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Re: Apple's in trouble again

From Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Apple's in trouble again
Date 2015-01-31 16:53 -0800
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On 2015-01-31 22:49:55 +0000, JF Mezei said:

> On 15-01-31 16:26, Your Name wrote:
> 
>> A specific server model is rather pointless and sell even less than the
>> Mac Pro. There are companies that sell rack mounts for both Mac Mini
>> and Mac Pro models -
> 
> Have you been in a modern data centre ? They wouldn't let you put in
> equipment not designed to be rack mounted, and this is on a cooling
> point of view.

And there are solutions to let you rack mount a Mac Mini...

> 
> New generation racks have a hot zone in back and a cold zone in front.
> Racks are back to back, so the aisle between 2 backs is very hot, and
> the aisle between 2 fronts is very cold.
> 
> Equipment MUST push air from cold to hot zone and not let hot air from
> the back bleed back to front. The old MacPro cabinet could do that but
> is extremely bulky and can't be maintained without being fully
> disconnected and pulled out.  You don't want to have hundreds of such
> servers in racks. And because it takes so mucvh space you would be
> paying through the roof since data centres charge by the 1Us.

And yet:

<https://www.google.com/search?q=mac+colocation&espv=2&biw=1491&bih=870&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=jHjNVI64K4HYoATrloGoDA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAw> 


And:

<http://macstadium.com/mac-pro>

> 
> the Minis don't have proper ventilation so you would have to have a
> rackmount kit with oproper ventilation and the minis inside.

Right:

