Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > comp.sys.mac.system > #133828

Re: Why the Liar (Arlen for those trying to selectively killfile) must selectively omit information... (was Re: Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon?

From John Doe <always.look@message.header>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.mobile.android, free.spam
Subject Re: Why the Liar (Arlen for those trying to selectively killfile) must selectively omit information... (was Re: Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon?
Date 2020-07-28 16:03 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <rfpi98$19p$2@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References <rfnn7k$5fb$1@news.mixmin.net> <rfno7q$k75$1@dont-email.me>

Cross-posted to 5 groups.

Show all headers | View raw


Chronic nym-shifting deranged troll...

-- 
Just some guy <alren@alren.alren> wrote:

> Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
> From: Just some guy <alren@alren.alren>
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10
> Subject: Why the Liar (Arlen for those trying to selectively killfile) must selectively omit information... (was Re: Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon?
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:33:12 -0700
> Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
> Lines: 71
> Message-ID: <rfno7q$k75$1@dont-email.me>
> References: <rfnn7k$5fb$1@news.mixmin.net>
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Injection-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 23:33:14 -0000 (UTC)
> Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="6755104bbb2e762038180596f1814f1d"; logging-data="20709"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org";     posting-account="U2FsdGVkX186zU4BdQH2E+51y104rFzPt2UFggwuWvQ="
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0
> Cancel-Lock: sha1:KCHI+ruGYqBFhtUjZP8ShO5Rwp8=
> In-Reply-To: <rfnn7k$5fb$1@news.mixmin.net>
> Content-Language: en-US
> Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.sys.mac.system:185815 misc.phone.mobile.iphone:136098 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:237062 comp.mobile.android:70739 alt.comp.os.windows-10:123238
> 
> ...from articles he presented as credible.
> 
> On 2020-07-27 4:16 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
>> *Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon?*
> 
> By which, Liar, you actually mean Apple-designed chips fabbed by TSMC...
> 
> ...because essentially no computer manufacturer runs their own fabs.
> 
>> 
>> Verbatim:
> 
> But leaving out the article title:
> 
> 'Apple Silicon vs Intel'
> 
> And this:
> 
> 'Fifteen years later and PC sales have plateaued and all the growth is 
> in mobile devices. And the mobile devices seeing the most growth just 
> happen to have chips designed by Apple.'
> 
> And this:
> 
> 'Apple has made it clear that this is a move to Apple Silicon, not a 
> move to ARM. Apple has developed its own System on Chips (SoCs) based on 
> ARM, but describing the resulting processors as ARM would be like saying 
> that macOS is Unix due to the fact that it is based on Unix. There is a 
> lot more to Apple's series of chips than ARM, and that's probably why 
> Apple's SoCs have proven to be superior to other ARM-based processors 
> (such as the Snapdragon suite from Qualcomm).
> 
> Apple's SoCs offer advanced features that aren't available on other ARM 
> processors, such as advanced power management, machine learning, the 
> Secure Enclave, the Neural Engine, Apple's own GPU, and much more.'
> 
> And this:
> 
> 'When Silicon Macs arrive Apple says that they will support Apple GPUs. 
> While it's probable that Apple's integrated graphics will offer a boost 
> compared to the Intel integrated graphics, there are concerns that Apple 
> intends to replace AMD GPUs with its own.
> 
> It shouldn't be a surprise that Apple can design a GPU. Apple already 
> uses its own GPUs inside iPads and iPhones with a lot of success,'
> 
> 
>>   "*Why is Apple ditching Intel?*"
>>    <https://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac/apple-silicon-vs-intel-3793039/>
>> 
>>   "The move from Intel to a custom ARM based chip would offer a number of
>>    benefits to Apple, namely
>>    (1) not being dependent on Intel's processor release schedule,
>>    (2) increased profit margins, and
>>    (3) improved market share if Apple passed its savings onto the consumer"
>> 
>>   "Apple has outlined its own reasons for the move away from Intel."
>>    
>>   "The transition would establish a common architecture across all Apple
>>    products, making it far easier for developers to write and optimise
>>    their apps for the entire ecosystem."
>> 
>>   "Developers will be able to make their iOS and iPadOS apps available on
>>    the Mac without any modifications"
>> 
> 
> The whole article repeatedly makes the point that Apple is designing its 
> own processors, Liar.
> 
> So why is it those words are "verbatim", and implicitly to be trusted, 
> but not the words you left out?
> 
> 

Back to comp.sys.mac.system | Previous | NextPrevious in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-27 23:16 +0000
  Why the Liar (Arlen for those trying to selectively killfile) must selectively omit information... (was Re: Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon? Just some guy <alren@alren.alren> - 2020-07-27 16:33 -0700
    Re: Why the Liar (Arlen for those trying to selectively killfile) must selectively omit information... (was Re: Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon? John Doe <always.look@message.header> - 2020-07-28 16:03 +0000
  Re: Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-12-02 04:59 +0000

csiph-web