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Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14]

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On 27 Jun 2020 at 22:57:48 BST, Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

> Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> writes:
> 
>> On 2020-06-22 5:20 p.m., JF Mezei wrote:
>>> On 2020-06-22 20:03, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2020-06-22 4:43 p.m., JF Mezei wrote:
>>>>> On 2020-06-22 16:29, nospam wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> it's much more than 'arm-based chips'.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From the compiler's point of view, the code that runs on the CPU is ARM.
>>>> 
>>>> Which doesn't make chips designed by Apple any less "Apple silicon" than
>>>> running Intel's instruction set makes AMD's chips.
>>> 
>>> I never implied such. 
>> 
>> Actually... ...you kind of did.
>> 
>>> The fact remains that Apple has implemneted the
>>> ARM architecture and as such, the code that runs in the CPU runs the ARM
>>> instruction set, as generated by the compiler.  This does not diminiosh
>>> the huge performance boosts that Apple has been able to get from its own
>>> implememntations year after year.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> And you're going to have that, but P.A.Semi which Apple acquired to make
>>> the Axx chips and all the huge performance boosts came from Digital. The
>>> head of P.A.Semi was one of the lead desigtners for both StromgARM and
>>> Alpha projects at Digital.
>> 
>> People change jobs all the time.
>> 
>> The chief designer of Windows NT was the the former designer of VMS
>> 
> 
> Cutler was "a" designer of VMS, but not "the" designer of it, former or
> otherwise. He did evidently lead the team creating NT, although the
> Microsofties kind of took the silk purse he had worked on and made a
> sow's ear out of it.

Yes. He designed the file system properly and they grafted the 1970's drive
letter bollocks onto it.

-- 
Tim

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Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC  [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-09 14:28 +0000
  Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-09 11:27 -0700
    Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-09 16:58 -0400
      Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-22 02:38 +0000
        OT: Why must Arlen lie? (was Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-22 01:10 -0700
        Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-22 19:50 +0000
          Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-06-22 16:29 -0400
            Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-22 19:43 -0400
              Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-06-22 20:02 -0400
                Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-06-24 09:59 -0400
                Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-06-24 10:24 -0400
                Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-06-24 10:43 -0400
                Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-24 16:17 -0400
                Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-06-24 16:19 -0400
              Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-22 17:03 -0700
                Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-06-22 20:20 -0400
                Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-22 17:52 -0700
                Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2020-06-27 17:57 -0400
                Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-06-28 10:29 +1200
                Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-27 19:31 -0700
                Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Tim <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2020-06-28 12:29 +0000
                Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-06-24 10:02 -0400
              Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-23 04:51 +0000
              Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-06-24 10:04 -0400
            Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-23 05:01 +0000
          Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-22 14:03 -0700
            Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-06-23 09:47 +1200
              Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-22 15:33 -0700
              Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-23 16:02 +0000
                Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] David Sankey <David.Sankey@stfc.ac.uk> - 2020-06-23 18:28 +0100
                Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-06-24 10:50 -0400
                Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-24 15:22 +0000
                Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] David Sankey <David.Sankey@stfc.ac.uk> - 2020-06-24 17:36 +0100
                Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-06-23 14:48 -0700
  Re: Apple Plans to Announce Move to Its Own Mac Chips at WWDC  [ARM, TSMC, 5nm, A14] Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-06-26 02:27 +0000

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