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Do you guys find it annoying that Apple uses all the memory slots?

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#53157 — Do you guys find it annoying that Apple uses all the memory slots?

From	Ant <ant@zimage.comANT>
Date	2013-12-09 00:00 -0800
Subject	Do you guys find it annoying that Apple uses all the memory slots?
Message-ID	<SNqdnVuYYtEP5TjPnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@earthlink.com>

I noticed since my 15" PowerBook G4 1 Ghz (still have it too!) that they 
use up all the memory slots? We can't add RAM to the exisiting ones and 
have to remove the old ones. :(
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#53159

From	George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date	2013-12-09 08:02 -0600
Message-ID	<CECB2981.A50B1%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to	#53157



On 12/9/13 2:00 AM, in article
SNqdnVuYYtEP5TjPnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Ant" <ant@zimage.comANT>
wrote:

> I noticed since my 15" PowerBook G4 1 Ghz (still have it too!) that they
> use up all the memory slots? We can't add RAM to the exisiting ones and
> have to remove the old ones. :(

Marketing 101

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#53162

From	David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com>
Date	2013-12-09 10:41 -0500
Message-ID	<dfritzin-09458E.10411909122013@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#53157

In article <SNqdnVuYYtEP5TjPnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> I noticed since my 15" PowerBook G4 1 Ghz (still have it too!) that they 
> use up all the memory slots? We can't add RAM to the exisiting ones and 
> have to remove the old ones. :(

They certainly don't use all available memory slots in all of their 
computer. I recently upgraded my mid-2010 iMac from 4 to 12 Gig by 
adding 2 4 Gig sticks to the free slots. That said, my MBP (early 2011) 
does have all memory slots filled. Perhaps it is something they do on 
laptops (or, I guess, did on laptops, since in new Mac laptops, the 
memory is soldered onto the motherboard), since space for memory slots 
is/was limited.

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#53170

From	Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date	2013-12-09 15:58 +0000
Message-ID	<slrnlabq4m.1kh9.g.kreme@mbp55.local>
In reply to	#53162

In message <dfritzin-09458E.10411909122013@news.eternal-september.org> 
  David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> wrote:
> In article <SNqdnVuYYtEP5TjPnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
>  Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

>> I noticed since my 15" PowerBook G4 1 Ghz (still have it too!) that they 
>> use up all the memory slots? We can't add RAM to the exisiting ones and 
>> have to remove the old ones. :(

> They certainly don't use all available memory slots in all of their 
> computer. I recently upgraded my mid-2010 iMac from 4 to 12 Gig by 
> adding 2 4 Gig sticks to the free slots. That said, my MBP (early 2011) 
> does have all memory slots filled. Perhaps it is something they do on 
> laptops (or, I guess, did on laptops, since in new Mac laptops, the 
> memory is soldered onto the motherboard), since space for memory slots 
> is/was limited.

There are two things. First, RAM works better in pairs and in some
cases, must be used in pairs. Second, smaller modules are cheaper.

So, for example, 2x2GB modules on a computer not only work better than
1x4GB, but are also cheaper.

My iMac has 4 slots, two were filled by Apple with 4GB DIMMs. I decide
8GB was not enough, so I upgraded by adding 2x8GB. 24GB is way more
memory than I needed (or still need) but it future proofed me if I ever
decided to go to 32GB.

-- 
'Who's that playing now, Mr. Dibbler?' "'And you".' 'Sorry, Mr.
Dibbler?' 'Only they write it &U,' said Dibbler. --Soul Music

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#53196

From	George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date	2013-12-09 19:38 -0600
Message-ID	<CECBCCA7.A5113%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to	#53170



On 12/9/13 9:58 AM, in article slrnlabq4m.1kh9.g.kreme@mbp55.local, "Lewis"
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <dfritzin-09458E.10411909122013@news.eternal-september.org>
>   David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> wrote:
>> In article <SNqdnVuYYtEP5TjPnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
>>  Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> 
>>> I noticed since my 15" PowerBook G4 1 Ghz (still have it too!) that they
>>> use up all the memory slots? We can't add RAM to the exisiting ones and
>>> have to remove the old ones. :(
> 
>> They certainly don't use all available memory slots in all of their
>> computer. I recently upgraded my mid-2010 iMac from 4 to 12 Gig by
>> adding 2 4 Gig sticks to the free slots. That said, my MBP (early 2011)
>> does have all memory slots filled. Perhaps it is something they do on
>> laptops (or, I guess, did on laptops, since in new Mac laptops, the
>> memory is soldered onto the motherboard), since space for memory slots
>> is/was limited.
> 
> There are two things. First, RAM works better in pairs and in some
> cases, must be used in pairs. Second, smaller modules are cheaper.
> 
> So, for example, 2x2GB modules on a computer not only work better than
> 1x4GB, but are also cheaper.
> 

