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  remove the Finder from the Dock? bob smith <bob@coolfone.comze.com> - 2013-07-16 18:00 -0700
    Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-07-16 23:02 -0400
    Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? John White <jccw@jccw.removeme.org> - 2013-07-17 07:49 -0400
      Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-07-17 22:04 +0000
        Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-07-17 15:46 -0700
        Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-07-18 12:20 +1200
        Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-07-18 10:28 +1000
        Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-07-17 20:29 -0400
        Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2013-07-17 21:50 -0400
          Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? "R. Scanlon" <rscanlon@oldmanscanlon.com> - 2013-07-17 23:26 -0400
            Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-07-19 19:05 +0200
        Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? Nrdo Hessön <popenrdo@yahoo.com> - 2013-07-17 18:52 -0700
        Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-07-19 15:49 -0700
          Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? Jim Jaeger <jimjaeger@example.com> - 2013-07-21 20:35 -0700
            Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-07-23 07:38 -0700
      Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-07-18 20:38 -0400
        Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-07-19 17:44 +1000
          Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-07-19 17:03 -0400
            Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-07-20 18:29 +0000
          Re: remove the Finder from the Dock? M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-07-19 22:31 -0400

#46776 — remove the Finder from the Dock?

Is there any way to remove the Finder from the Dock?

The Finder has been very slow on Mountain Lion and I'd rather not be tempted to click on it.

Thanks.

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#46777

bob smith:

> Is there any way to remove the Finder from the Dock?
> 
> The Finder has been very slow on Mountain Lion and I'd rather not be tempted
> to click on it.

If you can't resist the urge to click on the Finder icon in the Dock
just because it's there, this is not a computer problem; it may be
treatable compulsive behaviour.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#46780

In article <bc19f0f8-7fa6-427f-aba5-d263046fbd3c@googlegroups.com>,
 bob smith <bob@coolfone.comze.com> wrote:

> Is there any way to remove the Finder from the Dock?
> 
> The Finder has been very slow on Mountain Lion and I'd rather not be tempted 
> to click on it.
> 
> Thanks.

The more interesting question is "why is the Finder very slow on your 
machine?" Do you have "Calculate all sizes" turned on in the View 
Options? (That's a well-known source of Finder sluggishness, at least in 
older versions of OS X).

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#46784

John White <jccw@jccw.removeme.org> wrote:
>  bob smith <bob@coolfone.comze.com> wrote:
> > Is there any way to remove the Finder from the Dock?
> > The Finder has been very slow on Mountain Lion and I'd rather not be tempted 
> The more interesting question is "why is the Finder

What is it about Finder that has people wanting to put the word "The" in 
front of it? I never hear "The Mail" "The Automator" "The Calendar" "The 
Safari" or "The Contacts". 

If Finder was a country it would be Ukraine.

-- 
K.

Lang may your lum reek.

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#46785

In article <ks74d3$n2e$1@dont-email.me>, me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) 
wrote:

> > > Is there any way to remove the Finder from the Dock? The Finder has 
> > > been very slow on Mountain Lion and I'd rather not be tempted 
> > The more interesting question is "why is the Finder
> 
> What is it about Finder that has people wanting to put the word "The" in 
> front of it? I never hear "The Mail" "The Automator" "The Calendar" "The 
> Safari" or "The Contacts". 

It's like The Bronx.

-- 
All usenet users are quirky, but some are more quirky than others.

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#46788

Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote:

> John White <jccw@jccw.removeme.org> wrote:
> >  bob smith <bob@coolfone.comze.com> wrote:
> > > Is there any way to remove the Finder from the Dock?
> > > The Finder has been very slow on Mountain Lion and I'd rather not be
> > > tempted
> > The more interesting question is "why is the Finder
> 
> What is it about Finder that has people wanting to put the word "The" in
> front of it? I never hear "The Mail" "The Automator" "The Calendar" "The
> Safari" or "The Contacts". 

Perhaps because Finder is a feature of the OS which is always running
(under normal conditions), like "The Desktop", "The Dock", "The Apple
Menu" and "The Menu Bar".

I haven't heard "the" in front of other standard features like "System
Preferences", "Spotlight", "Mission Control", "LaunchPad".

I think the distinction is whether the word is regarded as a name or a
description. Some people think of "Finder" as the name of an
application, whereas "The Finder" is derived from its functionality.

I'd normally use "Finder" but might occasionally refer to it as "the
Finder", especially in response to someone who has just used that form.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#46789

In article <ks74d3$n2e$1@dont-email.me>,
 me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) wrote:

> What is it about Finder that has people wanting to put the word "The" in 
> front of it?

