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Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other

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On 2014-01-31, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> On 30 Jan 2014 02:53:46 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2014-01-29, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2014.01.29, 13:45 , David Downing wrote:
>>>> I realize this is a very basic question, but it concerns something I
>>>> never had to do before now. Obviously, since I'm here, I have a Mac.
>>>> I recently bought a secondhand PC so I could learn to use a piece of
>>>> software that does;t run on the Mac. I have a need to send files from
>>>> my Mac to the PC. So far, I've been doing via email -- emailing the
>>>> files to myself as attachments, then opening the emails on the PC and
>>>> downloading the attached files. But there's gotta be a better way
>>>> that involves actually connecting the two computers to each other and
>>>> sending the files directly. Ideally, I'd like one computer to show up
>>>> as an icon on the other computer's desktop, so that I could directly
>>>> move files back and forth. How is this done?
>>>
>>> See JR's reply.  I'd add that it's best for the computers to connect via 
>>> a router or smart switch though directly will work too.
>>>
>>> I'll also add that you would have been just as well (better likely) to 
>>> install Windows under a virtualizer (VMWare Fusion or Parallels) right 
>>> on you Mac:
>>>
>>> 1. One machine
>>> 2. Drag and drop from one OS to the other (files, copy/paste)
>>> 3. Less space
>>> 4. Less wiring
>>> 5. Less energy consumption
>>> 6. Add other OS' too (such as Linux) which might be of use once in
>>>     every 9 blue moons that fall on Thursdays.
>>
>>Yep! That's what I do. No need for cheap and crappy PC hardware. Less
>>expensive than purchasing a cheap PC as well. VMWare Fusion is only
>>$59.99, after all.
>
>  Then you need a valid Windows installation. Anything from 50 bucks to
> a good couple of hundred. 

$50 is all you need for that.

>  Far easier to load your Windows programs inside Crossover. And it's
> cheaper than 60 bux.

I've learned from experience that for many, many things, Crossover
simply isn't a viable solution. It's just not compatible with a whole
lot of stuff, and even when a program does run under it, often it's woth
reduced or buggy functionality.

>  A good WINE is even cheaper, but harder for a new guy to use.  

Good luck with that as well.

A virtual machine is the best bet.

>  And please do remember, connecting a WIntel box to a Mac isn't easy.

With a virtual machine it's a no-brainer to share files between Mac OS X
and Wwindows. Click a check box and you're done. Yep, it's that easy. No
futzing with Windows sharing settings at all.

> Windows *hates* to be networked. Not only that but it loses networks
> easily no matter how you set them up. If you're lucky it will re-find
> them but sometimes not.

Which is why a VM is a better way to go, IMO.
 
>  Sometimes, something as simple as dropping huge files onto a USB
> stick can kill the network connection. 
>  Networking, in Windows is strictly a last-minute hurried add-on that
> might possibly work when it feels like it. For a few minutes. Swapping
> large files between machines is a pain in the bum. 

I'm not sure what you've been doing, but I've used various versions of
Windows for many years and, while its certainly not as easy to configure
or as problem-free as Mac OS and *nix networking, I haven't had that
much trouble with it.

> Doing any serious work on a Mac from inside a Windows PC is ... not as
> easy as linking *Nixxy or Mac boxes.

I'm not sure what you mean by doing work on a Mac from inside a Windows
PC. 

>  Also, FAT32 sticks have a 4kilobyte file li.... bugger, of course I
> meant a 4 GIGAByte file limit. That's not big enough for a full
> double-sided DVD movie in AVI format. If you want to USB-stick
> anything bigger you'll need to "Convert" the FS to NTFS. Then you'll
> need to teach your Mac how to read and write NTFS. 

No need for it if you use a VM in Mac OS.

>  Window makes *nothing* easy. It does work, after a fashion, so long
> as you don't do anything weird but it's not friendly to people who
> want to do strange stuff. Like use it. 

Meh. Windows does suck big time compared with other operating systems;
but it's not all *that* hard to get it to do what you want.

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JR

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Getting two computers to talk to each other David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 10:45 -0800
  Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-29 18:50 +0000
  Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-30 08:58 +1300
    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:59 -0500
    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 18:49 -0500
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-30 13:24 +1300
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 20:57 -0500
          Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-30 09:58 +0000
            Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 13:13 +0000
              Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 15:01 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 21:06 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Wilbur Eleven <wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> - 2014-01-30 16:57 -0500
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-30 17:05 -0500
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-01-30 14:12 -0800
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 22:02 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Wilbur Eleven <wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> - 2014-01-30 17:51 -0500
              Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 12:02 -0500
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-01 17:08 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-01 23:03 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-02 00:57 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com> - 2014-02-01 21:23 -0600
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-02 04:54 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-02 09:29 -0500
            Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-31 08:58 +1300
              Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-30 21:13 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-30 13:53 -0800
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-30 22:09 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-30 22:40 -0800
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-31 12:41 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-31 13:39 +1300
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-31 08:27 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-01 09:45 +1300
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-31 22:33 +0000
              Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-10 01:15 +0100
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-30 13:24 +1300
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 02:49 +0000
          Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-10 01:22 +0100
            Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-10 00:55 +0000
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 12:02 -0500
    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-01-30 02:45 +0100
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 12:30 -0500
  Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 18:18 -0500
  Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 18:54 -0500
    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 02:53 +0000
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Gary <gary_w1@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-30 03:44 -0500
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-30 10:00 +0000
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 14:59 +0000
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-31 09:02 +1300
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 12:32 -0500
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-30 12:26 -0800
          Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-10 01:30 +0100
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-01-31 00:49 +0000
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-31 03:55 +0000
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-31 18:25 +1300
  Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2014-01-30 20:02 -0600
    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-31 18:27 +1300

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