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  Label colouring dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-14 21:36 +1000
    Re: Label colouring nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-04-14 09:34 -0400
      Re: Label colouring dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-15 02:21 +1000
    Re: Label colouring Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2012-04-14 14:45 +0100
      Re: Label colouring dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-15 02:38 +1000
    Re: Label colouring Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2012-04-14 07:48 -0700
    Re: Label colouring Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-14 11:53 -0400
      Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-14 08:55 -0700
        Re: Label colouring "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2012-04-15 19:45 +0000
      Re: Label colouring dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-15 02:42 +1000
      Re: Label colouring jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-04-16 18:57 +1200
        Re: Label colouring George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-16 10:09 -0500
        Re: Label colouring Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-04-16 15:28 +0000
          Re: Label colouring Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-16 16:48 -0400
            Re: Label colouring Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2012-04-16 17:11 -0400
              Re: Label colouring Joe Dee <joe@invalid.invalid> - 2012-04-16 18:31 -0400
                Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-16 15:33 -0700
                  Re: Label colouring Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-04-16 22:57 +0000
            Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-16 14:38 -0700
              Re: Label colouring jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-04-17 10:35 +1200
                Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-16 15:47 -0700
            Re: Label colouring Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-17 19:38 +0200
              Re: Label colouring HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-04-18 09:10 +1200
                Re: Label colouring dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-18 10:02 +1000
                Re: Label colouring Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-04-18 15:29 -0700
              Re: Label colouring Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-17 18:22 -0400
                Re: Label colouring Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-18 09:12 +0200
                  Re: Label colouring jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-04-19 02:24 +1200
        Re: Label colouring Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-16 11:31 -0400
          Re: Label colouring Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-16 19:36 -0400
            Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-16 16:48 -0700
            Re: Label colouring Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-18 09:19 +0200
              Re: Label colouring jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-04-19 02:24 +1200
                Re: Label colouring Sara <saramerriman@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-04-18 16:27 +0100
                  Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-18 08:37 -0700
                    Re: Label colouring "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> - 2012-04-18 15:19 -0400
                      Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-18 16:44 -0700
                        Re: Label colouring Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-04-18 23:48 +0000
                          Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-18 17:19 -0700
                            Re: Label colouring JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-04-18 21:42 -0400
                              Re: Label colouring Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-19 17:24 +0200
                  Re: Label colouring Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-18 22:53 -0400
                    Re: Label colouring Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-18 19:58 -0700
                      Re: Label colouring Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-04-19 03:37 +0000
                        Re: Label colouring Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-20 16:50 +0200
                          Re: Label colouring Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-04-20 16:28 +0000
                            Re: Label colouring JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-04-20 15:14 -0400
                            Re: Label colouring Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-21 14:12 +0200
                      Re: Label colouring Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2012-04-20 09:42 -0700
                        Re: Label colouring Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-24 15:42 -0400
                    Re: Label colouring jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-04-19 15:57 +1200
                      Re: Label colouring Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-19 17:18 +0200
                        Re: Label colouring TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft@me.com> - 2012-04-19 13:54 -0500
                          Re: Label colouring dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-20 08:55 +1000
                          Re: Label colouring Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-04-20 16:49 +0200
                    Re: Label colouring Sara <saramerriman@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-04-19 14:22 +0100
                      Re: Label colouring jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-04-20 03:49 +1200
                        Re: Label colouring Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-19 16:13 -0400
                      Re: Label colouring Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-04-19 13:48 -0400
                        Re: Label colouring Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-19 16:22 -0400
                          Re: Label colouring Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-20 12:40 -0400
                            Re: Label colouring Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2012-04-20 17:47 +0000
                              Re: Label colouring Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-21 11:45 -0400
            Re: Label colouring Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-04-19 13:52 -0400
              Re: Label colouring Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-19 16:28 -0400
                Re: Label colouring Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-04-19 17:12 -0400
                  Re: Label colouring nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-04-19 15:08 -0700
        Re: Label colouring Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2012-04-16 09:15 -0700
          Re: Label colouring jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2012-04-17 10:35 +1200
          Re: Label colouring paris2venice@gmail.com - 2012-04-17 15:31 -0700

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#23929

In article <1kioxzs.efts6s16l0khpN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> > You're making sense.  This is usenet, and making sense is not allowed. 
> > Give yourself twenty lashes with a wet noodle.
> > 
> > -- Michelle
> 
> Wet noodle lashing, eh lass? I guess it takes all types ;-)

It's the best kind of self flagellation.

