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Re: Beach Ball Blues Again

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Beach Ball Blues Again
Date 2018-06-07 01:03 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2018-06-06, Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> wrote:
>
> I has a friend struggle with 10.12 on his bulked out development iMac. He'd 
> have Xcode and a bunch of stuff open, trying to develop and debug his iphone 
> app and he'd get all sorts of weird problems. Rebooting helped until the 
> problem happened again.
>
> I'm running 10.10 and I can go a week on my 32GB MacPro before it starts 
> creating VM files. It was worse when I only had 14GB. The Kernel task just 
> keeps growing and growing until you reboot. I dumped 10.11 because it was 
> much worse.

I do software development and more on multiple Macs running different
versions of macOS that go weeks or months between restarts, where the
main reason for the restarts is often system updates. The most
problematic out of all of them is the one running El Capitan (can't
upgrade past that without significant hacks, unfortunately). The ones
running High Sierra are quite stable and issue-free in general. 

> My linux servers can stay up for months without issue, busily humming
> away doing chip design stuff. My mac needs to be rebooted regularly to
> clear out cruft. 

That's no surprise. Linux is primarily geared for serving (as opposed to
desktop) where special attention has been paid to resource management
and throughput. macOS is a desktop OS first, where restarting
occasionally isn't as big of a deal. Apple should still strive for
efficiency and robustness; but you should compare apples to apples. How
does macOS stack up compared with another desktop OS like Windows, for
instance, in terms of memory management, stability, and so on? I'd say
it stacks up pretty fucking well in general.

> I guess Apple does not test for this.

They do. macOS is much more of a moving target though, with desktop
workstation rather than high end server priorities.

-- 
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JR

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Beach Ball Blues Again csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2018-06-04 09:06 -0700
  Re: Beach Ball Blues Again nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-04 12:11 -0400
  Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 10:41 -0700
    Re: Beach Ball Blues Again csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2018-06-06 10:22 -0700
      Re: Beach Ball Blues Again dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-07 13:49 +1200
        Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-06-07 07:05 -0700
          Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:00 -0700
  Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-04 18:20 +0000
  Re: Beach Ball Blues Again gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 14:40 -0700
    Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 14:50 -0700
  Re: Beach Ball Blues Again "Tyrone F. Horneigh" <Nunya@Business.net> - 2018-06-04 19:26 -0400
    Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 00:22 -0700
  Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2018-06-04 19:04 -0700
  Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:02 +0000
  Re: Beach Ball Blues Again csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2018-06-06 10:18 -0700
    Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> - 2018-06-06 11:33 -0700
      Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-07 09:20 +1200
        Re: Beach Ball Blues Again nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 17:40 -0400
      Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-07 01:03 +0000
        Re: Beach Ball Blues Again nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2018-06-07 05:28 -0600
          Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-07 16:36 +0000
        Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-17 17:38 +0000
    Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-07 00:53 +0000
      Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 08:56 -0700

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