True dat. Let me add that some aftermarket suppliers might lessen the pain
by offering 'trade in' money for your old RAM. OWC comes to mind for that.

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#53200

From	Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au>
Date	2013-12-10 14:00 +1100
Message-ID	<ar0da9tefuah08gfs7h512avnvjcps0pt7@4ax.com>
In reply to	#53170

On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 15:58:11 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>In message <dfritzin-09458E.10411909122013@news.eternal-september.org> 
>  David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> wrote:
>> In article <SNqdnVuYYtEP5TjPnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
>>  Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>
>>> I noticed since my 15" PowerBook G4 1 Ghz (still have it too!) that they 
>>> use up all the memory slots? We can't add RAM to the exisiting ones and 
>>> have to remove the old ones. :(
>
>> They certainly don't use all available memory slots in all of their 
>> computer. I recently upgraded my mid-2010 iMac from 4 to 12 Gig by 
>> adding 2 4 Gig sticks to the free slots. That said, my MBP (early 2011) 
>> does have all memory slots filled. Perhaps it is something they do on 
>> laptops (or, I guess, did on laptops, since in new Mac laptops, the 
>> memory is soldered onto the motherboard), since space for memory slots 
>> is/was limited.
>
>There are two things. First, RAM works better in pairs and in some
>cases, must be used in pairs. Second, smaller modules are cheaper.
>
>So, for example, 2x2GB modules on a computer not only work better than
>1x4GB, but are also cheaper.
>
>My iMac has 4 slots, two were filled by Apple with 4GB DIMMs. I decide
>8GB was not enough, so I upgraded by adding 2x8GB. 24GB is way more
>memory than I needed (or still need) but it future proofed me if I ever
>decided to go to 32GB.

8GB is enough for anyone. More is only used for bragging rights.
I had a Pentium 3 computer with 8GB of RAM.
It was a server with 8 CPUs.




>-- 
>'Who's that playing now, Mr. Dibbler?' "'And you".' 'Sorry, Mr.
>Dibbler?' 'Only they write it &U,' said Dibbler. --Soul Music

=====================
Deuteronomy 23:2 says
 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD;
even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the 
congregation of the LORD.

So how did Jesus get back there?

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#53203

From	Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date	2013-12-10 16:26 +1300
Message-ID	<101220131626402341%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to	#53200

In article <ar0da9tefuah08gfs7h512avnvjcps0pt7@4ax.com>, Barry OGrady
<atheist@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> 
> 8GB is enough for anyone. More is only used for bragging rights.

For probably 90% of people, 256MB and a G3 chip is overkill for what
they actually do (emailing, flicking through simple websites, typing in
Word, etc.) ... ignoring the over-bloated new software which insists on
having more / newer. My PowerMac has 288MB of RAM.  :-)

BUT it depends what you're doing. For people doing things like editing
HD film, large high-res images, etc., more RAM is a great help.

> I had a Pentium 3 computer with 8GB of RAM.
> It was a server with 8 CPUs.

Again, depends on what the "server" is doing. A simple file server,
especially with a small number of users, needs very little RAM or
processing power - which is why Apple sells the Mac Mini to be used as
a server. A server is just sitting there doing absolutely nothing most
of the time (it does even less than a user's computer).

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#53207

From	Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date	2013-12-10 04:43 +0000
Message-ID	<slrnlad6vt.1qtc.g.kreme@mbp55.local>
In reply to	#53203

In message <101220131626402341%YourName@YourISP.com> 
  Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> In article <ar0da9tefuah08gfs7h512avnvjcps0pt7@4ax.com>, Barry OGrady
> <atheist@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> 8GB is enough for anyone. More is only used for bragging rights.

