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Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models

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Subject Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models
Date 2013-09-29 13:47 -0700
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On 2013-09-28 22:10:08 +0000, Alan Browne said:

> Silly ass Johnny Ive again.
> 
> Really NO need at all for the slimness of the latest iMacs (late 2012) 
> - or for that matter since the first intel iMacs.

Argh!  Don't make me agree with you!  But I do.  I generally like a lot 
of what he brings to design - clean lines, simplicity, etc.

But I think he's gone over the top with the 2012 iMac.  In fact, when 
they came out, I immediately got myself a great deal on a factory 
refurb late 2011 iMac (under $1000).

I think the 2011 was just about the perfect compromise - the DVD (which 
I am *not* ready to give up - I use mine all the time) and the SD slot 
are easily accessible but not noticable nor ugly.  The various other 
connectors - USB, FW, TB -- I don't plug and unplug many of those very 
frequently, so having them in the back doesn't bother me.  If I needed 
to plug and unplug more often, I'd really like to have one either 
front- or side- mounted, but there are ways to get that functionality 
easily enough.  Meanwhile, it's still got a relatively easily (not 
easily enough, IMO) hard drive (also glossing over the issue of the 
custom controller/temperature issue), and very easily accessible memory.

The 2012 did away with a *lot*, starting with the DVD, but going down 
the road to making the screen attach in such a way that opening the 
machine up is a very bad idea, and making the RAM and HD pretty 
completely inaccessible.  Admittedly, I rarely change the RAM (but I'm 
very glad I was able to add market-priced RAM to my 2011), but I 
swapped out the HD on my previous iMac at least 4 or 5 times due either 
to failures or to replacing with larger or faster drives.

They've really made it about as un-maintain/upgradable as the 
MacBookAir now.  I don't think this is an improvement.

The only thing I miss on my 2011 versus the 2012 and 2013 is USB3.  The 
incremental improvement in CPU speed is not huge (the newest may be 
1.3x as fast as mine?), meanwhile, should I be interested in doing so, 
I can easily stick a very reasonably priced standard model SSD into my 
2011 and that would probably make every day activities on the thing 
seem blazingly fast.

I do like that the 2012 is lighter and runs cooler.  But I don't think 
the tradeoffs, overall, were worth it.  I really love my 2011.  In 
fact, I have two 2011s (I'd bought one for my office about 6 months 
before the 2012s were released, in addition to the one I got just after 
the 2012s were released - I'd been waiting to see what they did and 
when I saw, it was an easy choice.)

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[NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-09-25 08:58 +1200
  Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-24 17:50 -0400
    Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-09-25 10:53 -0400
      Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-25 16:43 -0400
      Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models - ping Fred Moore Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-26 17:17 -0400
  Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-09-25 03:21 +0000
    Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-25 16:44 -0400
  Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Michael Savich <michaelusenet@icloud.com> - 2013-09-28 16:36 -0400
    Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-28 17:01 -0400
      Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-09-29 09:48 +1200
        Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-28 18:10 -0400
          Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-09-29 11:45 +1200
            Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-29 07:23 -0400
          Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-09-29 13:47 -0700
            Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-29 17:56 -0400
              Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-09-29 19:16 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-09-30 13:27 +1200
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-29 20:51 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-09-30 16:44 +1200
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-09-30 16:45 +1200
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-05 10:05 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-06 10:15 +1300
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-05 17:59 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-06 17:32 +1300
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-09-30 01:41 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-01 09:25 +1200
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-09-30 16:41 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-01 20:07 +1200
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 09:08 -0700
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-01 11:14 -0700
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 11:39 -0700
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-01 13:42 -0700
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-01 15:48 -0700
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-01 16:30 -0700
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-03 16:32 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-01 21:34 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-02 16:03 +1200
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-03 16:29 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-04 12:19 +0000
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-05 10:04 +1200
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-04 18:33 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-04 19:26 -0700
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2013-10-05 03:52 -0600
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-05 10:00 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-04 23:05 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-05 09:59 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-01 17:14 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-01 17:05 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-09-30 12:14 -0700
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-01 09:26 +1200
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-09-30 16:42 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-09-30 14:06 -0700
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-01 20:15 +1200
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-01 18:35 +0200
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                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-01 20:16 +1200
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-03 16:34 -0400
                Re: [NEWS] Apple releases updated iMac models Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-09-29 20:49 -0400
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