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Re: Question about wildcards in Unix

From Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Question about wildcards in Unix
Date 2014-01-20 16:42 -0800
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References (6 earlier) <200120140949112743%timstreater@greenbee.net> <nzvbxe4bhy.fsf@ethel.the.log> <52dd91ed$0$51443$c3e8da3$eb767761@news.astraweb.com> <8ffvoiz4n2.fsf@ethel.the.log> <200120141844429266%nospam@nospam.invalid>

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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:

> In article <8ffvoiz4n2.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > If it takes an hour to find out the correct invocation of a command, you
> > > might still call the shell powerfull, but is it usefull?
> > 
> > The more powerful a tool is, the longer it generally takes to learn
> > how to use it fluently.
> 
> not if it's designed well. 

A powerful tool designed well is harder to learn how to use than a
more limited tool designed well.

If you don't see that, then I don't know how to convince you.

> powerful does not mean complicated.

Correct.  But as a rule tool that can do many different things is
going to be harder to understand and use than a tool that can just do
one thing.

> in fact, it's the opposite. easy to use is when something is powerful
> because it empowers more people to be able to do more things, rather
> than throw up their hands and give up in frustration.

The unix shell has empowered me to do a _lot_ of things.  Tim threw up
his hands in frustration because he didn't actually need it - he had
other tools that were better suited.  That's a good thing.

I _could_ use the unix shell to make .xml files.  I use perl instead
because it is better suited to that.   This isn't a knock on the power
of the unix shell.
w

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Question about wildcards in Unix JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-19 17:19 -0500
  Re: Question about wildcards in Unix Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-01-19 14:42 -0800
  Re: Question about wildcards in Unix Joanna Shuttleworth <js@example.com> - 2014-01-19 22:46 +0000
    Re: Question about wildcards in Unix JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-19 18:16 -0500
      Re: Question about wildcards in Unix dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-01-20 12:43 +1300
        Re: Question about wildcards in Unix nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-19 19:02 -0500
          Re: Question about wildcards in Unix dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-01-20 17:41 +1300
        Re: Question about wildcards in Unix JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-19 19:55 -0500
          Re: Question about wildcards in Unix Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-20 03:00 +0000
          Re: Question about wildcards in Unix mcarels@xs4all.nl (Maarten Carels) - 2014-01-20 10:05 +0100
            Re: Question about wildcards in Unix Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-20 09:49 +0000
              Re: Question about wildcards in Unix Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 12:57 -0800
                Re: Question about wildcards in Unix JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-20 16:15 -0500
                Re: Question about wildcards in Unix Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 14:10 -0800
                Re: Question about wildcards in Unix Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-20 23:06 +0000
                Re: Question about wildcards in Unix Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:39 -0800
                Re: Question about wildcards in Unix nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 18:44 -0500
                Re: Question about wildcards in Unix Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:42 -0800
                Re: Question about wildcards in Unix Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-21 10:23 +0000
            Re: Question about wildcards in Unix Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-20 18:43 +0000
      Re: Question about wildcards in Unix Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 12:55 -0800

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