Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!news.linkpendium.com!news.linkpendium.com!panix!not-for-mail From: Bread Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:40:59 -0800 Organization: lined up neatly Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <200120142041582810%timstreater@greenbee.net> <52dd925e$0$51443$c3e8da3$eb767761@news.astraweb.com> <1lftom5.1qqlkd31yrks53N%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> <1lfz8xl.2ywh2j1g5rgyuN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1390524060 7479 127.0.0.1 (24 Jan 2014 00:41:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 00:41:00 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Unison/2.1.10 Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:55245 On 2014-01-23 23:31:43 +0000, David Empson said: > Bread wrote: >> >> Have you tried turning "always show" back on for scrollbars? > > It doesn't help. Weird. I guess I don't think about it much because I've got trackpads and a MagicMouse. [and I was really caught by surprise the other day, checking something for an officemate on our machine there, running 10.9, and with old-fashioned scroll direction still set! ] I definitely get some weird behavior in Preview. The default setting, btw, seems to always be "zoom" - which means, apparently, zoom _horizontal_ dimension (only thing that makes sense for "continuous" but should be one of two choices for single-page view). Setting to "Actual" so that I can resize the window and create a need to scroll horizontally, I get different behavior on two different machines right now. (Both running 10.9). On the machine with the Magic Mouse, I *do* get horizontal scroll bars, and a swipe on the mouse also works just fine. On the other machine, with a multitouch trackpad, I get no scroll bar, but I can scroll via two-finger swipe on the trackpad. And in both places, Adobe Reader just does the right thing. Scroll and scrollbars work fine. And under zoom, as one might reasonably expect, one of the options is "fit width", labeled as it ought to be. Still, even with all this silliness, I really prefer Preview. I only have Adobe Reader installed because of one vendor who apparently "upgraded" their form generation software and in doing so, are now generating some forms which Preview cannot open. The docs are nominally PDF 1.7 docs (the ISO 32000-1 standard), but I still get the "Please wait... If this message is not eventually replaced by the proper contents of the document, your PDF viewer may not be able to display this type of document." Why I get that with a PDF1.7 doc in Preview, I do not know. And the vendor just hasn't got a clue. (The documents are benig generated by Adobe LiveCycle Designer ES 9.0 -- per the Info window that Preview happily shows, even though it can't show the doc contents itself. While another document from the same vendor, also a PDF1.7, also generated with the same version of LiveCycle Designer, opens just fine in Preview and in Adobe Reader. Go figure.)