Because it is a particularly unique program at the heart of the OS, 
use of "the" connotes a knowing familiarity, ... still, your question 
is not too bad a one! By the way, in the subject, the word was spelt 
with a small "t", not quite the same thing ("The" would suggest actual 
confusion with the name of Finder).

-- 
dorayme

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#46790

Király:
> What is it about Finder that has people wanting to put the word "The" in 
> front of it? I never hear "The Mail" "The Automator" "The Calendar" "The 
> Safari" or "The Contacts". 
 
> If Finder was a country it would be Ukraine.

Perhaps, if it wasn't The Sudan or The Yemen, The United Arab Emirates,
The United Kingdom, The United States, The Congo, or The Netherlands.

The answer to your question is that The Mail, The Automator, The
Safari, and some others don't sound quite right. "The Finder" sounds
just fine, but if you disagree, then you should most certainly call it
"Finder."

Sometimes omitting "the" can make for a clumsy sentence. "What time is
the Smith's party?" "I forget. Check Calendar." Not so good, IMO. "I
forget. Check the Calendar." "To copy a file, you must first open
Finder." Acceptable, perhaps, but "To copy a file, you must first open
the Finder" sounds better to me.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#46792

In article <ks74d3$n2e$1@dont-email.me>, me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) 
wrote:

> John White <jccw@jccw.removeme.org> wrote:
> >  bob smith <bob@coolfone.comze.com> wrote:
> > > Is there any way to remove the Finder from the Dock?
> > > The Finder has been very slow on Mountain Lion and I'd rather not be 
> > > tempted 
> > The more interesting question is "why is the Finder
> 
> What is it about Finder that has people wanting to put the word "The" in 
> front of it? I never hear "The Mail" "The Automator" "The Calendar" "The 
> Safari" or "The Contacts". 
> 
> If Finder was a country it would be Ukraine.

I think it's the "er" ending. If Mail were called Mailer, I think people 
might call it "the Mailer" (in fact, this expression is often used to 
refer to the mail daemon that runs on servers). When a term describes 
what someone does, we often refer to them with an article, as in "call 
the plumber to fix the pipe."

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#46795

In article 
<barmar-9AACD6.21503817072013@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> In article <ks74d3$n2e$1@dont-email.me>, me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) 
> wrote:
> 
> > John White <jccw@jccw.removeme.org> wrote:
> > >  bob smith <bob@coolfone.comze.com> wrote:
> > > > Is there any way to remove the Finder from the Dock?
> > > > The Finder has been very slow on Mountain Lion and I'd rather not be 
> > > > tempted 
> > > The more interesting question is "why is the Finder
> > 
> > What is it about Finder that has people wanting to put the word "The" in 
> > front of it? I never hear "The Mail" "The Automator" "The Calendar" "The 
> > Safari" or "The Contacts". 
> > 
> > If Finder was a country it would be Ukraine.
> 
> I think it's the "er" ending. If Mail were called Mailer, I think people 
> might call it "the Mailer" (in fact, this expression is often used to 
> refer to the mail daemon that runs on servers). When a term describes 
> what someone does, we often refer to them with an article, as in "call 
> the plumber to fix the pipe."

I think you've got it. There was also, IIRC, the Chooser. 
But definitely not the Tetris.

-- 
Ray Scanlon

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#46869

In article <rscanlon-A868C8.23260117072013@news.eternal-september.org>,
 "R. Scanlon" <rscanlon@oldmanscanlon.com> wrote:

> In article 
> <barmar-9AACD6.21503817072013@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> 
> > In article <ks74d3$n2e$1@dont-email.me>, me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > John White <jccw@jccw.removeme.org> wrote:
> > > >  bob smith <bob@coolfone.comze.com> wrote:
> > > > > Is there any way to remove the Finder from the Dock?
> > > > > The Finder has been very slow on Mountain Lion and I'd rather not be 
> > > > > tempted 
> > > > The more interesting question is "why is the Finder
> > > 
> > > What is it about Finder that has people wanting to put the word "The" in 
> > > front of it? I never hear "The Mail" "The Automator" "The Calendar" "The 
> > > Safari" or "The Contacts". 
> > > 
> > > If Finder was a country it would be Ukraine.
> > 
> > I think it's the "er" ending. If Mail were called Mailer, I think people 
> > might call it "the Mailer" (in fact, this expression is often used to 
> > refer to the mail daemon that runs on servers). When a term describes 
> > what someone does, we often refer to them with an article, as in "call 
> > the plumber to fix the pipe."
> 
> I think you've got it. There was also, IIRC, the Chooser. 
> But definitely not the Tetris.

