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Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader

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On 2014-01-23 23:31:43 +0000, David Empson said:

> Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Have you tried turning "always show" back on for scrollbars?
> 
> It doesn't help.

Weird.  I guess I don't think about it much because I've got trackpads 
and a MagicMouse.

[and I was really caught by surprise the other day, checking something 
for an officemate
on our machine there, running 10.9, and with old-fashioned scroll 
direction still set! ]

I definitely get some weird behavior in Preview.

The default setting, btw, seems to always be "zoom" - which means, 
apparently, zoom _horizontal_ dimension (only thing that makes sense 
for "continuous" but should be one of two choices for single-page view).

Setting to "Actual" so that I can resize the window and create a need 
to scroll horizontally, I get different behavior on two different 
machines right now.  (Both running 10.9).

On the machine with the Magic Mouse, I *do* get horizontal scroll bars, 
and a swipe on the mouse also works just fine.

On the other machine, with a multitouch trackpad, I get no scroll bar, 
but I can scroll via two-finger swipe on the trackpad.

And in both places, Adobe Reader just does the right thing.  Scroll and 
scrollbars work fine.  And under zoom, as one might reasonably expect, 
one of the options is "fit width", labeled as it ought to be.

Still, even with all this silliness, I really prefer Preview.  I only 
have Adobe Reader installed because of one vendor who apparently 
"upgraded" their form generation software and in doing so, are now 
generating some forms which Preview cannot open.  The docs are 
nominally PDF 1.7 docs (the ISO 32000-1 standard), but I still get the 
"Please wait... If this message is not eventually replaced by the 
proper contents of the document, your PDF viewer may not be able to 
display this type of document."  Why I get that with a PDF1.7 doc in 
Preview, I do not know.  And the vendor just hasn't got a clue.  (The 
documents are benig generated by Adobe LiveCycle Designer ES 9.0 -- per 
the Info window that Preview happily shows, even though it can't show 
the doc contents itself.  While another document from the same vendor, 
also a PDF1.7, also generated with the same version of LiveCycle 
Designer, opens just fine in Preview and in Adobe Reader.  Go figure.)

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Preview vs Adobe Reader J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 15:33 -0500
  Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-20 20:41 +0000
    Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 16:03 -0500
      Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-20 16:17 -0500
        Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 17:35 -0500
          Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 13:35 +1300
            Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 21:05 -0500
              Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 16:40 +1300
                Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 22:50 -0500
                Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 18:52 +1300
        Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-01-21 12:20 +1300
          Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-01-21 14:09 +0000
          Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2014-01-23 14:26 -0800
            Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-01-24 12:31 +1300
              Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-23 16:34 -0800
              Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2014-01-23 16:40 -0800
  Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-20 16:08 -0500
    Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 17:35 -0500
    Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 13:39 +1300
      Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2014-01-20 19:21 -0600
  Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 13:37 +1300
    Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 20:15 -0500
    Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 23:38 -0500
      Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-21 04:46 -0500
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