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Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds?

From nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds?
Date 2013-10-29 04:07 -0400
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<mcmurtrie-66545E.23284028102013@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote:

> > > Sleeping isn't good enough because the computer may 
> > > periodically wake up.
> > 
> > it does not periodically wake up unless you have a habit of putting
> > macbooks in luggage without closing the lid, where something can hit
> > the keys and wake it.
> 
> There are several things that can cause a momentary wakeup.  The "wake 
> for Ethernet network access" does it. 

how exactly is a laptop inside a suitcase going to receive a wake on
lan packet over ethernet?? 

is this suitcase tethered to a really, really long ethernet cable?

> Apps and system components can, 
> and do, request momentary powerup to execute tasks.

rarely, but then it goes back to sleep. the hard drive doesn't spin up
either (if there even is one). 

> The system can wake 
> up to flush RAM to disk if it thinks the battery is low.

safe sleep (which is the default) writes it out when you sleep it
because it doesn't know how long it will be sleeping.

> None of this 
> turns on the screen or the lights but it does spin up the disk. 

even if any of that were true, it would have to spin it up *exactly*
when you went over a bump. otherwise, it does not matter. if the
suitcase is sitting still, it's no different than if the laptop is on a
desk. 

> Hosting 
> a WiFi access point powers off the display but keeps other components 
> running.

why would someone have a laptop inside their suitcase be an active wifi
hotspot, and while rolling it from place to place??? 

what exactly will this wifi hotspot be connecting to anyway? the really
long ethernet cable from above??

these days, people use their phones for wifi hotspots, or they have a
dedicated hotspot device like a mifi. 

> > but even if it did, it's still a non-issue since the hard drive has a
> > motion sensor for sudden acceleration.
> > 
> > > Do check the screws along the bottom.  Every MacBook Pro I've seen has a 
> > > problem with some of them missing the thread lock compound.  If one 
> > > comes loose, add "removable" thread lock and put it back in.
> > 
> > nonsense.
> 
> Do tell me about the MacBook Pros that I've seen, since you seem to know 
> about all of them.

out of all the mac laptops i've owned and/or used, going back to the
early powerbook days, not a single one had an issue with screws popping
out. they had other issues, but that wasn't one of them. 

the only marginally screw related issue was the rubber feet that
covered the screws on ibooks came off, which is just cosmetic. the
screws under the feet were fine. 

and even if this were a problem, the chances of every single screw
coming out all at once *and* the laptop coming apart because of that is
for all intents, zero. apple uses a lot of screws, so if one somehow
did fall out, it's not a big deal. the rest are still fine.

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Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2013-10-28 18:53 -0500
  Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-28 20:03 -0400
  Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 13:39 +1300
    Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-10-28 18:05 -0700
  Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2013-10-28 21:02 -0700
    Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 01:33 -0400
      Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2013-10-28 23:28 -0700
        Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 04:07 -0400
      Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-10-29 20:41 +1100
      Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-29 12:16 -0400
        Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 14:00 -0400
          Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-29 14:02 -0400
            Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 15:04 -0400
    Re: Pulling luggage with MacBook Pros on bumpy grounds? billy@MIX.COM - 2013-10-29 14:30 +0000

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