Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]
Groups > comp.sys.mac.system > #58070 > unrolled thread
| Started by | "Ed H." <fake@notreal.net> |
|---|---|
| First post | 2014-03-22 16:07 -0500 |
| Last post | 2014-03-26 08:20 +1200 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 71 — 14 participants |
Back to article view | Back to comp.sys.mac.system
Next update of Mac Mini? "Ed H." <fake@notreal.net> - 2014-03-22 16:07 -0500
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-22 23:02 +0000
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-23 12:09 +1200
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-23 12:11 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-23 21:10 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-24 16:09 +1200
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-23 09:06 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2014-03-23 19:00 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? "Ed H." <fake@notreal.net> - 2014-03-24 20:46 -0500
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-25 11:02 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-03-23 19:30 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-24 13:11 +1200
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-24 01:40 +0000
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-24 13:27 +1300
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-23 22:55 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-23 20:12 -0700
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-24 04:42 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-25 09:01 +1200
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-25 09:28 +1300
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-25 13:24 +1200
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-25 13:56 +1300
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-25 13:03 +0000
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-26 13:34 +1300
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-24 17:01 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-24 23:02 +0000
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-24 19:15 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-25 13:31 +1200
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-24 23:10 +0000
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-25 13:18 +1200
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-25 18:16 +1200
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-25 05:14 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-25 10:19 +0000
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-25 13:05 +0000
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-25 11:14 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-25 11:11 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-25 23:01 +0000
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-25 19:37 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 08:30 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-03-26 09:04 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 09:33 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-26 16:20 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 19:31 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-26 19:59 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-26 20:22 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-26 20:30 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-26 20:35 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-27 13:52 +1200
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 08:46 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-27 13:45 +0000
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-27 18:27 +0000
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-27 15:07 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 15:41 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-28 06:06 +0000
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 09:28 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-28 13:50 +0000
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-28 10:08 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-27 17:30 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-27 21:59 +0000
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-04-02 23:14 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-04-03 16:37 +1200
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-08 12:47 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-04-03 06:22 +0000
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-27 00:59 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-27 00:57 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-27 00:57 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-27 08:44 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-27 15:03 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-27 17:31 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-27 17:28 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-25 19:49 -0400
Re: Next update of Mac Mini? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-03-26 08:20 +1200
Page 3 of 4 — ← Prev page 1 2 [3] 4 Next page →
| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-26 16:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <npudnfpoZbPmq67OnZ2dnUVZ_vUAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #58140 |
On 2014.03.26, 08:30 , Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <zaCdncUlNvSjjq_OnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> Tim Cook says something interesting is coming this year wrt Apple TV
>> so we'll see (and I'd believe this to be much more than only the
>> Comcast deal). One article suggests Apple has Netflix in its sights.
>
> ... and Apple will be more strict about enforcing geo-location than
> Netflix; you'll probably have to set up a new Apple ID from a US ip
> address, and even then they'd check your credit card details. Netflix
> don't care where you are, as long as they think they know where you are.
That did occur to me. When I set up Netflix I used my full Canadian
credit card address but used a US zip code in lieu of CADPC.
Apple won't be so ... flexible I guess.
But I could probably get my cousin in the Boston area to set me up - or
any number of friends/colleagues in the US for that matter.
> Even now, if I want the US Netflix via my VPN, I have to use a computer
> and a browser, rather than a set-top-box (like a Blu-ray player) because
> the latter is somehow locked to some strange DNS thingie and you can't
> even proxy through a VPN-connected computer the bastards. Another option
> is the Netflix app that comes with Windows 8.1, but it's still running
> on a computer and my ol' MacBook Pro running Firefox connected
> full-screen to Netflix does a fine job of HD.
For a while I used a VPN router with ww-drt (Tomato) code in it
(replacing the OEM code). So that stood between my primary router and
the Apple TV. It would work with anything downstream of it.
But I find it easier to simply use my Mac as my media player and I relay
that via AirPlay (over Ethernet) to the Apple TV thence the television
(HDMI). On the Mac I use HMA.
--
Privacy has become an essential personal chore that most
people are not trained to perform.
- Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-26 19:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5333636e$0$49698$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #58145 |
In article <npudnfpoZbPmq67OnZ2dnUVZ_vUAAAAA@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > That did occur to me. When I set up Netflix I used my full Canadian > credit card address but used a US zip code in lieu of CADPC. You don't even need to do that with Netflix. I signed up with one of those Amex rebate cards (Canadian); it only had $20 on it (I don't remember giving them a 'physical' address). They know I'm a Canadian customer, but if I "sign in" from a US ip address, they serve me the US content. I guess they reckon that one's allowed to travel; if I were in a motel in Nevada, I'd get the US content the same way; or if I were in a hotel in Dublin - the Irish content. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-26 19:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <NLadnY8hnJJN9K7OnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #58147 |
On 2014.03.26, 19:31 , Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <npudnfpoZbPmq67OnZ2dnUVZ_vUAAAAA@giganews.com>,
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> That did occur to me. When I set up Netflix I used my full Canadian
>> credit card address but used a US zip code in lieu of CADPC.
>
> You don't even need to do that with Netflix. I signed up with one of
> those Amex rebate cards (Canadian); it only had $20 on it (I don't
> remember giving them a 'physical' address). They know I'm a Canadian
> customer, but if I "sign in" from a US ip address, they serve me the US
> content.
At the time I signed up the various sites I looked at said that the one
and only thing that was required was a US zip code (and connection via a
US IP). That may no longer be the case.
--
... it may be that "in the cloud" really isn't the best term
for the services these companies offer. What they really
want is to have us "on the leash."
-David Pogue, Scientific American, 2014.02
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-26 20:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <53336f5b$0$10487$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #58148 |
On 14-03-26 19:59, Alan Browne wrote: > At the time I signed up the various sites I looked at said that the one > and only thing that was required was a US zip code (and connection via a > US IP). That may no longer be the case. The curremt trick is achieved using a special US DNS provider to access USA Netflix from your fully canadian account. Names escape me at the moment. Some Canadian monopolistic media companies have complained about Netflix taking no action to prevent Canadians from accessing content for which the canadian media copany hold exclusive rights for Canada.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-26 20:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ZOadnT23v4up7K7OnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #58149 |
On 2014.03.26, 20:22 , JF Mezei wrote:
> On 14-03-26 19:59, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> At the time I signed up the various sites I looked at said that the one
>> and only thing that was required was a US zip code (and connection via a
>> US IP). That may no longer be the case.
>
> The curremt trick is achieved using a special US DNS provider to access
> USA Netflix from your fully canadian account. Names escape me at the moment.
>
> Some Canadian monopolistic media companies have complained about Netflix
> taking no action to prevent Canadians from accessing content for which
> the canadian media copany hold exclusive rights for Canada.
That's very interesting, do you have references?
--
Privacy has become an essential personal chore that most
people are not trained to perform.
- Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-26 20:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <53337255$0$49602$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #58150 |
In article <ZOadnT23v4up7K7OnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2014.03.26, 20:22 , JF Mezei wrote: > > On 14-03-26 19:59, Alan Browne wrote: > > > >> At the time I signed up the various sites I looked at said that the one > >> and only thing that was required was a US zip code (and connection via a > >> US IP). That may no longer be the case. > > > > The curremt trick is achieved using a special US DNS provider to access > > USA Netflix from your fully canadian account. Names escape me at the moment. > > > > Some Canadian monopolistic media companies have complained about Netflix > > taking no action to prevent Canadians from accessing content for which > > the canadian media copany hold exclusive rights for Canada. > > That's very interesting, do you have references? Yeah. I'd like to see a reference to that. I hate the Canadian CRTC-driven bullshit too, but Netflix "try their best" (wink wink) to do the geo-locating. I have a very good commercial VPN with servers in 40-odd US cities (and more all over the world). Netflix are under no obligation to do more than check out my geo-location. My VPN will work with me too to unblock certain sites where the geo-stuff is more stringent -- that's what I pay them for. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-27 13:52 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <270320141352072312%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #58151 |
In article <53337255$0$49602$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <ZOadnT23v4up7K7OnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@giganews.com>, > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > > On 2014.03.26, 20:22 , JF Mezei wrote: > > > On 14-03-26 19:59, Alan Browne wrote: > > > > > >> At the time I signed up the various sites I looked at said that the one > > >> and only thing that was required was a US zip code (and connection via a > > >> US IP). That may no longer be the case. > > > > > > The curremt trick is achieved using a special US DNS provider to access > > > USA Netflix from your fully canadian account. Names escape me at the > > > moment. > > > > > > Some Canadian monopolistic media companies have complained about Netflix > > > taking no action to prevent Canadians from accessing content for which > > > the canadian media copany hold exclusive rights for Canada. > > > > That's very interesting, do you have references? > > Yeah. I'd like to see a reference to that. I hate the Canadian > CRTC-driven bullshit too, but Netflix "try their best" (wink wink) to do > the geo-locating. I have a very good commercial VPN with servers in > 40-odd US cities (and more all over the world). Netflix are under no > obligation to do more than check out my geo-location. My VPN will work > with me too to unblock certain sites where the geo-stuff is more > stringent -- that's what I pay them for. The BBC's website limits much of its content to British residents (not just the TV shows, but also things like the Doctor Who games), although you can get around it using proxy servers. To some degree they do have the right to do that though since the British public pay a TV licensing fee, whereas overseas people do not, although some of the content is purchasable by overseas people instead of being free.