<http://www.sonnettech.com/product/rackmacmini.html>

<http://www.sonnettech.com/product/xmacminiserver.html>

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Apple's in trouble again Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-28 08:53 -0500
  Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-28 14:41 +0000
    Re: Apple's in trouble again Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2015-01-28 08:47 -0600
      Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-28 15:14 +0000
        Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-28 15:18 +0000
          Re: Apple's in trouble again Julian Gomez <jeg@polished-pixels.com> - 2015-01-29 00:06 -0800
      Re: Apple's in trouble again Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-01-28 10:55 -0500
        Re: Apple's in trouble again Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-01-28 11:11 -0500
          Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-28 17:02 +0000
        Re: Apple's in trouble again Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-01-28 17:14 +0000
          Re: Apple's in trouble again Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-01-28 21:18 +0000
            Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-28 21:34 +0000
    Re: Apple's in trouble again George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2015-01-28 15:31 -0600
      Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-28 21:41 +0000
  Re: Apple's in trouble again JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-28 13:24 -0500
    Re: Apple's in trouble again Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-28 23:10 +0000
  Re: Apple's in trouble again nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-01-28 13:23 -0700
    Re: Apple's in trouble again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-28 13:52 -0700
      Re: Apple's in trouble again JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-28 15:56 -0500
      Re: Apple's in trouble again nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-28 16:01 -0500
        Re: Apple's in trouble again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-28 14:09 -0700
          Re: Apple's in trouble again nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-28 16:15 -0500
            Re: Apple's in trouble again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-28 22:01 -0700
      Re: Apple's in trouble again sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-29 18:16 +0000
        Re: Apple's in trouble again Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-29 20:23 +0000
        Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-29 22:18 +0000
          Re: Apple's in trouble again sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-30 00:38 +0000
            Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-30 15:15 +0000
        Re: Apple's in trouble again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-29 20:36 -0700
          Re: Apple's in trouble again sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-30 04:31 +0000
    Re: Apple's in trouble again Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-29 14:30 +1300
      Re: Apple's in trouble again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-28 22:25 -0700
        Re: Apple's in trouble again Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-29 10:42 +0000
          Re: Apple's in trouble again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-29 07:50 -0700
            Re: Apple's in trouble again Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-29 16:11 +0000
              Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-29 16:40 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-29 18:19 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-29 20:25 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-01-29 23:37 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-30 10:16 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-30 15:22 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-30 10:28 -0800
                Re: Apple's in trouble again "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2015-01-31 19:44 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-01-29 18:36 -0800
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-30 02:42 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-01-29 18:32 -0800
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-30 10:14 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-30 08:59 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-30 16:23 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-31 10:37 +1300
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-30 15:19 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-31 12:59 +1300
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-31 00:15 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-31 07:51 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-31 14:26 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-31 10:51 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-31 16:07 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-31 12:29 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-31 20:22 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-31 18:53 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-02-01 16:31 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-01 16:36 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-02-01 19:14 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-01 19:26 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-01 12:31 -0800
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-01 21:48 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-01 13:56 -0800
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-01 23:22 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-02-01 20:07 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-02-01 12:31 -0800
                Re: Apple's in trouble again nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-02-01 17:11 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-02-01 22:55 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Savageduck <savageduck1@{removespam}me.com> - 2015-02-01 23:58 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-02 09:37 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-02 11:35 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-02 16:53 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-02 13:11 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-02 18:21 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-02 14:27 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-02-02 17:12 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-02 23:14 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-03 09:14 +1300
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-02-02 16:12 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-02-03 09:36 +1100
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-02 23:12 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-02 18:28 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-03 13:24 +1300
                Re: Apple's in trouble again JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-02 23:56 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-02-02 22:40 -0700
                Re: Apple's in trouble again JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-02-03 17:28 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2015-02-04 08:32 -0600
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-05 09:13 +1300
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-02-01 22:28 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-02 14:15 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-02 14:13 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-31 18:51 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-01 01:05 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-02-01 09:43 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-01 15:49 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2015-01-31 09:39 +0100
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-31 12:37 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-31 14:25 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-01-31 15:14 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-01 10:31 +1300
              Re: Apple's in trouble again Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-30 09:03 +1300
              Re: Apple's in trouble again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-29 20:31 -0700
            Re: Apple's in trouble again George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2015-01-29 10:47 -0600
          Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-29 15:16 +0000
          Re: Apple's in trouble again George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2015-01-29 10:36 -0600
            Re: Apple's in trouble again Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-29 16:45 +0000
              Re: Apple's in trouble again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-29 20:35 -0700
              Re: Apple's in trouble again George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2015-01-30 09:09 -0600
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-30 16:27 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-31 10:31 +1300
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-30 16:37 -0700
                Re: Apple's in trouble again George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2015-01-30 19:18 -0600
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-31 10:01 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-01 10:08 +1300
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-31 15:51 -0700
                Re: Apple's in trouble again JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-31 12:20 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-31 12:18 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-31 20:20 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-01 10:26 +1300
                Re: Apple's in trouble again JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-31 17:49 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-31 16:53 -0800
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-01 13:56 +1300
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-01 13:01 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-01-30 19:17 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Wilbur Eleven <wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> - 2015-01-31 08:52 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-31 13:53 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-31 12:26 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Wilbur Eleven <wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> - 2015-01-31 15:06 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-31 20:22 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-31 23:35 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Wilbur Eleven <wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> - 2015-02-01 09:20 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-31 18:54 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2015-01-30 19:16 -0600
          Re: Apple's in trouble again sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-29 18:17 +0000
            Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-29 22:21 +0000
              Re: Apple's in trouble again sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-01-30 00:34 +0000
              Re: Apple's in trouble again JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-30 23:01 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-01-30 22:00 -0700
                Re: Apple's in trouble again JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-31 12:24 -0500
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-31 10:02 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-31 14:24 +0000
                Re: Apple's in trouble again Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-01 10:22 +1300
          Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-29 19:34 -0500
        Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-30 10:01 -0500
          Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-30 15:28 +0000
            Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-30 11:02 -0500
  Re: Apple's in trouble again Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-01-28 13:33 -0800
    Re: Apple's in trouble again Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-01-28 22:41 +0000
  Re: Apple's in trouble again Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-01-28 23:05 +0000
    Re: Apple's in trouble again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-28 23:13 +0000
    Re: Apple's in trouble again Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-01-30 10:50 -0500

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