Interesting theory.

Do folks in the Windows world say "The Explorer"?

-- 
Paul Sture

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#46793

In article <ks74d3$n2e$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
wrote:

> John White <jccw@jccw.removeme.org> wrote:
> >  bob smith <bob@coolfone.comze.com> wrote:
> > > Is there any way to remove the Finder from the Dock?
> > > The Finder has been very slow on Mountain Lion and I'd rather not be
> > > tempted 
> > The more interesting question is "why is the Finder
> 
> What is it about Finder that has people wanting to put the word "The" in 
> front of it? I never hear "The Mail" "The Automator" "The Calendar" "The 
> Safari" or "The Contacts". 
> 
> If Finder was a country it would be Ukraine.

amen brother

i hate "the earth" instead of Earth
nobody says the Jupiter or the Mars

-- 
if you know who you are,                                 Nrdo Hesson
   you know who i am.                             popenrdo@yahoo.com

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#46880

In article <ks74d3$n2e$1@dont-email.me>, me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) 
wrote:

> John White <jccw@jccw.removeme.org> wrote:
> >  bob smith <bob@coolfone.comze.com> wrote:
> > > Is there any way to remove the Finder from the Dock?
> > > The Finder has been very slow on Mountain Lion and I'd rather not be 
> > > tempted 
> > The more interesting question is "why is the Finder
> 
> What is it about Finder that has people wanting to put the word "The" in 
> front of it? I never hear "The Mail" "The Automator" "The Calendar" "The 
> Safari" or "The Contacts". 
> 
> If Finder was a country it would be Ukraine.

I'm pretty sure I recall Apple calling it "the Finder" when it first 
came to be, no?

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#46948

In article <jollyroger-1F7AC4.15490119072013@news.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>I'm pretty sure I recall Apple calling it "the Finder" when it first 
>came to be, no?

The earliest reference I find to the function is in "Macintosh Technical 
Note #28", written on May 7, 1984 and updated on March 1, 1988. This 
document refers to "Finder" when referring to specific versions, 
"Finders 4.1 and newer issue...", and to "the Finder" when discussing 
the function generically, as in "The Finder will clean up the disk..."

The next TechNote, #29, is entitled "The Finder Interface".

My earliest software documentation is Microsoft Office 5.0, from 1992. 
This, also, refers to both "Finder" and "the Finder". 

From my reading, I draw four conclusions:
1.) Citing historical usage will probably lead to a flame war.
2.) We are probably safe using either method to refer to the software.
3.) Someone who spends his time searching for information like this 
    probably has too few worthwhile things to do.
4.) TechNote #31, "The DogCow" hearkens back to a time when using the
    Mac was a lot more light-hearted.

jim

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#46983

In article 
<jimjaeger-D6D7EF.20350721072013@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Jim Jaeger <jimjaeger@example.com> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-1F7AC4.15490119072013@news.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> >I'm pretty sure I recall Apple calling it "the Finder" when it first 
> >came to be, no?
> 
> The earliest reference I find to the function is in "Macintosh Technical 
> Note #28", written on May 7, 1984 and updated on March 1, 1988. This 
> document refers to "Finder" when referring to specific versions, 
> "Finders 4.1 and newer issue...", and to "the Finder" when discussing 
> the function generically, as in "The Finder will clean up the disk..."
> 
> The next TechNote, #29, is entitled "The Finder Interface".
> 
> My earliest software documentation is Microsoft Office 5.0, from 1992. 
> This, also, refers to both "Finder" and "the Finder". 
> 
> From my reading, I draw four conclusions:
> 1.) Citing historical usage will probably lead to a flame war.
> 2.) We are probably safe using either method to refer to the software.
> 3.) Someone who spends his time searching for information like this 
>     probably has too few worthwhile things to do.
> 4.) TechNote #31, "The DogCow" hearkens back to a time when using the
>     Mac was a lot more light-hearted.
> 
> jim

Indeed. *thumbs up*

-- 
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E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM
filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting
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Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts.

JR

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#46840

In article <jccw-46CD1F.07495717072013@news.eternal-september.org>,
 John White <jccw@jccw.removeme.org> wrote:

> In article <bc19f0f8-7fa6-427f-aba5-d263046fbd3c@googlegroups.com>,
>  bob smith <bob@coolfone.comze.com> wrote:
> 
> > Is there any way to remove the Finder from the Dock?
> > 
> > The Finder has been very slow on Mountain Lion and I'd rather not be 
> > tempted 
> > to click on it.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> 
> The more interesting question is "why is the Finder very slow on your 
> machine?" Do you have "Calculate all sizes" turned on in the View 
> Options? (That's a well-known source of Finder sluggishness, at least in 
> older versions of OS X).


