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Re: WWDC 2018

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From Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
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Subject Re: WWDC 2018
Date Tue, 5 Jun 2018 16:19:18 -0000 (UTC)
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In message <pf697s$2p2$1@news.albasani.net> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2018-06-05 10:26:50 +0000, Lewis said:

>> In message <pf59vk$c6b$1@news.albasani.net> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>> Another few things I noted: Seems they want the ATV to be the "cable
>>> box of the future" for streaming users. It's a wide open field for
>>> them.  Roku is no competition, and it seems to be an expanding market.
>> 
>> Roku certainly is competition, they have a *huge* install base and their
>> product is good.

> Right you are. It seems that Roku, along with Amazon Fire, Fire Stick 
> and even Chromecast had higher market share than ATV last summer. I 
> forgot the others even existed in my Apple bubble, I suppose.  I have 
> had a Roku box for 4 or 5 years and think it sucks, so I guess that's 
> my limited viewpoint.

I have three Roku if you count the one built in to my TV, but I don't
use any of them. I agree with you that it sucks, compared to the
AppleTV. If there were no AppleTV, the Roku would be head and shoulders
the best.

A lot of people don't value good design and look only at price. Hell,
there are people in my family who love the Roku primarily because it is
cheaper than the AppleTV.


-- 
When the chips are down, the buffalo's empty.

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  Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-04 17:13 -0400
    Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 18:17 -0700
      Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-04 21:38 -0400
        Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 23:09 -0700
        Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:25 +0000
          Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 06:41 -0700
      Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-05 13:57 +1200
        Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-04 23:18 -0400
          Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-04 23:20 -0400
            Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:31 +0000
              Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 09:33 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 16:21 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 12:35 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-06 01:25 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 21:29 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-05 21:44 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-05 22:04 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-06 14:29 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 00:42 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 01:05 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 01:16 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 18:46 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 03:22 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2018-06-06 08:45 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 12:11 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 09:22 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 12:27 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 10:35 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-06 22:20 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 12:17 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 12:27 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 12:34 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 12:40 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 10:10 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 13:33 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-07 14:57 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-07 03:19 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-08 09:32 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 00:45 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 06:45 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-07 13:49 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 20:21 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-07 09:23 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 17:40 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-07 01:12 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 16:25 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 03:19 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-06 06:37 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-06 03:23 -0400
                Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-05 18:04 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-06 01:24 +0000
                Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 12:41 -0700
              Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-05 18:03 +0000
          Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-04 23:31 -0400
          Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-04 23:39 -0400
          Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 00:36 -0400
          Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:30 +0000
        Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 23:15 -0700
          Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-05 18:40 +1200
            Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-05 00:49 -0700
              Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 13:31 +1200
                Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-05 18:36 -0700
                Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 15:25 +1200
            Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 09:33 -0400
      Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 23:18 -0700
        Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:26 +0000
          Re: WWDC 2018 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-05 08:11 -0700
            Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 16:19 +0000
        Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-05 18:00 +0000
          Re: WWDC 2018 Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2018-06-05 22:32 +0200
            Re: WWDC 2018 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-05 21:13 +0000
      Re: WWDC 2018 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:24 +0000
  Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-05 13:30 +1200
    Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 00:07 -0700
  Re: WWDC 2018 Peter Kozlov <peter.kozlov@blacksea.design> - 2018-06-05 14:33 -0700
    Re: WWDC 2018 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-06 13:37 +1200
      Re: WWDC 2018 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-05 21:44 -0400
    Re: WWDC 2018 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 22:10 -0700
  Re: WWDC 2018 Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2018-06-07 12:12 +0000
    Re: WWDC 2018 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-07 15:59 -0400
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