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| First post | 2014-01-10 09:13 +1300 |
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Macintosh 30th Anniversary Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-10 09:13 +1300
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-01-11 18:37 +0000
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-12 10:16 +1300
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-11 21:47 +0000
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-11 14:11 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-11 22:01 +0000
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-11 17:24 -0700
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Jim Jaeger <jimjaeger@example.com> - 2014-01-11 16:38 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-12 09:19 +0000
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-12 08:07 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-12 18:03 +0000
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-12 10:25 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-12 18:33 +0000
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-12 10:46 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-12 12:53 -0700
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-13 07:42 +1100
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-12 15:36 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-13 11:09 +1100
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-15 10:39 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-16 07:11 +1100
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-13 07:34 +1100
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-12 15:33 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-13 10:59 +1100
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-01-12 23:37 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-13 09:42 +0000
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-13 20:54 +1100
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-13 09:02 +1300
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-12 12:24 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-12 15:38 -0600
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-12 21:59 +0000
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-13 09:02 +1100
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-13 13:14 +1300
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-12 16:44 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-13 17:08 +1300
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-12 23:31 -0500
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-13 18:55 +1300
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-14 09:16 +1300
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-01-13 18:14 +0000
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-13 18:37 -0500
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-14 13:13 +1300
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-13 16:26 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-14 13:49 +1300
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-12 22:15 +0000
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-12 15:39 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-13 13:28 +1300
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-12 15:31 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-12 23:33 +0000
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-12 18:15 -0700
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-12 17:19 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-13 07:25 +1100
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-12 09:18 -0700
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-12 11:25 -0600
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-12 10:40 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-12 23:26 +0000
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-12 16:28 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-12 18:14 -0700
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-12 17:29 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-01-16 17:51 -0500
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-16 23:11 +0000
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2014-01-24 22:33 -0600
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-13 17:13 +1300
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-01-12 20:52 -0800
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-13 18:57 +1300
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-11 19:50 -0500
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-11 18:02 -0700
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-12 15:52 +1300
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-11 20:56 -0600
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-11 20:55 -0600
Re: Macintosh 30th Anniversary Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-12 17:49 +1300
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2014-01-10 09:13 +1300 |
| Subject | Macintosh 30th Anniversary |
| Message-ID | <100120140913352052%YourName@YourISP.com> |
30 years?! Geez, now I feel even older! :-)
This is from MacRumors.com ...
Macintosh 30th Anniversary Celebration Event
Planned for January 25
--------------------------------------------
The original Macintosh Development Team, along with
the Computer History Museum, is leading a special
event at the Flint Center in Cupertino, California
on January 25 to celebrate the thirtieth anniversary
of the introduction of the Macintosh. The Flint
Center is the since-renovated auditorium where Steve
Jobs first introduced the Mac.
"In a series of panel discussions, members
of the original team will share memories
about the conception, birth and coming of
age of the Apple Macintosh. Previously
unreleased video will recreate those
early days. And Ridley Scott will
participate regarding the iconic '1984'
commercial conceived by Steve Hayden,
Brent Thomas and Lee Clow. Stage events,
testimonials and surprise guests will
offer a treasure trove of recollections
about the era.
In some of the evening¹s highlights, Mike
Markkula will be part of a presentation
acknowledging the unsung heroes of the
computer revolution ‹ the original Mac
team. Currently there are 7 of the 10
single digit original Apple Employees
confirmed and over 17 double digit badge
numbers.
The team behind the event, led by Daniel Kottke, is
asking for images and anecdotes from early Macintosh
developers to feature at the show. More details can
be found on the 30th Anniversary Celebration website.
(http://macintosh30th.com/posters/)
Tickets are available via Ticketmaster starting at
US$109.75 each. All proceeds after expenses will be
donated to charity. (http://www.mac30th.com)
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| From | me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) |
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| Date | 2014-01-11 18:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <las31b$sho$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3329 |
In comp.sys.mac.system Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote: > > 30 years?! Geez, now I feel even older! :-) This will make you feel *really* old. Remember the original Star Wars movie? Its release date was closer in time to the attack on Pearl Harbor than to today. -- K. Lang may your lum reek.
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2014-01-12 10:16 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <120120141016463640%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #3330 |
In article <las31b$sho$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote: > In comp.sys.mac.system Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote: > > > > 30 years?! Geez, now I feel even older! :-) > > This will make you feel *really* old. Remember the original Star Wars > movie? Its release date was closer in time to the attack on Pearl Harbor > than to today. Plus, JJ Abrams likely-garbagised up-coming additions to the franchise will feel like an attack on Pearl Harbour. :-(
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-01-11 21:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnld3f0d.nfd.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #3330 |
In message <las31b$sho$1@dont-email.me> Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote: > In comp.sys.mac.system Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote: >> >> 30 years?! Geez, now I feel even older! :-) > This will make you feel *really* old. Remember the original Star Wars > movie? Its release date was closer in time to the attack on Pearl Harbor > than to today. I hate you. -- Always be sincere, even if you don't mean it.