I find that emptying the cache folders in /Library and /user/Library 
helps slow computers a lot. After a while they accumulate thousands of 
useless files.

-- 
m-m
Photo Gallery:
http://www.mhmyers.com

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#46859

In article 
<nospam.m-m-3E1B15.20384318072013@cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com>,
 M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote:

> I find that emptying the cache folders in /Library and /user/Library 
> helps slow computers a lot. After a while they accumulate thousands of 
> useless files.

In my /Library, there is 647 KB, in my user/library there is 1.75 GB 
(half a GB from Safari!, web page previews counting for nearly 300MB 
(jpgs and pngs mainly). Not sure why they would bother Finder though, 
unless they are taking up so much space on the HD that it influences 
use of the HD for virtual memory tasks. 

Do you clean them out manually (like I just deleted all the web 
previews because I was there and felt like it)?

-- 
dorayme

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#46872

On 2013.07.19 03:44 , dorayme wrote:
> In article
> <nospam.m-m-3E1B15.20384318072013@cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com>,
>   M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote:
>
>> I find that emptying the cache folders in /Library and /user/Library
>> helps slow computers a lot. After a while they accumulate thousands of
>> useless files.
>
> In my /Library, there is 647 KB, in my user/library there is 1.75 GB
> (half a GB from Safari!, web page previews counting for nearly 300MB
> (jpgs and pngs mainly). Not sure why they would bother Finder though,
> unless they are taking up so much space on the HD that it influences
> use of the HD for virtual memory tasks.

It's not the amount of data that slows things down but the number of 
files in the folder(s).

> Do you clean them out manually (like I just deleted all the web
> previews because I was there and felt like it)?

A tool like Onyx will do it for you as well as some other cleanup tasks.




-- 
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media,
which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."
                                                  -Unknown

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#46912

In message <6cedndO8150CNHTMnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@giganews.com> 
  Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2013.07.19 03:44 , dorayme wrote:
>> In article
>> <nospam.m-m-3E1B15.20384318072013@cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com>,
>>   M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote:
>>
>>> I find that emptying the cache folders in /Library and /user/Library
>>> helps slow computers a lot. After a while they accumulate thousands of
>>> useless files.
>>
>> In my /Library, there is 647 KB, in my user/library there is 1.75 GB
>> (half a GB from Safari!, web page previews counting for nearly 300MB
>> (jpgs and pngs mainly). Not sure why they would bother Finder though,
>> unless they are taking up so much space on the HD that it influences
>> use of the HD for virtual memory tasks.

> It's not the amount of data that slows things down but the number of 
> files in the folder(s).

>> Do you clean them out manually (like I just deleted all the web
>> previews because I was there and felt like it)?

> A tool like Onyx will do it for you as well as some other cleanup tasks.

It may make you feel better, but it will not impact your system's
performance.

-- 
Seeing, contrary to popular wisdom, isn't believing. It's where belief
stops, because it isn't needed any more. --Pyramids

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#46889

In article <dorayme-1C2706.17442319072013@news.albasani.net>,
 dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> In article 
> <nospam.m-m-3E1B15.20384318072013@cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com>,
>  M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> wrote:
> 
> > I find that emptying the cache folders in /Library and /user/Library 
> > helps slow computers a lot. After a while they accumulate thousands of 
> > useless files.
> 
> In my /Library, there is 647 KB, in my user/library there is 1.75 GB 
> (half a GB from Safari!, web page previews counting for nearly 300MB 
> (jpgs and pngs mainly). Not sure why they would bother Finder though, 
> unless they are taking up so much space on the HD that it influences 
> use of the HD for virtual memory tasks. 
> 
> Do you clean them out manually (like I just deleted all the web 
> previews because I was there and felt like it)?


I just delete everything in the cache folders. Cmd-A; Cmd-delete; 
restart; empty trash.

I noticed on one of my computers, Safari was causing a lot of disk 
activity. Even on blank pages, the HD was constantly clicking. Not with 
Chrome. Emptying the cache folders solved it.

Also, I noticed that deleting these caches took away sluggishness in 
general. I never noticed anything negative from this action. I did not 
lose any passwords or preferences or settings in any application.

-- 
m-m
Photo Gallery:
http://www.mhmyers.com

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