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  Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2013-10-28 18:53 -0500
    Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-28 20:03 -0400
    Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 13:39 +1300
      Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-10-28 18:05 -0700
    Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2013-10-28 21:02 -0700
      Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 01:33 -0400
        Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2013-10-28 23:28 -0700
          Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 04:07 -0400
        Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-10-29 20:41 +1100
        Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-29 12:16 -0400
          Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 14:00 -0400
            Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-29 14:02 -0400
              Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 15:04 -0400
      Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? billy@MIX.COM - 2013-10-29 14:30 +0000

#405 — Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds?

Hello.

How well do MacBook Pros handle on bumpy roads inside luggages when 
pulled? I have a client who travels a lot and his home has bumpy floors.

Thank you in advance. :)
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#406

In article <j6idnUQ3veFmZfPPnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:

> How well do MacBook Pros handle on bumpy roads inside luggages when 
> pulled? I have a client who travels a lot and his home has bumpy floors.

non-issue, especially if it's surrounded by clothes and stuff to
cushion the bumps.

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#407

In article <j6idnUQ3veFmZfPPnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> How well do MacBook Pros handle on bumpy roads inside luggages when 
> pulled? I have a client who travels a lot and his home has bumpy floors.
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)

In a padded slip-case or bag it should be fine, as long as they aren't
trying to win a 100m sprint race while pulling it behind them. The
MacBook Pro models with SSD storage will be even safer.

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#408

On 2013-10-29 00:39:41 +0000, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> said:

> In article <j6idnUQ3veFmZfPPnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>> How well do MacBook Pros handle on bumpy roads inside luggages when
>> pulled? I have a client who travels a lot and his home has bumpy floors.
>> 
>> Thank you in advance. :)
> 
> In a padded slip-case or bag it should be fine, as long as they aren't
> trying to win a 100m sprint race while pulling it behind them. The
> MacBook Pro models with SSD storage will be even safer.

Then some MBPs were built tough. This MPB 17'' of mine survived a drop 
from a protective cover onto my driveway. It looks ugly, but it 
functions as well as it always has.

< https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/IMG_0382Ew.jpg >

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#409

In article <j6idnUQ3veFmZfPPnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> How well do MacBook Pros handle on bumpy roads inside luggages when 
> pulled? I have a client who travels a lot and his home has bumpy floors.
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)

Bumps, shaking, and cary-on X-ray machines are all fine as long as the 
computer is off.  Sleeping isn't good enough because the computer may 
periodically wake up.

Do check the screws along the bottom.  Every MacBook Pro I've seen has a 
problem with some of them missing the thread lock compound.  If one 
comes loose, add "removable" thread lock and put it back in.

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#410

In article
<mcmurtrie-7E2278.21023028102013@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote:

> > How well do MacBook Pros handle on bumpy roads inside luggages when 
> > pulled? I have a client who travels a lot and his home has bumpy floors.
> > 
> > Thank you in advance. :)
> 
> Bumps, shaking, and cary-on X-ray machines are all fine as long as the 
> computer is off. 

doesn't matter. the hard drive is parked if it's off or sleeping, and
if it's ssd it isn't an issue at all.

> Sleeping isn't good enough because the computer may 
> periodically wake up.

it does not periodically wake up unless you have a habit of putting
macbooks in luggage without closing the lid, where something can hit
the keys and wake it.

but even if it did, it's still a non-issue since the hard drive has a
motion sensor for sudden acceleration.

> Do check the screws along the bottom.  Every MacBook Pro I've seen has a 
> problem with some of them missing the thread lock compound.  If one 
> comes loose, add "removable" thread lock and put it back in.

nonsense.

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#411

In article <291020130133341763%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article
> <mcmurtrie-7E2278.21023028102013@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
> Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote:
> 
> > > How well do MacBook Pros handle on bumpy roads inside luggages when 
> > > pulled? I have a client who travels a lot and his home has bumpy floors.
> > > 
> > > Thank you in advance. :)
> > 
> > Bumps, shaking, and cary-on X-ray machines are all fine as long as the 
> > computer is off. 
> 
> doesn't matter. the hard drive is parked if it's off or sleeping, and
> if it's ssd it isn't an issue at all.
> 
> > Sleeping isn't good enough because the computer may 
> > periodically wake up.
> 
> it does not periodically wake up unless you have a habit of putting
> macbooks in luggage without closing the lid, where something can hit
> the keys and wake it.

There are several things that can cause a momentary wakeup.  The "wake 
for Ethernet network access" does it.  Apps and system components can, 
and do, request momentary powerup to execute tasks.  The system can wake 
up to flush RAM to disk if it thinks the battery is low.  None of this 
turns on the screen or the lights but it does spin up the disk.  Hosting 
a WiFi access point powers off the display but keeps other components 
running.


> but even if it did, it's still a non-issue since the hard drive has a
> motion sensor for sudden acceleration.
> 
> > Do check the screws along the bottom.  Every MacBook Pro I've seen has a 
> > problem with some of them missing the thread lock compound.  If one 
> > comes loose, add "removable" thread lock and put it back in.
> 
> nonsense.

Do tell me about the MacBook Pros that I've seen, since you seem to know 
about all of them.