> For probably 90% of people, 256MB and a G3 chip is overkill for what
> they actually do (emailing, flicking through simple websites, typing in
> Word, etc.) ... ignoring the over-bloated new software which insists on
> having more / newer. My PowerMac has 288MB of RAM.  :-)

> BUT it depends what you're doing. For people doing things like editing
> HD film, large high-res images, etc., more RAM is a great help.

Modern web use requires far more than 256MB of RAM.

-- 
In my world there are people in chains and you can ride them like ponies

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#53204

From	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date	2013-12-09 23:14 -0500
Message-ID	<52a69538$0$64168$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to	#53200

On 13-12-09 22:00, Barry OGrady wrote:

> 8GB is enough for anyone. More is only used for bragging rights.
> I had a Pentium 3 computer with 8GB of RAM.
> It was a server with 8 CPUs.

No ! 640k is enough for anyone.

If you work with any Adobe video applications, you will quickly find
that 12 gigs isn't enough. I had the after Effects Render Engine
rrunning on my 18 gig server and it happyly took all of it for a job
that took over a day (about 13 video files to process at roughly 2
seconds per frame, that means a 10 minute clip took over 10 hours to
process)

The main app took about 10 gigs for itself, and the companion aeselflink
processes split the rest of memory amongst themselves. (note that there
are settings that allow one to restrict how much memory it will use, how
many cores it will use etc).

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#53224

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date	2013-12-10 12:22 -0500
Message-ID	<101220131222584269%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to	#53204

In article <52a69538$0$64168$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> If you work with any Adobe video applications, you will quickly find
> that 12 gigs isn't enough. I had the after Effects Render Engine
> rrunning on my 18 gig server and it happyly took all of it for a job
> that took over a day (about 13 video files to process at roughly 2
> seconds per frame, that means a 10 minute clip took over 10 hours to
> process)

any video application.

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#53339

From	John <Man@the.keyboard>
Date	2013-12-14 11:10 +0000
Message-ID	<ooeoa99ju8em3qkpoumctm0nspt2nqn04j@4ax.com>
In reply to	#53204

On Mon, 09 Dec 2013 23:14:47 -0500, JF Mezei
<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

>On 13-12-09 22:00, Barry OGrady wrote:
>
>> 8GB is enough for anyone. More is only used for bragging rights.
>> I had a Pentium 3 computer with 8GB of RAM.
>> It was a server with 8 CPUs.
>
>No ! 640k is enough for anyone.
>
>If you work with any Adobe video applications, you will quickly find
>that 12 gigs isn't enough. I had the after Effects Render Engine
>rrunning on my 18 gig server and it happyly took all of it for a job
>that took over a day (about 13 video files to process at roughly 2
>seconds per frame, that means a 10 minute clip took over 10 hours to
>process)
>
>The main app took about 10 gigs for itself, and the companion aeselflink
>processes split the rest of memory amongst themselves. (note that there
>are settings that allow one to restrict how much memory it will use, how
>many cores it will use etc).

 If you run BOINC stuff, like SETI, EINSTEIN and ASTEROIDS at-HOME,
you can fill up any amount of RAM and the more you have the more
productive you can be so the more useful you are to the project,
society, humanity in general and our posterity.
 Protein folding is a good one. Climateprediction could help future
peoples and there's even anti-malaria projects. 
 BOINC loves RAM. It also loves CPU's.
 Unfortunately it can, if you set it too high, use enough juice to
light up Manhatten and make your usually silent machine sound like
seventy-seven shades of Saturn-5's lifting off. 
 I thoroughly recommend BOINC as a torture test. GIMPS, the Merseene
Prime hunt, is another good one for that.
                                             J.