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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
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| Date | 2014-01-11 14:11 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <2014011114110099904-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> |
| In reply to | #3332 |
On 2014-01-11 21:47:56 +0000, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> said: > In message <las31b$sho$1@dont-email.me> > Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote: >> In comp.sys.mac.system Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote: >>> >>> 30 years?! Geez, now I feel even older! :-) > >> This will make you feel *really* old. Remember the original Star Wars >> movie? Its release date was closer in time to the attack on Pearl Harbor >> than to today. > > I hate you. Let's see; December 7, 1941 to May 25, 1977 = 35 years 5 months 18 days. May 25, 1977 to January 10, 2014 = 36 years 7 months 15 days. -- Regards, Savageduck
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-01-11 22:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnld3fp1.nfd.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #3330 |
In message <las31b$sho$1@dont-email.me> Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote: > In comp.sys.mac.system Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote: >> >> 30 years?! Geez, now I feel even older! :-) > This will make you feel *really* old. Remember the original Star Wars > movie? Its release date was closer in time to the attack on Pearl Harbor > than to today. The reign of Cleopatra is closer to the moon landing than it is to the building of the Great Pyramid. -- 'Ah... I see that the new traffic division is having the desired effect.' He indicated a large pile of paper. 'I am getting any amount of complaints from the Carters' and Drovers' Guild. Well done. Do pass on my thanks to Sergeant Colon and his team.' 'I will, sir.' 'I see in one day they clamped seventeen carts, ten horses, eighteen oxen and one duck.' 'It was parked illegally, sir.'
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-01-11 17:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <110120141724415204%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #3330 |
In article <las31b$sho$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote: > This will make you feel *really* old. Remember the original Star Wars > movie? Its release date was closer in time to the attack on Pearl Harbor > than to today. My birthdate is closer to the attack on Pearl Harbor than it is to the release of Star Trek, let alone Star Wars.
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| From | Jim Jaeger <jimjaeger@example.com> |
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| Date | 2014-01-11 16:38 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <jimjaeger-1DF813.16385911012014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #3335 |
In article <las31b$sho$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> wrote: > This will make you feel *really* old. Remember the original Star Wars > movie? Its release date was closer in time to the attack on Pearl Harbor > than to today. My birthdate is closer to the Civil War than to today. You kids get off my lawn. jim
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2014-01-12 09:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <120120140919221781%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #3336 |
In article <jimjaeger-1DF813.16385911012014@news.eternal-september.org>, Jim Jaeger <jimjaeger@example.com> wrote: > In article <las31b$sho$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> > wrote: > > This will make you feel *really* old. Remember the original Star Wars > > movie? Its release date was closer in time to the attack on Pearl Harbor > > than to today. > > My birthdate is closer to the Civil War than to today. > > You kids get off my lawn. The Civil War was in the 1640s. Are you at least 180 years old? -- "The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place." - Douglas Adams
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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
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| Date | 2014-01-12 08:07 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <2014011208071963901-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> |
| In reply to | #3343 |
On 2014-01-12 09:19:22 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said: > In article > <jimjaeger-1DF813.16385911012014@news.eternal-september.org>, Jim > Jaeger <jimjaeger@example.com> wrote: > >> In article <las31b$sho$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca> >> wrote: >> > This will make you feel *really* old. Remember the original Star Wars >> > movie? Its release date was closer in time to the attack on Pearl >> Harbor > than to today. >> >> My birthdate is closer to the Civil War than to today. >> >> You kids get off my lawn. > > The Civil War was in the 1640s. Are you at least 180 years old? When us folks in North America talk of the Civil War we think in terms of 1861-65, The Union & The Confederacy, U.S. Grant & R. E. Lee, not Parliamentarians & Royalists, Cromwell & Charles I. So for a WWII veteran of say 90-95 years of age, his birthdate could well be some 30 years closer to the U.S. Civil War than today. -- Regards, Savageduck
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2014-01-12 18:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <120120141803469650%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #3344 |
In article <2014011208071963901-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2014-01-12 09:19:22 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>
> > In article
> > <jimjaeger-1DF813.16385911012014@news.eternal-september.org>, Jim
> > Jaeger <jimjaeger@example.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <las31b$sho$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >> > This will make you feel *really* old. Remember the original Star Wars
> >> > movie? Its release date was closer in time to the attack on Pearl
> >> Harbor > than to today.
