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| From | J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.system |
| Subject | Re: Experience with Smith Micro? |
| Date | 2014-02-05 21:56 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <lcutlf$va7$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (1 earlier) <7hbnymytl5.fsf@ethel.the.log> <201402050503417065-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> <gcy51p1vx8.fsf@ethel.the.log> <SalmonEgg-A74B4B.11023505022014@news80.forteinc.com> <h-ydncr4CsadXG_PnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
On 2/5/14, 5:53 PM, Alan Browne wrote: > On 2014.02.05, 14:02 , Salmon Egg wrote: >> In article <gcy51p1vx8.fsf@ethel.the.log>, >> Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>> So it does nothing? >>> >>> For audiophiles with really refined ears, the difference is like night >>> and day. >> >> It does something only with their imaginations. What does monster cable >> actually do? Can you compare the transfer function of monster cable to >> that of cheap speaker wire for a q0 or 20 foot run? What does it do for >> the shape of a square wave at 1 or 5 kHz? How big are the effects of >> using small speaker wires compared to room resonances in a typical audio >> "listening" room? We are not talking about an anechoic chamber that >> would have been in the former Bell Labs. > > > There are simple rules (formulae) for speaker impedance, wire run length > and power (for a given wire type such as copper) that put a lower bound > on the size of the wire. If the wire is that thickness or thicker, > you're done. To be conservative, if the calculation indicates 14 gauge, > for example, then one could use 12 gauge for additional margin. > > Wire coat hangars are just as good as 10 or 12 gauge wire, for example. > It looks to me as if a wire coat hanger has resistance about equal to 20 gauge copper. Maybe you mean a hanger for wire coats. My wire coat is pretty heavy (and not very warm), so I guess the hanger would be a bigger gauge than an ordinary coat hanger. Headphone jacks used to have a 220-ohm resistor in series. I listened to my Koss Pro4AAs for years that way. Then I read about damping factors. A speaker resonates at certain frequencies. It will resonate less if fed by a lower impedance relative to the speaker's characteristic impedance. So I used a resistor network to feed my phones with 2 ohms. What an improvement! I don't know about skin effect and high frequencies, but 14 gauge copper might offer a significantly better damping factor than 28 gauge.
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Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-04 21:56 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-04 22:14 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-02-05 05:03 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 06:22 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-02-05 12:24 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 10:52 -0700
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-02-05 12:53 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-02-05 13:04 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 13:34 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 17:48 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-05 23:40 +0000
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 20:14 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-02-05 21:59 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 22:18 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-02-05 23:12 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-05 11:02 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 11:16 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 17:54 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 15:39 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 17:53 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-02-05 21:56 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-06 18:12 +0000
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-02-06 17:59 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-06 18:18 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-07 03:09 +0000
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-08 16:51 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-09 03:51 +0000
Re: soured vibrations J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-02-07 10:10 -0500
Re: soured vibrations Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-07 16:39 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-07 16:50 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-02-07 18:11 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-09 15:49 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-02-09 21:01 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-10 00:26 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-02-10 11:39 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-10 16:51 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-02-13 05:48 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-08 22:53 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-09 09:16 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-05 19:16 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-05 23:09 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-02-06 00:27 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-06 01:20 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-08 16:42 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Jim Gibson <jimsgibson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 12:38 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-07 16:52 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-05 06:20 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 12:13 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 10:47 -0700
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-05 11:36 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 15:39 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 18:10 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-02-05 22:14 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-07 16:45 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-02-07 23:38 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-08 09:34 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-09 16:15 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-02-09 21:52 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-05 11:22 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 15:39 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-05 18:36 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 21:43 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 18:04 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 18:19 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 21:03 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 21:40 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-02-05 23:21 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-06 08:47 +0100
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-07 16:55 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-07 18:43 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-07 18:48 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 02:09 +0000
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-07 22:23 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-07 22:23 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-08 09:32 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-08 12:54 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-09 16:32 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-09 22:38 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-07 19:48 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 10:25 -0700
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-02-05 12:58 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-05 11:48 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 13:34 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-05 12:13 -0700
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 11:18 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 15:39 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-02-05 22:34 +0000
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-05 23:10 +0000
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-05 18:19 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2014-02-06 23:56 +0000
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-05 17:45 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Jim Jaeger <jimjaeger@example.com> - 2014-02-04 23:04 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-05 06:28 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Jim Jaeger <jimjaeger@example.com> - 2014-02-05 11:04 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-05 20:47 +0000
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Alan Ralph <alan.ralph@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 18:22 +0000
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-08 16:09 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-08 20:01 -0500
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-09 16:46 -0800
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-09 01:26 +0000
Re: Experience with Smith Micro? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Kiraly) - 2014-02-05 23:49 +0000
Re: Experience Smith Micro Progress maybe Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-02-11 15:56 -0800
Re: Experience Smith Micro Progress maybe Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-11 19:13 -0500
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