-- 
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as 
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

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#23956

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:48:55 -0400, Davoud wrote:

> Jamie Kahn Genet:
>> >I don't get why the US felt it had to dumb down English *shrug*
> 
> /Colour/ is not smartened-up English. It is a relic of the days when
> French was the language of the English royal court.
> 
> The result of natural changes in the language is that the word now has
> two English spellings: /color/ and /colour/ .
> 
> Because no one in the Commonwealth or whose spelling of English is
> influenced by British English is going to drop the /u/ and no one who is
> influenced by American English is going to add it, and since the two
> words are mutually intelligible, it makes sense to get over it and get
> on with life.

Except for programming where we British English speaking folks have to 
adapt and use the established convention.

We are all allowed to hate "referer" in Apache log files of course :-)

<http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/referer>

"Common misspelling of referrer."



-- 
Paul Sture

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#23961

In article <tcm069-7v3.ln1@news.sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:48:55 -0400, Davoud wrote:
> > Jamie Kahn Genet:
> >> >I don't get why the US felt it had to dumb down English *shrug*
> > 
> > /Colour/ is not smartened-up English. It is a relic of the days when
> > French was the language of the English royal court.
> > 
> > The result of natural changes in the language is that the word now has
> > two English spellings: /color/ and /colour/ .
> > 
> > Because no one in the Commonwealth or whose spelling of English is
> > influenced by British English is going to drop the /u/ and no one who is
> > influenced by American English is going to add it, and since the two
> > words are mutually intelligible, it makes sense to get over it and get
> > on with life.
> 
> Except for programming where we British English speaking folks have to 
> adapt and use the established convention.
> 
> We are all allowed to hate "referer" in Apache log files of course :-)
> 
> <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/referer>
> 
> "Common misspelling of referrer."

The English created the language (yes, stealing words from various other
non-English languages), so they are the ones with the correct spelling.
The American changes should be made void since they are incorrect. It's
ridiculous having two versions of "English" (In fact in some software
there are more: Australian English, Canadian English, etc.) - non-English
speakers have a hard enough time learning English without this kind of
silliness.

More annoying is the instance of "aluminium" and "aluminum" (and there may
be other similar words) ... whoever discovered / named the material would
have included or not included the "i" and that is the correct spelling.
Whoever then decided they knew better and changed it is an idiot. Since
the other materials all have a "i" (chromium, titanium, etc.), I would
have to guess that including the "i" is the correct spelling, making the
American version incorrect, as usual.

Helpful Harry  :o)

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#23968

In article 
<HelpfulHarry-1804120910570001@203-118-187-44.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz>,
 HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) wrote:

> ..."aluminium" and "aluminum" (and there may
> be other similar words) ... whoever discovered / named the material would
> have included or not included the "i" and that is the correct spelling.

Well, that is about the silliest thing I have heard so far this week.

-- 
dorayme

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#24006

HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) writes:

> In article <tcm069-7v3.ln1@news.sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:48:55 -0400, Davoud wrote:
> > > Jamie Kahn Genet:
> > >> >I don't get why the US felt it had to dumb down English *shrug*
> > > 
> > > /Colour/ is not smartened-up English. It is a relic of the days when
> > > French was the language of the English royal court.
> > > 
> > > The result of natural changes in the language is that the word now has
> > > two English spellings: /color/ and /colour/ .
> > > 
> > > Because no one in the Commonwealth or whose spelling of English is
> > > influenced by British English is going to drop the /u/ and no one who is
> > > influenced by American English is going to add it, and since the two
> > > words are mutually intelligible, it makes sense to get over it and get
> > > on with life.
> > 
> > Except for programming where we British English speaking folks have to 
> > adapt and use the established convention.
> > 
> > We are all allowed to hate "referer" in Apache log files of course :-)
> > 
> > <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/referer>
> > 
> > "Common misspelling of referrer."
> 
> The English created the language (yes, stealing words from various other
> non-English languages), so they are the ones with the correct spelling.
> The American changes should be made void since they are incorrect. It's
> ridiculous having two versions of "English" (In fact in some software
> there are more: Australian English, Canadian English, etc.) - non-English
> speakers have a hard enough time learning English without this kind of
> silliness.

Except that fixing spelling in a static way is a recent invention and
has nothing to with creating the language, so your idea that there is
some original "correct" English spelling is nonsense.

Spelling in English was highly non-standardized and subject to change
with the fashions.

When Samuel Johnson tried (with some success) to make spelling
standard, it was already 1755 and England was no longer the only place
speaking English.

