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Why the Liar (Arlen for those trying to selectively killfile) must selectively omit information... (was Re: Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon?

From Just some guy <alren@alren.alren>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Why the Liar (Arlen for those trying to selectively killfile) must selectively omit information... (was Re: Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon?
Date 2020-07-27 16:33 -0700
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <rfno7q$k75$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References <rfnn7k$5fb$1@news.mixmin.net>

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...from articles he presented as credible.

On 2020-07-27 4:16 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> *Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon?*

By which, Liar, you actually mean Apple-designed chips fabbed by TSMC...

...because essentially no computer manufacturer runs their own fabs.

> 
> Verbatim:

But leaving out the article title:

'Apple Silicon vs Intel'

And this:

'Fifteen years later and PC sales have plateaued and all the growth is 
in mobile devices. And the mobile devices seeing the most growth just 
happen to have chips designed by Apple.'

And this:

'Apple has made it clear that this is a move to Apple Silicon, not a 
move to ARM. Apple has developed its own System on Chips (SoCs) based on 
ARM, but describing the resulting processors as ARM would be like saying 
that macOS is Unix due to the fact that it is based on Unix. There is a 
lot more to Apple's series of chips than ARM, and that's probably why 
Apple's SoCs have proven to be superior to other ARM-based processors 
(such as the Snapdragon suite from Qualcomm).

Apple's SoCs offer advanced features that aren't available on other ARM 
processors, such as advanced power management, machine learning, the 
Secure Enclave, the Neural Engine, Apple's own GPU, and much more.'

And this:

'When Silicon Macs arrive Apple says that they will support Apple GPUs. 
While it's probable that Apple's integrated graphics will offer a boost 
compared to the Intel integrated graphics, there are concerns that Apple 
intends to replace AMD GPUs with its own.

It shouldn't be a surprise that Apple can design a GPU. Apple already 
uses its own GPUs inside iPads and iPhones with a lot of success,'


>   "*Why is Apple ditching Intel?*"
>    <https://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac/apple-silicon-vs-intel-3793039/>
> 
>   "The move from Intel to a custom ARM based chip would offer a number of
>    benefits to Apple, namely
>    (1) not being dependent on Intel's processor release schedule,
>    (2) increased profit margins, and
>    (3) improved market share if Apple passed its savings onto the consumer"
> 
>   "Apple has outlined its own reasons for the move away from Intel."
>    
>   "The transition would establish a common architecture across all Apple
>    products, making it far easier for developers to write and optimise
>    their apps for the entire ecosystem."
> 
>   "Developers will be able to make their iOS and iPadOS apps available on
>    the Mac without any modifications"
> 

The whole article repeatedly makes the point that Apple is designing its 
own processors, Liar.

So why is it those words are "verbatim", and implicitly to be trusted, 
but not the words you left out?

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Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon? Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-07-27 23:16 +0000
  Why the Liar (Arlen for those trying to selectively killfile) must selectively omit information... (was Re: Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon? Just some guy <alren@alren.alren> - 2020-07-27 16:33 -0700
    Re: Why the Liar (Arlen for those trying to selectively killfile) must selectively omit information... (was Re: Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon? John Doe <always.look@message.header> - 2020-07-28 16:03 +0000
  Re: Why is Apple ditching Intel to go with ARM-based Macs on TSMC Silicon? Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-12-02 04:59 +0000

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