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-27 08:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <53341db2$0$9617$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #58152 |
In article <270320141352072312%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > The BBC's website limits much of its content to British residents (not > just the TV shows, but also things like the Doctor Who games), although > you can get around it using proxy servers. To some degree they do have > the right to do that though since the British public pay a TV licensing > fee, whereas overseas people do not, although some of the content is > purchasable by overseas people instead of being free. I can get iPlayer through my VPN. The Beeb asks politely if I have a tv license, and I politely click the "yes" button. The time difference makes it easier for me to download the stuff I want from some (ahem) reputable source, rather than try to watch live. Has ITV stopped its live service? -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-27 13:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <270320141345424339%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #58158 |
In article <53341db2$0$9617$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <270320141352072312%YourName@YourISP.com>, > Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > > > The BBC's website limits much of its content to British residents (not > > just the TV shows, but also things like the Doctor Who games), although > > you can get around it using proxy servers. To some degree they do have > > the right to do that though since the British public pay a TV licensing > > fee, whereas overseas people do not, although some of the content is > > purchasable by overseas people instead of being free. > > I can get iPlayer through my VPN. The Beeb asks politely if I have a tv > license, and I politely click the "yes" button. The time difference > makes it easier for me to download the stuff I want from some (ahem) > reputable source, rather than try to watch live. Has ITV stopped its > live service? Would you lot like to retitle your sub-thread so that the rest of us can stick with the Mac-Mini update? So kind. -- "If you're not able to ask questions and deal with the answers without feeling that someone has called your intelligence or competence into question, don't ask questions on Usenet where the answers won't be carefully tailored to avoid tripping your hair-trigger insecurities." - D M Procida, UCSM
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-27 18:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlj8rcb.17ce.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #58152 |
In message <270320141352072312%YourName@YourISP.com> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > In article <53337255$0$49602$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>, > Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: >> In article <ZOadnT23v4up7K7OnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@giganews.com>, >> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> > On 2014.03.26, 20:22 , JF Mezei wrote: >> > > On 14-03-26 19:59, Alan Browne wrote: >> > > >> > >> At the time I signed up the various sites I looked at said that the one >> > >> and only thing that was required was a US zip code (and connection via a >> > >> US IP). That may no longer be the case. >> > > >> > > The curremt trick is achieved using a special US DNS provider to access >> > > USA Netflix from your fully canadian account. Names escape me at the >> > > moment. >> > > >> > > Some Canadian monopolistic media companies have complained about Netflix >> > > taking no action to prevent Canadians from accessing content for which >> > > the canadian media copany hold exclusive rights for Canada. >> > >> > That's very interesting, do you have references? >> >> Yeah. I'd like to see a reference to that. I hate the Canadian >> CRTC-driven bullshit too, but Netflix "try their best" (wink wink) to do >> the geo-locating. I have a very good commercial VPN with servers in >> 40-odd US cities (and more all over the world). Netflix are under no >> obligation to do more than check out my geo-location. My VPN will work >> with me too to unblock certain sites where the geo-stuff is more >> stringent -- that's what I pay them for. > The BBC's website limits much of its content to British residents (not > just the TV shows, but also things like the Doctor Who games), although > you can get around it using proxy servers. To some degree they do have > the right to do that though since the British public pay a TV licensing > fee, whereas overseas people do not, although some of the content is > purchasable by overseas people instead of being free. I the BBC would give me access to everything someone in the UK gets, I would GLADLY pay the license fee. In a heartbeat. -- Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-27 15:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <533476d6$0$59823$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #58161 |
On 14-03-27 14:27, Lewis wrote: > I the BBC would give me access to everything someone in the UK gets, I > would GLADLY pay the license fee. In a heartbeat. This is something Apple could do. Bill your apple ID the license fee and allow your AppleTV to stream BBC or access its iPlayer. However, BBC might be opposed to this. They do a lot of business exporting their programming worldwide, and if the US outfit that runs BBC America gets exclusive distribution in USA. then Apple couldn't sell it in the USA. In Canada. Shaw has the BBC franchise rights, although some programs are bought by Bell (like Doctor Who).
