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| From | John Doe <always.look@message.header> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.mobile.android, free.spam |
| Subject | Re: Why the Liar (Arlen for those trying to selectively killfile) must selectively omit information... (was Re: Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon? |
| Date | 2020-07-28 16:03 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <rfpi98$19p$2@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <rfnn7k$5fb$1@news.mixmin.net> <rfno7q$k75$1@dont-email.me> |
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Chronic nym-shifting deranged troll... -- Just some guy <alren@alren.alren> wrote: > Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail > From: Just some guy <alren@alren.alren> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.mobile.android,alt.comp.os.windows-10 > Subject: Why the Liar (Arlen for those trying to selectively killfile) must selectively omit information... (was Re: Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon? > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:33:12 -0700 > Organization: A noiseless patient Spider > Lines: 71 > Message-ID: <rfno7q$k75$1@dont-email.me> > References: <rfnn7k$5fb$1@news.mixmin.net> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Injection-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 23:33:14 -0000 (UTC) > Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="6755104bbb2e762038180596f1814f1d"; logging-data="20709"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX186zU4BdQH2E+51y104rFzPt2UFggwuWvQ=" > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 > Cancel-Lock: sha1:KCHI+ruGYqBFhtUjZP8ShO5Rwp8= > In-Reply-To: <rfnn7k$5fb$1@news.mixmin.net> > Content-Language: en-US > Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.sys.mac.system:185815 misc.phone.mobile.iphone:136098 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:237062 comp.mobile.android:70739 alt.comp.os.windows-10:123238 > > ...from articles he presented as credible. > > On 2020-07-27 4:16 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote: >> *Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon?* > > By which, Liar, you actually mean Apple-designed chips fabbed by TSMC... > > ...because essentially no computer manufacturer runs their own fabs. > >> >> Verbatim: > > But leaving out the article title: > > 'Apple Silicon vs Intel' > > And this: > > 'Fifteen years later and PC sales have plateaued and all the growth is > in mobile devices. And the mobile devices seeing the most growth just > happen to have chips designed by Apple.' > > And this: > > 'Apple has made it clear that this is a move to Apple Silicon, not a > move to ARM. Apple has developed its own System on Chips (SoCs) based on > ARM, but describing the resulting processors as ARM would be like saying > that macOS is Unix due to the fact that it is based on Unix. There is a > lot more to Apple's series of chips than ARM, and that's probably why > Apple's SoCs have proven to be superior to other ARM-based processors > (such as the Snapdragon suite from Qualcomm). > > Apple's SoCs offer advanced features that aren't available on other ARM > processors, such as advanced power management, machine learning, the > Secure Enclave, the Neural Engine, Apple's own GPU, and much more.' > > And this: > > 'When Silicon Macs arrive Apple says that they will support Apple GPUs. > While it's probable that Apple's integrated graphics will offer a boost > compared to the Intel integrated graphics, there are concerns that Apple > intends to replace AMD GPUs with its own. > > It shouldn't be a surprise that Apple can design a GPU. Apple already > uses its own GPUs inside iPads and iPhones with a lot of success,' > > >> "*Why is Apple ditching Intel?*" >> <https://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac/apple-silicon-vs-intel-3793039/> >> >> "The move from Intel to a custom ARM based chip would offer a number of >> benefits to Apple, namely >> (1) not being dependent on Intel's processor release schedule, >> (2) increased profit margins, and >> (3) improved market share if Apple passed its savings onto the consumer" >> >> "Apple has outlined its own reasons for the move away from Intel." >> >> "The transition would establish a common architecture across all Apple >> products, making it far easier for developers to write and optimise >> their apps for the entire ecosystem." >> >> "Developers will be able to make their iOS and iPadOS apps available on >> the Mac without any modifications" >> > > The whole article repeatedly makes the point that Apple is designing its > own processors, Liar. > > So why is it those words are "verbatim", and implicitly to be trusted, > but not the words you left out? > >
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Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-27 23:16 +0000
Why the Liar (Arlen for those trying to selectively killfile) must selectively omit information... (was Re: Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon? Just some guy <alren@alren.alren> - 2020-07-27 16:33 -0700
Re: Why the Liar (Arlen for those trying to selectively killfile) must selectively omit information... (was Re: Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon? John Doe <always.look@message.header> - 2020-07-28 16:03 +0000
Re: Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon? Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-12-02 04:59 +0000
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