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Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid!

From	Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Tim Cook just literally said his customer is unfathomably stupid!
Date	2019-01-14 18:20 -0800
Organization	Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID	<q1jg19$o7n$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink)
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On 2019-01-14 5:49 p.m., arlen holder wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 19:16:36 -0500, nospam wrote:
> 
>>> Google doesn't know a thing about it.
>>> o I downloaded the IDE software without telling Google who I was
>>> o I use the IDE software without telling Google who I am
>>> o I side loaded the apps to my phone without telling Google who I am
>>
>> same for ios.
> 
> Hi nospam,
> You Apologists can't even keep your lies straight, nospam.
> Seriously.
> 
> Do you remember these are your very words?
>    "everyone who uses an ios device already has an apple id,
>     just as those who use an android device has a google id. "
> 
> Those words are from YOU, nospam, when you _admitted_ that
> you _must_ provide Apple with an Apple ID just to DOWNLOAD the IDE, for
> Christs' sake.
> (And oh, you're an idiot, too, as Android does NOT require a Google ID.)

And what does it matter if you need an Apple ID, twit boy?

> 
> And then, you said these very words, did you not, nospam?
>    "although it's possible to use either without that, it's a significant
>     hassle with zero benefit and substantial drawbacks."
> 
> Those are your very words, are they not, nospam?
> And these too, are they not?
>    "however, for those overwhelmed with fear and paranoia,
>     create an apple id using a fake name. "
> 
> The point is, nospam:
> o You and Jolly Roger incessantly fabricate imaginary iOS functionality
> o You don't even get the Android functionality correct (you're that stupid)
> o Just _downloading_ the iOS IDE has you lose privacy (Android doesn't)

No. Creating an Apple ID doesn't cost you any privacy.

> 
> The point is that there are so many examples where iOS users have
> *far less privacy* than do Android users, that anyone who says that
> they have "more privacy" had better use facts, and not idiotic religious
> dogma.

And yet you've provided no examples...

> 
> The fact you & Jolly Roger can't every speak facts, speaks worlds already.
> Facts have absolutely no place to fit into your (religious) belief system.
> 
> The fact is, iOS has _plenty_ of situations where the privacy is far worse
> than that of Android, and iOS has far fewer privacy enhancing utilities,
> and yet, since there are plenty of global privacy leaking attributes of
> _all_ common consumer mobile phones, I'll be charitable to iOS by saying
> that the privacy between the two platforms is "about the same".

And what are some of these situations?

> 
> Everything depends on how much you weigh each of the facts, where I already
> presented at least a dozen situations where Android privacy is far better
> than that of iOS.

No. You really haven't.

> 
> That you think otherwise is merely because you're never beholden to fact.
> And yet, EVERY one of your rebuttals is easily refuted WITH FACTS.
> 
> I've been studying you Apologists for a very long time, simply because
> you Apologists are not at all like normal adults are.
> 
> You see, nospam, the biggest weakness of all Apologists - is FACT.
> 
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