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#53206

From	Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date	2013-12-10 04:42 +0000
Message-ID	<slrnlad6u6.1qtc.g.kreme@mbp55.local>
In reply to	#53200

In message <ar0da9tefuah08gfs7h512avnvjcps0pt7@4ax.com> 
  Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 15:58:11 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>>In message <dfritzin-09458E.10411909122013@news.eternal-september.org> 
>>  David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> wrote:
>>> In article <SNqdnVuYYtEP5TjPnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
>>>  Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>>
>>>> I noticed since my 15" PowerBook G4 1 Ghz (still have it too!) that they 
>>>> use up all the memory slots? We can't add RAM to the exisiting ones and 
>>>> have to remove the old ones. :(
>>
>>> They certainly don't use all available memory slots in all of their 
>>> computer. I recently upgraded my mid-2010 iMac from 4 to 12 Gig by 
>>> adding 2 4 Gig sticks to the free slots. That said, my MBP (early 2011) 
>>> does have all memory slots filled. Perhaps it is something they do on 
>>> laptops (or, I guess, did on laptops, since in new Mac laptops, the 
>>> memory is soldered onto the motherboard), since space for memory slots 
>>> is/was limited.
>>
>>There are two things. First, RAM works better in pairs and in some
>>cases, must be used in pairs. Second, smaller modules are cheaper.
>>
>>So, for example, 2x2GB modules on a computer not only work better than
>>1x4GB, but are also cheaper.
>>
>>My iMac has 4 slots, two were filled by Apple with 4GB DIMMs. I decide
>>8GB was not enough, so I upgraded by adding 2x8GB. 24GB is way more
>>memory than I needed (or still need) but it future proofed me if I ever
>>decided to go to 32GB.

> 8GB is enough for anyone.

That's simply not true.

-- 
Standing on the moon with nothing else to do
A lovely view of heaven but I'd rather be with you

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#53329

From	Bob Harris <nospam.News.Bob@remove.Smith-Harris.us>
Date	2013-12-13 19:42 -0500
Message-ID	<nospam.News.Bob-E1D585.19421913122013@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#53200

In article <ar0da9tefuah08gfs7h512avnvjcps0pt7@4ax.com>,
 Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 15:58:11 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> >In message <dfritzin-09458E.10411909122013@news.eternal-september.org> 
> >  David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> wrote:
> >> In article <SNqdnVuYYtEP5TjPnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
> >>  Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> >
> >>> I noticed since my 15" PowerBook G4 1 Ghz (still have it too!) that they 
> >>> use up all the memory slots? We can't add RAM to the exisiting ones and 
> >>> have to remove the old ones. :(
> >
> >> They certainly don't use all available memory slots in all of their 
> >> computer. I recently upgraded my mid-2010 iMac from 4 to 12 Gig by 
> >> adding 2 4 Gig sticks to the free slots. That said, my MBP (early 2011) 
> >> does have all memory slots filled. Perhaps it is something they do on 
> >> laptops (or, I guess, did on laptops, since in new Mac laptops, the 
> >> memory is soldered onto the motherboard), since space for memory slots 
> >> is/was limited.
> >
> >There are two things. First, RAM works better in pairs and in some
> >cases, must be used in pairs. Second, smaller modules are cheaper.
> >
> >So, for example, 2x2GB modules on a computer not only work better than
> >1x4GB, but are also cheaper.
> >
> >My iMac has 4 slots, two were filled by Apple with 4GB DIMMs. I decide
> >8GB was not enough, so I upgraded by adding 2x8GB. 24GB is way more
> >memory than I needed (or still need) but it future proofed me if I ever
> >decided to go to 32GB.
> 
> 8GB is enough for anyone. More is only used for bragging rights.
> I had a Pentium 3 computer with 8GB of RAM.
> It was a server with 8 CPUs.

I was using 8GB on my iMac at work for several years, but the iMac 
was doing a lot of things, I noticed I was paging out and getting 
into situations where I was waiting to switch between apps.

I upgraded to 16GB (crucial.com) and now my iMac almost never does 
pageouts, and my responsiveness is much better.

And since it was several years since I had gotten the Mac, my 16GB 
upgrade was under $100.  It was a very effective upgrade, and I 
was not using as bragging rights.  I actually measured my pageouts 
before and after, and observed the improvements for myself.


> >-- 
> >'Who's that playing now, Mr. Dibbler?' "'And you".' 'Sorry, Mr.
> >Dibbler?' 'Only they write it &U,' said Dibbler. --Soul Music
> 
> =====================
> Deuteronomy 23:2 says
>  A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD;
> even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the 
> congregation of the LORD.
> 
> So how did Jesus get back there?

