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On 2015-03-05, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 09:06:18 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote
> (in article <clr66qF75tsU5@mid.individual.net>):
>
>> Which model(s) are the reviews about, specifically?
>
> Same as yours, I believe.
>
>   http://www.amazon.com/Drobo-Beyond-FireWire-Storage-Backup/dp/B004CRIL
> FI

Ok. I just took a look. So out of 79 reviews, 52 were in the top 4-5
stars ratings. That's not bad. Of the 19 1-star reviews, most seem to be
about problems due to things like buggy Windows 7 USB3 and eSATA
drivers, bugs in Windows Backup & Restore software, power outages during
operation without a UPS (duh!), and so on - most of which do not apply
to Mac users. 

And if you use a Drobo, you should definitely connect it to an
uninterruptible power supply. Removing power from any drive while using
it is bound to cause a problem - that should be common sense.  

>> Oh, so "Nobro" must mean "some standard "dumb" RAID array", right? It
>> would help if you'd just say what you are using, you know. ; )
>
> OK.  I just have pairs of external desktop drives attached to the 
> Mac-Mini.  I originally tried Soft RAID but it endlessly reported the 
> drives were out of sync and spent days re-synching them.i

That's exactly the type of thing you'll have to deal with when you use
traditional "dumb" RAID solutions. They are typically bare-bones designs
that force you to do your own recovery and learn all the technical
details when things go wrong. No thanks! I've done that before, and
Drobo has spoiled me, I readily admit. : )

> Now I just use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up one to the other every
> week or so.  99.99% of the data never changes anyway.  Any data that
> is both critical and frequently changing I back up with Time Machine.
> Not as elegant as a full RAID solution but elegance comes at a price
> and you reach the point of diminishing returns quickly.

Personally, I don't see the diminished returns. I've had this Drobo S
going on five years now without issue. It's saved me tons of headaches
through 5 or 6 hard drive failures without losing access to any of my
data for a single day during all that time. The Drobo 2nd generation I
had before it was similar.

>> While there are a few products out there that compete with the Drobo,
>> the vast majority of RAID arrays aren't even in the same ball park.
>
> I can believe that.  However the tickets to the game are a little too 
> expensive for my budget :)

The higher cost of entry for the Drobo isn't for everyone; but you get
what you pay for. If simpler, cheaper solutions work well enough,
there's no reason not to use them! You should definitely use what works
best for you.

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JR

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NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-01 15:48 -0500
  Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-01 21:07 +0000
    Re: NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-02 01:13 -0500
      Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-02 16:12 +0000
        Re: NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-02 12:47 -0500
          Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-02 18:06 +0000
            Re: NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-02 13:47 -0500
              Re: NAS suggestions Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-02 14:03 -0500
        Re: NAS suggestions Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-03-05 06:34 -0500
          Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 12:54 +0000
            Re: NAS suggestions Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-03-05 07:59 -0500
              Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 13:22 +0000
                Re: NAS suggestions Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-03-05 08:33 -0500
                Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 14:38 +0000
            Re: NAS suggestions Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-05 19:00 +0000
        Re: NAS suggestions Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-03-05 07:57 -0500
          Re: NAS suggestions Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-05 09:01 -0500
            Re: NAS suggestions Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-03-05 11:58 -0500
              Re: NAS suggestions Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-05 12:18 -0500
              Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 17:48 +0000
          Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 14:06 +0000
            Re: NAS suggestions Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-03-05 11:55 -0500
              Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 17:46 +0000
      Re: NAS suggestions Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-02 11:35 -0500
        Re: NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-02 12:50 -0500
        Re: NAS suggestions JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-02 14:11 -0500
          Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-02 19:13 +0000
            Re: NAS suggestions JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-02 14:49 -0500
              Re: NAS suggestions Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-03 09:31 +1300
                Re: NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-02 15:58 -0500
                Re: NAS suggestions Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-02 17:32 -0500
                Re: NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-03 07:18 -0500
                Re: NAS suggestions Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-03 12:23 -0500
                Re: NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-03 14:30 -0500
                Re: NAS suggestions Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-04 09:07 +1300
                Re: NAS suggestions Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-03 15:05 -0500
                Re: NAS suggestions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-02 18:05 -0500
                Re: NAS suggestions Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-03 13:07 +1300
              Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-03 00:55 +0000
          Re: NAS suggestions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-02 14:14 -0500
          Re: NAS suggestions Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-02 14:43 -0500
          Re: NAS suggestions Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-03 08:56 +1300
          Re: NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-02 15:56 -0500

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