> More annoying is the instance of "aluminium" and "aluminum" (and there may
> be other similar words) ... whoever discovered / named the material would
> have included or not included the "i" and that is the correct spelling.
> Whoever then decided they knew better and changed it is an idiot. Since
> the other materials all have a "i" (chromium, titanium, etc.), I would
> have to guess that including the "i" is the correct spelling, making the
> American version incorrect, as usual.

"Correct?"  Sir Humphry Davy named it "alumium" first (OED citation
first in 1808) then changed it to "aluminum" (first OED citation in
1812).  Then other scientists started to use "aluminium" (having,
like you, forgotten about elements like "platinum"). 

Both aluminum and aluminium continued to be used in England throughout
the 1800s.

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#23963

Paul Sture:
> > Because no one in the Commonwealth or whose spelling of English is
> > influenced by British English is going to drop the /u/ and no one who is
> > influenced by American English is going to add it, and since the two
> > words are mutually intelligible, it makes sense to get over it and get
> > on with life.
> 
> Except for programming where we British English speaking folks have to 
> adapt and use the established convention.
> 
> We are all allowed to hate "referer" in Apache log files of course :-)
> 
> <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/referer>
> 
> "Common misspelling of referrer."

Referer is a misspelling in all varieties of English. Apache logs are
the product of geeks, Unix geeks no less. There goes the neighborhood.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#23972

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:22:17 -0400, Davoud wrote:

> Paul Sture:
>> > Because no one in the Commonwealth or whose spelling of English is
>> > influenced by British English is going to drop the /u/ and no one who
>> > is influenced by American English is going to add it, and since the
>> > two words are mutually intelligible, it makes sense to get over it
>> > and get on with life.
>> 
>> Except for programming where we British English speaking folks have to
>> adapt and use the established convention.
>> 
>> We are all allowed to hate "referer" in Apache log files of course :-)
>> 
>> <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/referer>
>> 
>> "Common misspelling of referrer."
> 
> Referer is a misspelling in all varieties of English. Apache logs are
> the product of geeks, Unix geeks no less. There goes the neighborhood.

What amazes me is that nobody appears to have made any effort to cope 
with both spellings.  It shouldn't be so hard to do.

-- 
Paul Sture

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#23982

Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 18:22:17 -0400, Davoud wrote:
> 
> > Paul Sture:
> >> > Because no one in the Commonwealth or whose spelling of English is
> >> > influenced by British English is going to drop the /u/ and no one who
> >> > is influenced by American English is going to add it, and since the
> >> > two words are mutually intelligible, it makes sense to get over it
> >> > and get on with life.
> >> 
> >> Except for programming where we British English speaking folks have to
> >> adapt and use the established convention.
> >> 
> >> We are all allowed to hate "referer" in Apache log files of course :-)
> >> 
> >> <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/referer>
> >> 
> >> "Common misspelling of referrer."
> > 
> > Referer is a misspelling in all varieties of English. Apache logs are
> > the product of geeks, Unix geeks no less. There goes the neighborhood.
> 
> What amazes me is that nobody appears to have made any effort to cope
> with both spellings.  It shouldn't be so hard to do.

How so?
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#23894

In article <1kinrar.jh0swuoam1dsN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> wrote:
> 
> > Well, dorayme, if you _spelled_ it correctly (coloring), it'd look much
> > more acceptable.  :-D
> 
> I don't get why the US felt it had to dumb down English *shrug*

Dumb down?!?! We're still fighting the British royal rococo language 
style, malord! 

Q. How may 'u's does are necessary to spell words ending in 'our'?
A. None.

Although I sincerely do admire a culture who can come up with these 
filigreed spellings and reduced pronunciations:
Grosvenor -> grovner
Featherstonehaugh -> fanshaw

Please pardon me while I don't tug my forelock.  ;)

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#23931

Fred:
> Although I sincerely do admire a culture who can come up with these 
> filigreed spellings and reduced pronunciations:
> Grosvenor -> grovner
> Featherstonehaugh -> fanshaw

> Please pardon me while I don't tug my forelock.  ;)

Not perfect examples, I think, because the shortening of Grosvenor is
typical/standard English (q.v. Worcester) and the second name--quite
rare--is pronounced by some who wear it (OK, one family in my
experience) as featherstun' haw or fers'tun haw. Haugh is an
anglicization of German "Hoch," /high/ in the same way as an ignorant
(or smug or jingoistic or spiteful or all of those and more)
immigration officer changed my grandfather's name from Bachmann to
Baughman.

The lang-u-age would be greatly impoverished if we had to take care to
pronounce ev-e-ry syl-la-bell!