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#53199

From	Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au>
Date	2013-12-10 13:57 +1100
Message-ID	<eo0da9hff924rg59q9fgdqhmueb35p78nm@4ax.com>
In reply to	#53162

On Mon, 09 Dec 2013 10:41:19 -0500, David Fritzinger
<dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> wrote:

>In article <SNqdnVuYYtEP5TjPnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>
>> I noticed since my 15" PowerBook G4 1 Ghz (still have it too!) that they 
>> use up all the memory slots? We can't add RAM to the exisiting ones and 
>> have to remove the old ones. :(
>
>They certainly don't use all available memory slots in all of their 
>computer. I recently upgraded my mid-2010 iMac from 4 to 12 Gig by 
>adding 2 4 Gig sticks to the free slots. That said, my MBP (early 2011) 
>does have all memory slots filled. Perhaps it is something they do on 
>laptops (or, I guess, did on laptops, since in new Mac laptops, the 
>memory is soldered onto the motherboard), since space for memory slots 
>is/was limited.

My iBook G4 1.33 Ghz has one soldered and one slot.

=====================
Deuteronomy 23:2 says
 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD;
even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the 
congregation of the LORD.

So how did Jesus get back there?

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#53167

From	Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com>
Date	2013-12-09 16:51 +0100
Message-ID	<l84ouv$t20$2@tota-refugium.de>
In reply to	#53157

On 09.12.2013 09:00, Ant wrote:
> I noticed since my 15" PowerBook G4 1 Ghz (still have it too!) that they
> use up all the memory slots?

Don't worry: on new models they don't do that any more.

-- 
One computer and three operating systems, not the other way round.
One wife and many hotels, not the other way round ! ;-)

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#53169

From	Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date	2013-12-09 07:56 -0800
Message-ID	<2013120907563153587-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
In reply to	#53157

On 2013-12-09 08:00:18 +0000, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> said:

> I noticed since my 15" PowerBook G4 1 Ghz (still have it too!) that 
> they use up all the memory slots? We can't add RAM to the exisiting 
> ones and have to remove the old ones. :(

Yup!
My iMac ordered with 8GB arrived with 4x2GB fitted. It would have made 
life much simpler for upgrades to have had 2x4GB with 2 slots empty.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#53171

From	Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net>
Date	2013-12-09 09:02 -0800
Message-ID	<vilain-A015AF.09024709122013@news.individual.net>
In reply to	#53157

In article <SNqdnVuYYtEP5TjPnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> I noticed since my 15" PowerBook G4 1 Ghz (still have it too!) that they 
> use up all the memory slots? We can't add RAM to the exisiting ones and 
> have to remove the old ones. :(

Yep. Also there's a top limit on the G4 models.  My Dual 1.25 GHz only 
allowed 1.5GB of memory max. According to:

<http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/specs/powerbook_g4_1.
0.html>

You machine can hold 1GB in 2 SIM slots.  And throwing away the old 
memory is typical, unless you have something with lots of slots you can 
plug it into.

-- 
DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...
[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]

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#53328

From	Bob Harris <nospam.News.Bob@remove.Smith-Harris.us>
Date	2013-12-13 19:36 -0500
Message-ID	<nospam.News.Bob-42320E.19361613122013@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#53157

In article <SNqdnVuYYtEP5TjPnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> I noticed since my 15" PowerBook G4 1 Ghz (still have it too!) that they 
> use up all the memory slots? We can't add RAM to the exisiting ones and 
> have to remove the old ones. :(

The reality is that very few users actually upgrade their Macs in 
anyway.  Apple is selling to that market.

Those of us that extend the life of our systems via upgrades, are 
not who Apple is selling to.

With some systems that allow 4 slots, you often have the option of 
paying more for 2 memory cards vs paying less for 4 memory cards 
to get a given capacity.  The price difference between 2 higher 
capacity cards vs 4 cards half the size can be significant, so 
I've often elected to go with the less expensive 4 cards, knowing 
that when I was ready to upgrade, memory prices would have gone 
done so drastically that I could get 4 of the previously expensive 
cards for far less than what I paid for the original RAM.

Of course the max capacity requires filling all the slots with the 
more expensive cards.

Current Macbook Pros are taking after the Macbook Air, where the 
RAM is not upgradable, so you factory order what you want for 
ever.  Wife just got a 16GB 13" Macbook Pro, which was the max RAM 
capacity.

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Do you guys find it annoying that Apple uses all the memory slots?

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