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Re: Multiple Mavericks... a pity

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In article <l4hmsv$3m2$1@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau
<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:
> On 10-26-2013, 17:00, Your Name wrote:
> > 
> > There's still huge amounts of energy expended storing and transfering
> 
> I wonder how many are actually stored in order to make them available 
> for download?  Maybe two dozen master/backup copies?   The domain name 
> system manages to survive with a mere thirteen root name-servers.
> 
> Can you explain to us how copying and storing two dozen large files 
> takes more energy than manufacturing and storing millions of DVDs or 
> flash drives?
> 
> Can you explain to us how downloading millions of files takes more 
> energy than delivering millions of DVDs or flash drives?

I didn't say it took more energy, I said it still takes a lot of
energy. It's definitely not the all encompassing solution to pollution,
etc. that greenies like to blinker themesleves into believing (just
like electric cars).

Maybe it does take more to keep the computers, servers (all the servers
along the chain), telecoms equipment, etc. running 24-7, rather than a
limited production run of CDs or whatever. It's unlikely that anyone
has ever tested it properly.




> > it. Not to mention the time you waste having to wait for it to download
> 
> Right.  I have no life apart from your computer, and I have to suspend 
> even that when something is downloading. 

Doing anything on your computer, especially anything Internet / network
related, WILL slow down the download, even if not really noticeably to
you. In some cases it can even cause the download to be aborted so you
have to start all over again ... and that's assuming your connection
doesn't fail for some reason (power cut, Internet "goes down", etc.).

Whether you use the computer or not, you still have to wait for the
download to finish.




> And since that is not acceptable, I will instead order a DVD or flash 
> drive and wait two weeks for delivery.
> 
> You have DEFINITELY lost me on this one.

Go to a shop, buy a box, come home ... it's not exactly rocket science.
Unless you live in a rural location or have a fast, efficient, non-data
capped Internet connection, it's almost certainly a lot quicker (even
ignoring clogged servers because every idiot is trying to download it
the minute after release) and cheaper in some cases .

In many (yes, not "all") past cases, companies have had the product in
the stores ready for the release announcement and when advertising
campaigns start.

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Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Maurizio Loreti <mlo@foobar.it> - 2013-10-24 10:25 +0200
  Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-24 04:33 -0400
  Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity rcp27g@gmail.com - 2013-10-24 01:46 -0700
    Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Maurizio Loreti <mlo@foobar.it> - 2013-10-24 11:30 +0200
    Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-10-25 00:04 +1300
    Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2013-10-25 10:30 -0500
  Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-10-24 13:30 -0400
    Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2013-10-25 13:50 -0400
      Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-25 14:49 -0400
      Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-10-25 15:35 -0400
      Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity bob <rcp27g@gmail.com> - 2013-10-25 21:49 +0200
      Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-25 16:56 -0400
  Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-24 17:04 -0400
    Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-24 18:26 -0400
      Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-24 22:25 -0400
        Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-24 23:09 -0400
          Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-25 16:15 +1300
            Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-25 16:38 -0400
          Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2013-10-25 18:20 -0700
            Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-25 21:37 -0400
        Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity rcp27g@gmail.com - 2013-10-25 03:02 -0700
          Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-25 16:40 -0400
            Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-25 20:16 -0400
              Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-25 20:55 -0400
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-26 14:13 +1300
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-25 21:37 -0400
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-26 10:10 -0400
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-25 21:31 -0400
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-25 21:37 -0400
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-26 15:11 +1300
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity bob <rcp27g@gmail.com> - 2013-10-26 12:16 +0200
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-26 14:19 +0000
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-26 10:20 -0400
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity rcp27g@gmail.com - 2013-11-04 08:04 -0800
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-26 10:18 -0400
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-26 10:42 -0400
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-26 11:05 -0400
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-27 10:00 +1300
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-26 20:09 -0400
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-26 20:31 -0400
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-27 14:05 +1300
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-26 10:12 -0400
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-25 21:37 -0400
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-26 10:16 -0400
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity bob <rcp27g@gmail.com> - 2013-10-26 23:44 +0200
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-26 20:19 -0400
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-26 20:21 -0400
                Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-26 20:37 -0400
            Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-26 02:36 -0400
              Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-26 10:19 -0400
            Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-26 14:17 +0000
              Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-26 10:29 -0400
  Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-01 16:14 +0100
    Re: Multiple Mavericks...  a pity Ned Mantei <ned.mantei@biol.ethz.ch> - 2013-11-01 19:22 +0100

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