Baltimore, Maryland: bal'mer

Détroit, Michigan: dee troyt

Des Moines, Iowa: de moyne or de moynes or dee moyne or dee moynes

Cairo, various states: kay roh

And my favorite, only because my dad, once a ship's pilot on the Great
Lakes, told me about it when I was very young:

Ile Aux Galets (island/lighthouse), Michigan: Skillagalee Island,
pronounced skilly-ga-lee by mariners at one time. My dad, who was not
well schooled in La Belle Langue, maintained that whoever drew the
navigation charts had no idea how to spell Skillygalee, which was
obviously an Indian name.

Now, please pardon me as I turn my baseball cap ;)

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#23932

In article <160420121936201660%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:

> The lang-u-age would be greatly impoverished if we had to take care to
> pronounce ev-e-ry syl-la-bell!
> 
> Baltimore, Maryland: bal'mer

Someone from there is a Baltimoron.

> Détroit, Michigan: dee troyt

Someone from there is Mishuginah.

-- Michelle

-- 
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as 
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

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#23974

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:36:20 -0400, Davoud wrote:

> Not perfect examples, I think, because the shortening of Grosvenor is
> typical/standard English (q.v. Worcester) and the second name--quite
> rare--is pronounced by some who wear it (OK, one family in my
> experience) as featherstun' haw or fers'tun haw. Haugh is an
> anglicization of German "Hoch," /high/ in the same way as an ignorant
> (or smug or jingoistic or spiteful or all of those and more) immigration
> officer changed my grandfather's name from Bachmann to Baughman.

There have been times when I wished my grandfather had changed his family 
name when he moved to the UK.  I've even had the stupid tell me I don't 
know how to spell it correctly.
 
> The lang-u-age would be greatly impoverished if we had to take care to
> pronounce ev-e-ry syl-la-bell!
> 
> Baltimore, Maryland: bal'mer
> 
> Détroit, Michigan: dee troyt

More recent examples arose in the UK when French breeds of cattle became 
popular. Charolais and Limousin became Chevrolet and Limousine for my 
then local (Yorkshire) farmers.

-- 
Paul Sture

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#23983

Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:36:20 -0400, Davoud wrote:
> 
> > Not perfect examples, I think, because the shortening of Grosvenor is
> > typical/standard English (q.v. Worcester) and the second name--quite
> > rare--is pronounced by some who wear it (OK, one family in my
> > experience) as featherstun' haw or fers'tun haw. Haugh is an
> > anglicization of German "Hoch," /high/ in the same way as an ignorant
> > (or smug or jingoistic or spiteful or all of those and more) immigration
> > officer changed my grandfather's name from Bachmann to Baughman.
> 
> There have been times when I wished my grandfather had changed his family
> name when he moved to the UK.  I've even had the stupid tell me I don't
> know how to spell it correctly.

Ah, I know the feeling. I still occasionally get people insisting my
name is really James *rolls eyes* I even sometimes have to state it says
Jamie on my birth certificate before they'll deal with it - it's amazing
how arrogant some people can be. And of course misspelling of my surname
runs rampant. That said I enjoy having more unusual names. I'd hate to
be John Smith. I like Jamie Kahn Genet :-)

> > The lang-u-age would be greatly impoverished if we had to take care to
> > pronounce ev-e-ry syl-la-bell!
> > 
> > Baltimore, Maryland: bal'mer
> > 
> > Détroit, Michigan: dee troyt
> 
> More recent examples arose in the UK when French breeds of cattle became
> popular. Charolais and Limousin became Chevrolet and Limousine for my
> then local (Yorkshire) farmers.

Heh.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#23987

In article <1kis0y7.1xy8osbth7cssN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
 jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote:

> Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:36:20 -0400, Davoud wrote:
> > 
> > > Not perfect examples, I think, because the shortening of Grosvenor is
> > > typical/standard English (q.v. Worcester) and the second name--quite
> > > rare--is pronounced by some who wear it (OK, one family in my
> > > experience) as featherstun' haw or fers'tun haw. Haugh is an
> > > anglicization of German "Hoch," /high/ in the same way as an ignorant
> > > (or smug or jingoistic or spiteful or all of those and more) immigration
> > > officer changed my grandfather's name from Bachmann to Baughman.
> > 
> > There have been times when I wished my grandfather had changed his family
> > name when he moved to the UK.  I've even had the stupid tell me I don't
> > know how to spell it correctly.
> 
> Ah, I know the feeling. I still occasionally get people insisting my
> name is really James *rolls eyes* I even sometimes have to state it says
> Jamie on my birth certificate before they'll deal with it - it's amazing
> how arrogant some people can be. And of course misspelling of my surname
> runs rampant. That said I enjoy having more unusual names. I'd hate to
> be John Smith. I like Jamie Kahn Genet :-)
> 
> > > The lang-u-age would be greatly impoverished if we had to take care to
> > > pronounce ev-e-ry syl-la-bell!
> > > 
> > > Baltimore, Maryland: bal'mer
> > > 
> > > Détroit, Michigan: dee troyt
> > 
> > More recent examples arose in the UK when French breeds of cattle became
> > popular. Charolais and Limousin became Chevrolet and Limousine for my
> > then local (Yorkshire) farmers.
> 
> Heh.