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-27 15:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <53347f00$0$32788$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #58163 |
In article <533476d6$0$59823$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 14-03-27 14:27, Lewis wrote: > > > I the BBC would give me access to everything someone in the UK gets, I > > would GLADLY pay the license fee. In a heartbeat. > > This is something Apple could do. Bill your apple ID the license fee and > allow your AppleTV to stream BBC or access its iPlayer. Given that that will never happen, there are alternatives (XBMC just to name one) to Apple TV; VPN services that bypass the geo-crap are cheap and reliable. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-28 06:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlja4au.8b8.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #58165 |
In message <53347f00$0$32788$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com> Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <533476d6$0$59823$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>, > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >> On 14-03-27 14:27, Lewis wrote: >> >> > I the BBC would give me access to everything someone in the UK gets, I >> > would GLADLY pay the license fee. In a heartbeat. >> >> This is something Apple could do. Bill your apple ID the license fee and >> allow your AppleTV to stream BBC or access its iPlayer. > Given that that will never happen, there are alternatives (XBMC just to > name one) to Apple TV; VPN services that bypass the geo-crap are cheap > and reliable. But even with a VPN you don't get the same thing that a license holder in the UK gets. Live broadcasts, for one. -- Strange things are afoot at the Circle K
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-28 09:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <53357908$0$61228$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #58181 |
In article <slrnlja4au.8b8.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > But even with a VPN you don't get the same thing that a license holder > in the UK gets. Live broadcasts, for one. That's not true. I've watched live BBC via VPN -- the time difference makes it pretty useless though, except for special events. I watched that last Dr. Who stuff live. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-28 13:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnljavhe.g57.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #58185 |
In message <53357908$0$61228$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com> Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <slrnlja4au.8b8.g.kreme@amelia.local>, > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >> But even with a VPN you don't get the same thing that a license holder >> in the UK gets. Live broadcasts, for one. > That's not true. I've watched live BBC via VPN -- the time difference > makes it pretty useless though, except for special events. I watched > that last Dr. Who stuff live. *Everything* is available live? -- "Yes," said the skull. "Quit while you're a head, that's what I say."
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-28 10:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <53358266$0$58679$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #58188 |
In article <slrnljavhe.g57.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <53357908$0$61228$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com> > Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > > In article <slrnlja4au.8b8.g.kreme@amelia.local>, > > Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > > >> But even with a VPN you don't get the same thing that a license holder > >> in the UK gets. Live broadcasts, for one. > > > That's not true. I've watched live BBC via VPN -- the time difference > > makes it pretty useless though, except for special events. I watched > > that last Dr. Who stuff live. > > *Everything* is available live? Unless they've changed it very recently, yes. There's some stuff that's unavailable _anywhere_ via the internet, I guess for licensing reasons, but you click on the "watch live" button all of the BBC channels are there for your perusal. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-27 17:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <QKKdnSW7gfPDBanOnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #58161 |
On 2014.03.27, 14:27 , Lewis wrote:
> I the BBC would give me access to everything someone in the UK gets, I
> would GLADLY pay the license fee. In a heartbeat.
A lot of it ends up on YouTube (at varying qualities...)
Some ends up on PBS.
--
... it may be that "in the cloud" really isn't the best term
for the services these companies offer. What they really
want is to have us "on the leash."