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#412

In article
<mcmurtrie-66545E.23284028102013@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote:

> > > Sleeping isn't good enough because the computer may 
> > > periodically wake up.
> > 
> > it does not periodically wake up unless you have a habit of putting
> > macbooks in luggage without closing the lid, where something can hit
> > the keys and wake it.
> 
> There are several things that can cause a momentary wakeup.  The "wake 
> for Ethernet network access" does it. 

how exactly is a laptop inside a suitcase going to receive a wake on
lan packet over ethernet?? 

is this suitcase tethered to a really, really long ethernet cable?

> Apps and system components can, 
> and do, request momentary powerup to execute tasks.

rarely, but then it goes back to sleep. the hard drive doesn't spin up
either (if there even is one). 

> The system can wake 
> up to flush RAM to disk if it thinks the battery is low.

safe sleep (which is the default) writes it out when you sleep it
because it doesn't know how long it will be sleeping.

> None of this 
> turns on the screen or the lights but it does spin up the disk. 

even if any of that were true, it would have to spin it up *exactly*
when you went over a bump. otherwise, it does not matter. if the
suitcase is sitting still, it's no different than if the laptop is on a
desk. 

> Hosting 
> a WiFi access point powers off the display but keeps other components 
> running.

why would someone have a laptop inside their suitcase be an active wifi
hotspot, and while rolling it from place to place??? 

what exactly will this wifi hotspot be connecting to anyway? the really
long ethernet cable from above??

these days, people use their phones for wifi hotspots, or they have a
dedicated hotspot device like a mifi. 

> > but even if it did, it's still a non-issue since the hard drive has a
> > motion sensor for sudden acceleration.
> > 
> > > Do check the screws along the bottom.  Every MacBook Pro I've seen has a 
> > > problem with some of them missing the thread lock compound.  If one 
> > > comes loose, add "removable" thread lock and put it back in.
> > 
> > nonsense.
> 
> Do tell me about the MacBook Pros that I've seen, since you seem to know 
> about all of them.

out of all the mac laptops i've owned and/or used, going back to the
early powerbook days, not a single one had an issue with screws popping
out. they had other issues, but that wasn't one of them. 

the only marginally screw related issue was the rubber feet that
covered the screws on ibooks came off, which is just cosmetic. the
screws under the feet were fine. 

and even if this were a problem, the chances of every single screw
coming out all at once *and* the laptop coming apart because of that is
for all intents, zero. apple uses a lot of screws, so if one somehow
did fall out, it's not a big deal. the rest are still fine.

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#413

In article <291020130133341763%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> it does not periodically wake up unless you have a habit of putting
> macbooks in luggage without closing the lid, where something can hit
> the keys and wake it.

Not that it matters in this thread that much but MBs can wake up for 
many other reasons, often unknown reasons. That has been my experience 
no matter what I set for prefs.

-- 
dorayme

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#415

On 10-29-2013, 01:33, nospam wrote:
> it does not periodically wake up unless you have a habit of putting
> macbooks in luggage without closing the lid, where something can hit
> the keys and wake it.

If I sleep my white Macbook first, it wakes up when I turn off
the bluetooth mouse.

-- 
Wes Groleau

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   very intelligent person could believe in them.
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#416

In article <l4on00$3kd$2@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau
<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:

> > it does not periodically wake up unless you have a habit of putting
> > macbooks in luggage without closing the lid, where something can hit
> > the keys and wake it.
> 
> If I sleep my white Macbook first, it wakes up when I turn off
> the bluetooth mouse.

and it will wake up if you plug in or remove a usb mouse or any other
usb device. 

neither will happen inside a suitcase.

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#417

On 10-29-2013, 14:00, nospam wrote:
> In article <l4on00$3kd$2@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau
> <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>
>>> it does not periodically wake up unless you have a habit of putting
>>> macbooks in luggage without closing the lid, where something can hit
>>> the keys and wake it.
>>
>> If I sleep my white Macbook first, it wakes up when I turn off
>> the bluetooth mouse.
>
> and it will wake up if you plug in or remove a usb mouse or any other
> usb device.
>
> neither will happen inside a suitcase.

If the bluetooth mouse is packed with it and not turned off, it is 
remotely possible that it could get turned off.  Not likely, but 
considering the way they throw things around, certainly possible.

-- 
Wes Groleau

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#418

In article <l4ot6s$8er$3@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau
<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:

> >> If I sleep my white Macbook first, it wakes up when I turn off
> >> the bluetooth mouse.
> >
> > and it will wake up if you plug in or remove a usb mouse or any other
> > usb device.
> >
> > neither will happen inside a suitcase.
> 
> If the bluetooth mouse is packed with it and not turned off, it is 
> remotely possible that it could get turned off.  Not likely, but 
> considering the way they throw things around, certainly possible.

possible, but rare, and easily avoided if you make sure everything is
off or sleeping before packing it.

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#414

Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote:

> Do check the screws along the bottom.  Every MacBook Pro I've seen has a 
> problem with some of them missing the thread lock compound.  If one 
> comes loose, add "removable" thread lock and put it back in.

Fingernail polish is the very best removable thread locking compound.
Products like Loctite are sometimes not as removable as they claim...

Billy Y..
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