympathy for those who do not have fast broadband
> > connections, the growing capability to download everything via the
> > Internet is a wonderful thing.
> 
> Those are my sentiments. It's extremely convenient for those of us with
> constant fast connections. And putting it on a USB stick is trivial, if
> you really need to take it with you somewhere.
 
I put it on a stick so I can download it once and then update two 
computers without having to make a second download.

-- 
John Varela

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#68639

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2015-01-22 02:07 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmc0mrt.q0o.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#68637
Okay, so one time? In band camp? Davoud <star@sky.net> was all, like:
> Your Name:
>> The growing insistence on downloading everything from the internet is
>> extremely annoying.

> With due respect and sympathy for those who do not have fast broadband
> connections, the growing capability to download everything via the
> Internet is a wonderful thing.

I love not having several shelves dedicated to boxed software. Even
better is not having to carry a "wallet" of my favorite games when I
travel.

-- 
http://2blog.kreme.com

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#68672

FromWilbur Eleven <wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us>
Date2015-01-22 12:15 -0500
Message-ID<m9rb81$6ub$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#68637
In article <210120152026395538%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
wrote:

> Your Name:
> > The growing insistence on downloading everything from the internet is
> > extremely annoying.
> 
> With due respect and sympathy for those who do not have fast broadband
> connections, the growing capability to download everything via the
> Internet is a wonderful thing.

Yeah, I have a buddy with _all_ of the Oscar best-picture nominees!!!1!

-- 

Fine then, I'm drinking coffee and rolling cigarettes and looking 
out at the hot baked street and a lady just walked by wiggling it 
in tight white pants, and we are not dead yet.

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#68684

FromElectric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid>
Date2015-01-22 10:49 -0800
Message-ID<m9rgrs$mgb$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68637
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 20:26:39 -0500
Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:

> With due respect and sympathy for those who do not have fast broadband
> connections, the growing capability to download everything via the
> Internet is a wonderful thing.

It's amazing how we are in the year twenty-fifteen, 2015,
two-zero-one-five and we don't all have  gigabit speeds up/down.

Why is that? Hmmm, let's see who wouldn't want that? No one I know
personally.

What technical reasons prevent that?

The answer is that the current providers don't want to be relegated
to being just bandwidth providers. They want to think of themselves
as content providers. But eventually they will have to put on the
orange safety vest and just stand there watching the traffic go
by on the cheap.


But to the original message. Apple just needs to provide a link
to the download and then we can DL at our pace.



  








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#68685

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-01-22 14:13 -0500
Message-ID<220120151413224562%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#68684
In article <m9rgrs$mgb$6@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet
<electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:

> > With due respect and sympathy for those who do not have fast broadband
> > connections, the growing capability to download everything via the
> > Internet is a wonderful thing.
> 
> It's amazing how we are in the year twenty-fifteen, 2015,
> two-zero-one-five and we don't all have  gigabit speeds up/down.

the vast majority do.

> Why is that? Hmmm, let's see who wouldn't want that? No one I know
> personally.
> 
> What technical reasons prevent that?

it's a business reason. 

major cities have all the bandwidth anyone wants to pay for.

rural areas generally don't because there aren't enough people to make
it worthwhile to offer it. 

> But to the original message. Apple just needs to provide a link
> to the download and then we can DL at our pace.

apple did exactly that.

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#68692

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2015-01-23 09:01 +1300
Message-ID<230120150901045091%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#68684
In article <m9rgrs$mgb$6@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet
<electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 20:26:39 -0500
> Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
> 
> > With due respect and sympathy for those who do not have fast broadband
> > connections, the growing capability to download everything via the
> > Internet is a wonderful thing.
> 
> It's amazing how we are in the year twenty-fifteen, 2015,
> two-zero-one-five and we don't all have  gigabit speeds up/down.

Forget gigbit interent ... where's our personal jetpacks,
hover-skateboards, flying cars, full-meal-pills, ...??   ;-)




> Why is that? Hmmm, let's see who wouldn't want that? No one I know
> personally.
> 
> What technical reasons prevent that?

For some people it's a matter of cost. Personally I still pay NZ$20 a
month for a dial-up connection, whereas even the cheapest broadband
connection is around NZ$70 per month.

For other people it can be a matter of location. Many places still
can't get broadband - people living on farms for example.

For most city people, the speed is often dependant on the distance from
the exchange and the number of other people using the same physical
connection.




> The answer is that the current providers don't want to be relegated
> to being just bandwidth providers. They want to think of themselves
> as content providers. But eventually they will have to put on the
> orange safety vest and just stand there watching the traffic go
> by on the cheap.

The Government here in New Zealand is paying to have fibre-optic
cabling installed in the cities and broadband copper wiring to farms.
But these fibre connections are artificially slowed down to low speeds,
partly depending on what you're willing to pay (higher speeds cost
more) and partly with an increase in speed planned for the future.



> But to the original message. Apple just needs to provide a link
> to the download and then we can DL at our pace.

Apple *needs* to release OS X on DVD or USB drives. This every-growing
reliance on internet everything is a pain in the backside.

