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Re: Snow Leopard retires..

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Snow Leopard retires..
Date 2014-03-03 04:29 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID <bnieokFc8ppU3@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (10 earlier) <slrnlh5okj.h2.g.kreme@amelia.local> <1lhwg3m.1ay4tir1qyxddmN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> <slrnlh6sc4.1uj.g.kreme@amelia.local> <5313d708$0$32622$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com> <slrnlh7tbf.8ik.g.kreme@amelia.local>

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On 2014-03-03, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <5313d708$0$32622$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com> 
>   JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> On 14-03-02 12:59, Lewis wrote:
>
>>> That's true, you can't upgrade it, but you can install it. There is no
>>> "disk zapping" involved though, you just have to install it as a new
>>> install, everything previously on the disk remains exactly where it was.
>
>> I doubt any unix utilities you added in the /usr/bin or other similar
>> unix directories survive.
>
> I don't install into /usr/bin, but usr/local/bin has survived on my
> machines since 10.5.

Yep.

It definitely wouldn't be a good idea to install things in /usr/bin or
/usr/sbin and expect them not to change when you install system updates.

I have never had anything in /usr/local get modified by system updates.

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Snow Leopard retires.. Stephen <gratefuldead@xs4all.nl> - 2014-02-27 16:53 +0100
  Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Stephen <gratefuldead@xs4all.nl> - 2014-02-27 17:00 +0100
    Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Another John <lalaw44@hotmail.com> - 2014-02-27 18:27 +0000
      Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Stephen <gratefuldead@xs4all.nl> - 2014-02-27 19:50 +0100
    Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-27 17:13 -0500
    Re: Snow Leopard retires.. gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-02-28 14:08 -0800
  Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-02-27 11:39 -0500
    Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Stephen <gratefuldead@xs4all.nl> - 2014-02-27 18:41 +0100
      Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-27 18:35 +0000
      Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2014-02-27 23:26 +0000
    Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-27 18:34 +0000
    Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-27 13:03 -0600
      Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-27 21:22 +0000
      Re: Snow Leopard retires.. David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2014-03-03 17:53 +0000
        Re: Snow Leopard retires.. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-03-04 15:37 -0600
          Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-04 22:20 +0000
            Re: Snow Leopard retires.. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-03-05 12:51 -0600
              Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-05 22:33 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-05 17:50 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-05 23:59 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-06 07:40 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-03-06 18:49 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-03-06 17:06 -0600
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-07 02:54 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com> - 2014-03-07 11:41 -0600
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-03-06 17:03 -0600
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-03-05 16:54 -0600
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-06 01:20 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-03-06 17:01 -0600
        Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-07 16:35 -0500
          Re: Snow Leopard retires.. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-03-08 14:25 -0600
    Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2014-02-27 23:26 +0000
    Re: Snow Leopard retires.. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-02-28 19:53 -0600
      Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-28 17:58 -0800
  Re: Snow Leopard retires.. John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-02-27 20:50 +0000
    Re: Snow Leopard retires.. me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-02-27 21:44 +0000
      Re: Snow Leopard retires.. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-27 18:36 -0500
        Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-28 00:49 +0000
          Re: Snow Leopard retires.. bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-02-27 20:45 -0800
            Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-28 10:43 +0000
              Re: Snow Leopard retires.. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-02-28 19:52 -0600
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-01 06:41 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-01 15:29 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-01 11:42 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-01 18:09 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-02 11:38 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-02 17:28 +1300
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-02 11:40 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-02 12:23 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com> - 2014-03-02 18:17 -0600
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-02 19:28 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-03 18:39 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-03 13:25 +1300
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-03 00:47 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-02 20:29 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-03 03:11 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-03 16:52 +1300
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-03 04:06 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-04 12:02 +1300
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-03 18:38 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-04 12:55 +1300
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-03 19:51 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-04 01:32 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-03-05 12:33 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-05 18:11 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-04 00:18 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-03-04 06:43 -0800
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-04 17:04 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-04 17:59 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-05 12:49 +1300
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Kit <kitzyme@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-04 14:55 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-04 17:05 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-05 12:49 +1300
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dob@trwxxa-2.local (David Blanchard) - 2014-03-09 18:16 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-09 21:56 -0400
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dob@trwxxa-2.local (David Blanchard) - 2014-03-10 16:45 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-01 18:08 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-02 17:28 +1300
