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Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other

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In article <atrle994iijjg3fc7e84a5b26klvinm6ca@4ax.com>, John
<Man@the.keyboard> wrote:

> On 30 Jan 2014 02:53:46 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> >On 2014-01-29, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >> On 2014.01.29, 13:45 , David Downing wrote:
> >>> I realize this is a very basic question, but it concerns something I
> >>> never had to do before now. Obviously, since I'm here, I have a Mac.
> >>> I recently bought a secondhand PC so I could learn to use a piece of
> >>> software that does;t run on the Mac. I have a need to send files from
> >>> my Mac to the PC. So far, I've been doing via email -- emailing the
> >>> files to myself as attachments, then opening the emails on the PC and
> >>> downloading the attached files. But there's gotta be a better way
> >>> that involves actually connecting the two computers to each other and
> >>> sending the files directly. Ideally, I'd like one computer to show up
> >>> as an icon on the other computer's desktop, so that I could directly
> >>> move files back and forth. How is this done?
> >>
> >> See JR's reply.  I'd add that it's best for the computers to connect via 
> >> a router or smart switch though directly will work too.
> >>
> >> I'll also add that you would have been just as well (better likely) to 
> >> install Windows under a virtualizer (VMWare Fusion or Parallels) right 
> >> on you Mac:
> >>
> >> 1. One machine
> >> 2. Drag and drop from one OS to the other (files, copy/paste)
> >> 3. Less space
> >> 4. Less wiring
> >> 5. Less energy consumption
> >> 6. Add other OS' too (such as Linux) which might be of use once in
> >>     every 9 blue moons that fall on Thursdays.
> >
> >Yep! That's what I do. No need for cheap and crappy PC hardware. Less
> >expensive than purchasing a cheap PC as well. VMWare Fusion is only
> >$59.99, after all.
> 
>  Then you need a valid Windows installation. Anything from 50 bucks to
> a good couple of hundred. 
>  Far easier to load your Windows programs inside Crossover. And it's
> cheaper than 60 bux.
>  A good WINE is even cheaper, but harder for a new guy to use.  

I've tried WINE and Crossover before, and they were useless. Even the
supposedly "compatible" applciations didn't work properly. In one case
someone had to use an Access database (for funding reporting purposes),
and while the database itself was usable for entering and finding data,
the rpoerts simply didn't work - they had to use a USB flash drive with
the database on it in a real, and ancient and slow, Windows PC instead
to get the reports out of it.

Crossover may be better now, but I still wouldn't bother with it. The
only way to be properly compatible with Windows is tho actually have
Windows installed in some way.




>  And please do remember, connecting a WIntel box to a Mac isn't easy.
> Windows *hates* to be networked. Not only that but it loses networks
> easily no matter how you set them up. If you're lucky it will re-find
> them but sometimes not. 
>  Sometimes, something as simple as dropping huge files onto a USB
> stick can kill the network connection. 

Just breathing while using Winodze or looking at the computer in
passing can crash the it, let alone the network connection.  ;-)



>  Networking, in Windows is strictly a last-minute hurried add-on that
> might possibly work when it feels like it. For a few minutes. Swapping
> large files between machines is a pain in the bum. Doing any serious
> work on a Mac from inside a Windows PC is ... not as easy as linking
> *Nixxy or Mac boxes.
>  Also, FAT32 sticks have a 4kilobyte file li.... bugger, of course I
> meant a 4 GIGAByte file limit. That's not big enough for a full
> double-sided DVD movie in AVI format. If you want to USB-stick
> anything bigger you'll need to "Convert" the FS to NTFS. Then you'll
> need to teach your Mac how to read and write NTFS. 
>  Window makes *nothing* easy. It does work, after a fashion, so long
> as you don't do anything weird but it's not friendly to people who
> want to do strange stuff. Like use it. 

Paragon (probably other options too) makes drivers that let you read
from and write to NTFS drives which would get arounfd that filesize
limitation: http://paragon-drivers.com/ntfs-mac

My latest issue of the UK MacFormat magazine I've just picked up from
the shop has an offer to get 25% off the price, but unfortunately due
to the months it takes for the magazine to arrive get down here in New
Zealand, the offer ended on 6 January.  :-(

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Getting two computers to talk to each other David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 10:45 -0800
  Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-29 18:50 +0000
  Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-30 08:58 +1300
    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:59 -0500
    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 18:49 -0500
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-30 13:24 +1300
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 20:57 -0500
          Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-30 09:58 +0000
            Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 13:13 +0000
              Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 15:01 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 21:06 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Wilbur Eleven <wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> - 2014-01-30 16:57 -0500
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-30 17:05 -0500
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-01-30 14:12 -0800
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 22:02 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Wilbur Eleven <wil@nowhere.at.all.ru.ca.fr.uk.us> - 2014-01-30 17:51 -0500
              Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 12:02 -0500
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-01 17:08 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-01 23:03 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-02 00:57 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Ted Lee <tmplee@gmail.com> - 2014-02-01 21:23 -0600
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-02 04:54 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-02 09:29 -0500
            Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-31 08:58 +1300
              Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-30 21:13 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-30 13:53 -0800
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-30 22:09 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-30 22:40 -0800
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-31 12:41 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-31 13:39 +1300
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-31 08:27 +0000
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-02-01 09:45 +1300
                Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-31 22:33 +0000
              Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-10 01:15 +0100
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-30 13:24 +1300
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 02:49 +0000
          Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-10 01:22 +0100
            Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-10 00:55 +0000
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-01 12:02 -0500
    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-01-30 02:45 +0100
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 12:30 -0500
  Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 18:18 -0500
  Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-29 18:54 -0500
    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 02:53 +0000
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Gary <gary_w1@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-30 03:44 -0500
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-30 10:00 +0000
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 14:59 +0000
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-31 09:02 +1300
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 12:32 -0500
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-30 12:26 -0800
          Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-10 01:30 +0100
      Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-01-31 00:49 +0000
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-31 03:55 +0000
        Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-31 18:25 +1300
  Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2014-01-30 20:02 -0600
    Re: Getting two computers to talk to each other Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-31 18:27 +1300

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