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#68694

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-01-22 15:06 -0500
Message-ID<220120151506346095%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#68692
In article <230120150901045091%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> Apple *needs* to release OS X on DVD or USB drives. 

no they don't. 

when they offered lion on usb sticks, almost nobody bought it.

there's no point in bothering.

> This every-growing
> reliance on internet everything is a pain in the backside.

nonsense. it's *so* much more convenient.

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#68700

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2015-01-22 21:24 +0000
Message-ID<cid84pF76n9U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#68692
On 2015-01-22, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>
> Apple *needs* to release OS X on DVD or USB drives. This every-growing
> reliance on internet everything is a pain in the backside.

Disagree. I've got no problem what-so-ever with it being electronically
delivered. I know I'm not alone.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#68703

FromDavid Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
Date2015-01-22 16:39 -0600
Message-ID<alpine.OSX.2.11.1501221609240.11245@mako.ath.cx>
In reply to#68684
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On Thursday, 22 January 2015 10:49 -0800, 
 in article <m9rgrs$mgb$6@dont-email.me>, 
 Electric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:

> But to the original message. Apple just needs to provide a link to 
> the download and then we can DL at our pace.

Apple does supply a link for a Yosemite download.  It directs to the 
App Store.app.  The only way to legally acquire a release version of 
Yosemite, is to download it via this application.

<http://www.apple.com/osx/>
<https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=915041082&mt=12&ls=1>

The App Store.app became available in the last version of OS X Snow 
Leopard, 10.6.8.  If you have not updated to at least this version, 
you'll need to begin by purchasing a Snow Leopard install disk.  This 
was the last OS X version to be available on disk.

 <http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard>

- From OS 10.6.8 onward, one may update directly to OS X 10.10.x, using 
the App Store.app while using a registered App Store/iTunes account, 
assuming the hardware meets the OS requirements.

You may not like this, but it's the way things work in the real world.

P.S. Do be aware that when you're setting up your registration, you 
are required to provide an email address.  On this page, there's a 
pre-ticked box, regarding receiving email updates and marketing 
communications.  If you do not wish to receive this type of mail, do 
make certain that you un-tick the selection.

HTH.  HAND.

- -- 
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
 Be kind to animals; kiss a shark.

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#68707

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-01-22 18:49 -0500
Message-ID<54c18ca1$0$1149$b1db1813$7968482@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#68703
In article <alpine.OSX.2.11.1501221609240.11245@mako.ath.cx>,
 David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

> - From OS 10.6.8 onward, one may update directly to OS X 10.10.x, using 
> the App Store.app while using a registered App Store/iTunes account, 
> assuming the hardware meets the OS requirements.
> 

I've done that when I wanted to test Yosemite (I installed it clean on 
an external drive); I also made a Yosemite boot stick, and installed a 
Yosemite boot partition on my Mavericks laptop.

http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201372

> You may not like this, but it's the way things work in the real world.

My Linux distro (Arch) is installed via PXE:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preboot_Execution_Environment
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
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#68642

FromElectric Comet <electric-comet@mail.invalid>
Date2015-01-21 18:26 -0800
Message-ID<m9pn8g$kke$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#68636
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 13:49:22 +1300
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> Most Apple Stores and resellers will download (or already have it to
> install) the updater for you ... some for free and others for a small
> fee.

On to a usb drive or ?? You mean bring the mac somewhere and have them
install it? That won't happen.


> 
> The growing insistence on downloading everything from the internet is
> extremely annoying.

It's not realistic.

I will probably just stick with what I've got.


I'm just the computer maintainer and like linux so all this apple
stuff just seems like marketeers have taken over but maybe there
are good reasons that I can't see. But why not sell the os dvds on
the store? It took me forever just to figure that much out, they
don't sell current os dvds.









 










 



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#68647

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-01-21 23:14 -0500
Message-ID<210120152314278498%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#68642
In article <m9pn8g$kke$8@dont-email.me>, Electric Comet
<electric-comet@mail.invalid> wrote:

> > Most Apple Stores and resellers will download (or already have it to
> > install) the updater for you ... some for free and others for a small
> > fee.
> 
> On to a usb drive or ?? You mean bring the mac somewhere and have them
> install it? That won't happen.

bring the usb stick to the apple store (or a library computer or coffee
shop or wherever).

> > 
> > The growing insistence on downloading everything from the internet is
> > extremely annoying.
> 
> It's not realistic.

it's very realistic.

> I will probably just stick with what I've got.
> 
> 
> I'm just the computer maintainer and like linux so all this apple
> stuff just seems like marketeers have taken over but maybe there
> are good reasons that I can't see. But why not sell the os dvds on
> the store?

did you download a linux distro or did you buy a linux dvd in a store?
why the double-standard?

in any event dvds are old school and macs don't have optical drives
anymore anyway.

apple did sell lion on a usb stick and almost nobody bought it that
way. everyone downloaded it instead. there's no point in making
something nobody wants, so apple no longer does that anymore.

> It took me forever just to figure that much out, they
> don't sell current os dvds.

seriously?

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