              Re: Snow Leopard retires.. David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-03-01 12:50 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-01 18:21 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-03-02 12:16 -0500
            Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-02-28 11:02 -0500
              Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2014-02-28 17:25 +0100
              Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-28 18:38 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-02-28 20:47 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-02-28 18:37 -0800
              Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Ronnie Bateman <OurOwnRonnieBateman@earthlinc.net> - 2014-02-28 13:09 -0800
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-28 21:57 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-02-28 19:52 -0600
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-03-01 08:08 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-02-28 20:49 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-02-28 19:50 -0600
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-03-01 13:29 +1100
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-03-01 12:48 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-02-28 21:23 -0800
            Re: Snow Leopard retires.. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-02-28 19:50 -0600
              Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-01 06:40 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-01 09:31 -0500
            Re: Snow Leopard retires.. RonTheGuy@null.invalid (Ron) - 2014-03-01 19:24 -0800
              Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-03-01 19:44 -0800
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-01 23:38 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-02 17:51 +1300
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-03-02 11:25 -0800
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 05:21 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-02 01:59 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-02 02:39 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 07:49 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-02 21:34 +1300
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 17:59 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-03 13:25 +1300
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-03 03:14 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-03 17:05 +1300
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-02 20:12 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-03 03:22 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-03 04:29 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-02 20:02 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-03 03:17 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-03 03:47 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-02 23:02 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-03 05:12 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-03 00:39 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2014-03-03 07:27 +0100
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-03 01:29 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2014-03-04 06:51 +0100
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-03 04:11 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-03 04:27 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-03 05:09 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-03 16:16 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-03 16:29 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-03 12:35 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-03 20:28 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2014-03-04 22:51 +0100
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-04 22:19 +0000
              Re: Snow Leopard retires.. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-01 23:38 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-02 01:56 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-02 02:39 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 07:50 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-03-02 08:05 -0700
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-03 13:25 +1300
              Re: Snow Leopard retires.. bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-03-01 21:13 -0800
              Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-02 05:20 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-03-02 10:07 -0600
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-02 16:28 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-03-03 09:13 -0600
          Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2014-02-28 17:23 +0100
          Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Ronnie Bateman <OurOwnRonnieBateman@earthlinc.net> - 2014-02-28 13:07 -0800
        Re: Snow Leopard retires.. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-02-28 19:49 -0600
          Re: Snow Leopard retires.. David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-03-01 12:30 -0500
    Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-02-28 12:04 +1300
      Re: Snow Leopard retires.. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-27 18:40 -0500
        Re: Snow Leopard retires.. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-02-28 19:48 -0600
    Re: Snow Leopard retires.. David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-03-01 12:22 -0500
      Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-02 11:54 -0500
      Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-03-02 11:59 -0500
  Re: Snow Leopard retires.. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-02-27 18:31 -0500
  Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-06 12:20 +0000
    Re: Snow Leopard retires.. bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-03-06 09:39 -0800
      Re: Snow Leopard retires.. bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-03-06 10:57 -0800
        Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-06 19:05 +0000
          Re: Snow Leopard retires.. bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2014-03-06 11:41 -0800
          Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-07 12:12 +1300
            Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-07 02:47 +0000
              Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-07 03:13 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-07 09:38 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-07 14:43 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-07 07:50 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-07 14:45 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-07 11:24 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-07 16:39 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-03-07 16:43 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-03-07 18:06 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-08 03:37 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-03-07 15:04 +0000
              Re: Snow Leopard retires.. dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-03-07 19:37 +1300
              Re: Snow Leopard retires.. me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-07 18:38 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-07 19:21 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-08 00:31 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-03-07 19:36 -0500
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-03-08 01:35 +0000
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-03-08 14:25 -0600
                Re: Snow Leopard retires.. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-08 20:38 +0000

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