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Re: First leaked reputed benchmarks for Apple ARM (aka what MARKETING is desperate for you to term "Apple Silicon")

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On 2020-06-30 11:26 a.m., nospam wrote:
> In article <slrnrfmvsr.1t4r.g.kreme@ProMini.lan>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
>>>> AH ignores the fact that the A12z used in the transition kit is 2 years
>>>> old and not the A14 that will be in Apple Silicon based Macs..
>>
>>> the a14 will not be used in apple silicon macs.
>>
>> Almost certainly so, but we do not know at all what the chips in the new
>> Macs will be.
> 
> nor do we know what the a14 will be.
> 
> however, we do know that the macs won't be using an a* series.
> 
>>> the a* series were designed for mobile devices, namely iphone and ipad.
>>
>> It will almost certainly have more cores than the A12Z
> 
> yep, given that a phone has very tight power, thermal and size
> constraints, whereas a laptop and desktop do not.
> 
>>> what will go into apple silicon macs will be an entirely new chip
>>> category, optimized for laptop/desktop use which have very different
>>> design constraints.
>>
>> That would be my guess, yes.
> 
> not just a guess, but it's been confirmed.
> 
>> The "benchmarks" on the DTK are entirely meaningless. The DTK is not a
>> product.
> 
> not entirely meaningless.
> 
> it's a lower bound which the actual products will greatly surpass.
> 

And as AppleInsider points out, the benchmarks are pretty good when 
compared to existing Mac Minis.

'In terms of performance, the Geekbench 5 benchmark lists the Core i3 at 
949 for single-core tests and 3,197 for multi-core, and the Core i7 at 
1,205 and 6,024 for single and multi-core scores respectively. 
Benchmarks for the A12Z Bionic in the iPad Pro put it at 1,118 points 
for single-core tests, and 4,625 for multi-core, again putting it 
between the two extremes of the Mac mini's processors.'

<https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/06/23/compared-apples-developer-transition-kit-versus-mac-mini>

And as they also point out, that's how the A12Z scores when it is 
constrained by thermal limits in a tablet enclosure with no fan.

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First leaked reputed benchmarks for Apple ARM (aka what MARKETING is desperate for you to term "Apple Silicon") Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 04:42 +0000
  Re: First leaked reputed benchmarks for Apple ARM (aka what MARKETING is desperate for you to term "Apple Silicon") Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 04:50 +0000
    Re: First leaked reputed benchmarks for Apple ARM (aka what MARKETING is desperate for you to term "Apple Silicon") Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 05:02 +0000
  Re: First leaked reputed benchmarks for Apple ARM (aka what MARKETING is desperate for you to term "Apple Silicon") Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-30 00:38 -0700
  Re: First leaked reputed benchmarks for Apple ARM (aka what MARKETING is desperate for you to term "Apple Silicon") joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2020-06-30 08:07 -0500
    Re: First leaked reputed benchmarks for Apple ARM (aka what MARKETING is desperate for you to term "Apple Silicon") nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-06-30 09:42 -0400
      Re: First leaked reputed benchmarks for Apple ARM (aka what MARKETING is desperate for you to term "Apple Silicon") joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2020-06-30 09:39 -0500
      Re: First leaked reputed benchmarks for Apple ARM (aka what MARKETING is desperate for you to term "Apple Silicon") Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 17:16 +0000
      Re: First leaked reputed benchmarks for Apple ARM (aka what MARKETING is desperate for you to term "Apple Silicon") Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-30 18:08 +0000
        Re: First leaked reputed benchmarks for Apple ARM (aka what MARKETING is desperate for you to term "Apple Silicon") nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-06-30 14:26 -0400
          Re: First leaked reputed benchmarks for Apple ARM (aka what MARKETING is desperate for you to term "Apple Silicon") Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-30 12:25 -0700
            Re: First leaked reputed benchmarks for Apple ARM (aka what MARKETING is desperate for you to term "Apple Silicon") Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-06-30 22:38 +0000
          Re: First leaked reputed benchmarks for Apple ARM (aka what MARKETING is desperate for you to term "Apple Silicon") Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 23:58 +0000
    Re: First leaked reputed benchmarks for Apple ARM (aka what MARKETING is desperate for you to term "Apple Silicon") Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-30 16:56 +0000

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