-David Pogue, Scientific American, 2014.02
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-03-27 21:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <270320142159463007%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #58161 |
In article <slrnlj8rcb.17ce.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <270320141352072312%YourName@YourISP.com> > Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > > In article <53337255$0$49602$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>, > > Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > >> In article <ZOadnT23v4up7K7OnZ2dnUVZ_h2dnZ2d@giganews.com>, > >> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >> > On 2014.03.26, 20:22 , JF Mezei wrote: > >> > > On 14-03-26 19:59, Alan Browne wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> At the time I signed up the various sites I looked at said that the > >> > >> one > >> > >> and only thing that was required was a US zip code (and connection > >> > >> via a > >> > >> US IP). That may no longer be the case. > >> > > > >> > > The curremt trick is achieved using a special US DNS provider to access > >> > > USA Netflix from your fully canadian account. Names escape me at the > >> > > moment. > >> > > > >> > > Some Canadian monopolistic media companies have complained about > >> > > Netflix > >> > > taking no action to prevent Canadians from accessing content for which > >> > > the canadian media copany hold exclusive rights for Canada. > >> > > >> > That's very interesting, do you have references? > >> > >> Yeah. I'd like to see a reference to that. I hate the Canadian > >> CRTC-driven bullshit too, but Netflix "try their best" (wink wink) to do > >> the geo-locating. I have a very good commercial VPN with servers in > >> 40-odd US cities (and more all over the world). Netflix are under no > >> obligation to do more than check out my geo-location. My VPN will work > >> with me too to unblock certain sites where the geo-stuff is more > >> stringent -- that's what I pay them for. > > > The BBC's website limits much of its content to British residents (not > > just the TV shows, but also things like the Doctor Who games), although > > you can get around it using proxy servers. To some degree they do have > > the right to do that though since the British public pay a TV licensing > > fee, whereas overseas people do not, although some of the content is > > purchasable by overseas people instead of being free. > > I the BBC would give me access to everything someone in the UK gets, I > would GLADLY pay the license fee. In a heartbeat. That doesn't get you Downton, of course. -- "Once you adopt the unix paradigm, the variants cease to be a problem - you bitch, of course, but that's because bitching is fun, unlike M$ OS's, where bitching is required to keep your head from exploding." - S Stremler in afc
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-04-02 23:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <533cd204$0$10595$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #58152 |
On 14-03-26 21:52, Your Name wrote: > The BBC's website limits much of its content to British residents (not > just the TV shows, but also things like the Doctor Who games), although > you can get around it using proxy servers. To some degree they do have > the right to do that though since the British public pay a TV licensing > fee, whereas overseas people do not It isn't just that. When BBC sells exclusve rights to a programme in the USA (for instance PBS or BBC America), then BBC UK does not have the right to allow americans to access that programm from the BBC's UK web site because those rights belong to whoever purchased the exclusive rights for that country. Similarly, when Bell Media buys exclusive canadian righst for Doctor Who, it doesn't want canadians to have access to the "real" Doctor Who from the BBC, it wants to force canadians to subscribe to cable so they can watch it on Space or on the Space web site that is wall-gardened to cable subscribers more and more. Bell Media's version of Doctor Who may be shorter (to allow for more commercials) with various animations added at bottom of screens as part fo ads or promoting other programmes. Another example: the british series Spooks. It was exported to USA as "MI-5", but the US version was roughly 10 minutes shorter per episode so it would fit in the PBS schedule that include a few minutes to beg for donations.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-04-03 16:37 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <030420141637130586%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #58299 |
In article <533cd204$0$10595$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 14-03-26 21:52, Your Name wrote: > > > The BBC's website limits much of its content to British residents (not > > just the TV shows, but also things like the Doctor Who games), although > > you can get around it using proxy servers. To some degree they do have > > the right to do that though since the British public pay a TV licensing > > fee, whereas overseas people do not > > It isn't just that. When BBC sells exclusve rights to a programme in the > USA (for instance PBS or BBC America), then BBC UK does not have the > right to allow americans to access that programm from the BBC's UK web > site because those rights belong to whoever purchased the exclusive > rights for that country. True, but it's not just the TV episodes. The Doctor Who Adventure Games for example were free downloads for UK residents, but people anywhere else had to pay for them. > Similarly, when Bell Media buys exclusive canadian righst for Doctor > Who, it doesn't want canadians to have access to the "real" Doctor Who > from the BBC, it wants to force canadians to subscribe to cable so they > can watch it on Space or on the Space web site that is wall-gardened to > cable subscribers more and more. > > Bell Media's version of Doctor Who may be shorter (to allow for more > commercials) with various animations added at bottom of screens as part > fo ads or promoting other programmes. > > Another example: the british series Spooks. It was exported to USA as > "MI-5", but the US version was roughly 10 minutes shorter per episode so > it would fit in the PBS schedule that include a few minutes to beg for > donations. There's also contractual obligations. The original UK version of Top Gear is often shortend in other countries. The main part often cut-out is the "Star in a Reasonably Priced Car" because the "star" celebrity (or their manager) has only signed over the UK rights for their appearance, not the rights in other countries. More recently this seems to have been less of a problem with.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
Page 3 of 4 — ← Prev page 1 2 [3] 4 Next page →
Back to top | Article view | comp.sys.mac.system
csiph-web