I get enough problems with people always adding an 'h' to my name.

-- 
Sara

Cats cats cats cats

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#23990

In article 
<saramerriman-A7FEDF.16275718042012@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Sara <saramerriman@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> I get enough problems with people always adding an 'h' to my name.

My daughter has the same problem.  When people add that superfluous "h" to 
her name, she said, "When my folks named me, they got the "h" out of it.  I 
suggest you get the "h" out too."

And when people misspell my name a "Michele", I tell ask them why they got 
the "l" out.

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#23999

In article <michelle-E44ACC.08371118042012@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article 
> <saramerriman-A7FEDF.16275718042012@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Sara <saramerriman@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > I get enough problems with people always adding an 'h' to my name.
> 
> My daughter has the same problem.  When people add that superfluous "h" to 
> her name, she said, "When my folks named me, they got the "h" out of it.  I 
> suggest you get the "h" out too."
> 
> And when people misspell my name a "Michele", I tell ask them why they got 
> the "l" out.

When I pronounce my last name Kettler which is done as KETT-lure, I 
practically always have to spell it out. I've also had to watch a few 
times since some people want to make it Kettle instead. I explain that I 
wasn't born to Ma & Pa Kettle (for those unfamiliar, Ma & Pa Kettle 
country bumpkin movies were big in the 40's and 50's).

Also, people from the UK routinely want to pronounce it as KETT-lear 
instead.
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#24009

In article <tkettler-C56E02.15193618042012@news.eternal-september.org>,
 "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> wrote:

> I explain that I wasn't born to Ma & Pa Kettle (for those unfamiliar, Ma 
> & Pa Kettle country bumpkin movies were big in the 40's and 50's).

Don't open that closet.

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#24010

In article <michelle-202805.16443818042012@news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner  <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>In article <tkettler-C56E02.15193618042012@news.eternal-september.org>,
> "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> wrote:
>
>> I explain that I wasn't born to Ma & Pa Kettle (for those unfamiliar, Ma 
>> & Pa Kettle country bumpkin movies were big in the 40's and 50's).
>
>Don't open that closet.

Bzzzzt...thank you for playing, Michelle, but that was Fibber
McGee and Molly, not Ma and Pa Kettle. (Before my time, but I
heard about it.)



Patty

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#24013

In article <4f8f52ea$0$16118$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
 Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:

> >> I explain that I wasn't born to Ma & Pa Kettle (for those unfamiliar, 
> >> Ma & Pa Kettle country bumpkin movies were big in the 40's and 50's).
> >
> >Don't open that closet.
> 
> Bzzzzt...thank you for playing, Michelle, but that was Fibber McGee and 
> Molly, not Ma and Pa Kettle. (Before my time, but I heard about it.)

D'oh.  You're right; I shouda checked with... Ooohh, donuts.

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#24019

Nukular™ is a trademark of the USA nuclear industry. :-)

When americans use "nukular" it is like they are using "Q=Tip" or
"Aspirin" not realising that the USA nuclear designs are proprietary and
different from those of other countries (For instance, canada's CANDU
uses different fuel and uses heavy water for reaction control and cooling).

Back in the late 1970s, the USA was urging the Sha of Iran to buy
Nukular™ reactors.  But when relations soured, the USA blocked sale of
USA nuclear tech, and Iran went with russian nuclear tech instead

So it is a 3 Mile Island and Fukoshima against Chernobyl. The record on
both sides isn't that great.


"Color" is a USA thing. The rest of the world sees it because of USA
based companies who are unaware of standard english being used outside
of USA.

If you look at the periodic table of elements, you will see Aluminium.
Not the USA's "aluminum".


USA spellings for many words are different than the rest of the english
world because they either evolved away from it, or the rest of the world
evolved. No matter who started first, the fact remains that it is the
USA which is different.

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