> >>
> >> My birthdate is closer to the Civil War than to today.
> >>
> >> You kids get off my lawn.
> >
> > The Civil War was in the 1640s. Are you at least 180 years old?
>
> When us folks in North America talk of the Civil War we think in terms
> of 1861-65, The Union & The Confederacy, U.S. Grant & R. E. Lee, not
> Parliamentarians & Royalists, Cromwell & Charles I.
> So for a WWII veteran of say 90-95 years of age, his birthdate could
> well be some 30 years closer to the U.S. Civil War than today.
Us folks are not in North America.
--
Tim
"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689
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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
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| Date | 2014-01-12 10:25 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <2014011210252517719-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> |
| In reply to | #3347 |
On 2014-01-12 18:03:46 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
> In article <2014011208071963901-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-01-12 09:19:22 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>>
>> > In article
>> > <jimjaeger-1DF813.16385911012014@news.eternal-september.org>, Jim
>> > Jaeger <jimjaeger@example.com> wrote:
>> > >> In article <las31b$sho$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > This will make you feel *really* old. Remember the original Star
>> Wars >> > movie? Its release date was closer in time to the attack on
>> Pearl >> Harbor > than to today.
>> >> >> My birthdate is closer to the Civil War than to today.
>> >> >> You kids get off my lawn.
>> > > The Civil War was in the 1640s. Are you at least 180 years old?
>>
>> When us folks in North America talk of the Civil War we think in terms
>> of 1861-65, The Union & The Confederacy, U.S. Grant & R. E. Lee, not
>> Parliamentarians & Royalists, Cromwell & Charles I.
>> So for a WWII veteran of say 90-95 years of age, his birthdate could
>> well be some 30 years closer to the U.S. Civil War than today.
>
> Us folks are not in North America.
Yup!
We are a tad insular when we read "Civil War", thinking only of ours.
That seems to be a trait shared with the English who seem to know of no
other "Civil War", but theirs.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2014-01-12 18:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <120120141833024989%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #3348 |
In article <2014011210252517719-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2014-01-12 18:03:46 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>
> > In article <2014011208071963901-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2014-01-12 09:19:22 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
> >>
> >> > In article
> >> > <jimjaeger-1DF813.16385911012014@news.eternal-september.org>, Jim
> >> > Jaeger <jimjaeger@example.com> wrote:
> >> > >> In article <las31b$sho$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > This will make you feel *really* old. Remember the original Star
> >> Wars >> > movie? Its release date was closer in time to the attack on
> >> Pearl >> Harbor > than to today.
> >> >> >> My birthdate is closer to the Civil War than to today.
> >> >> >> You kids get off my lawn.
> >> > > The Civil War was in the 1640s. Are you at least 180 years old?
> >>
> >> When us folks in North America talk of the Civil War we think in terms
> >> of 1861-65, The Union & The Confederacy, U.S. Grant & R. E. Lee, not
> >> Parliamentarians & Royalists, Cromwell & Charles I.
> >> So for a WWII veteran of say 90-95 years of age, his birthdate could
> >> well be some 30 years closer to the U.S. Civil War than today.
> >
> > Us folks are not in North America.
>
> Yup!
> We are a tad insular when we read "Civil War", thinking only of ours.
> That seems to be a trait shared with the English who seem to know of no
> other "Civil War", but theirs.
I'm well aware that the Americans managed to have a Civil War rather
after ours, but if I see a post that just refers to "the Civil War" my
default interpretation is going to be that it refers to the English
one. I'm surprised there aren't posts from people in other countries
saying that there's never been a Civil War.
If you wish to do something other than refer to Civil Wars in general,
you'll need to make your reference more specific.
--
"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to
lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores
the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them
into it in the first place." - Douglas Adams
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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
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| Date | 2014-01-12 10:46 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <2014011210461360879-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> |
| In reply to | #3349 |
On 2014-01-12 18:33:02 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
> In article <2014011210252517719-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-01-12 18:03:46 +0000, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>>
>> > In article <2014011208071963901-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>> > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> > >> On 2014-01-12 09:19:22 +0000, Tim Streater
>> <timstreater@greenbee.net> said:
>> >> >> > In article
>> >> > <jimjaeger-1DF813.16385911012014@news.eternal-september.org>, Jim
>> >> > Jaeger <jimjaeger@example.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> In article <las31b$sho$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > This will make you feel *really* old. Remember the original
>> Star >> Wars >> > movie? Its release date was closer in time to the
>> attack on >> Pearl >> Harbor > than to today.
>> >> >> >> My birthdate is closer to the Civil War than to today.
>> >> >> >> You kids get off my lawn.
>> >> > > The Civil War was in the 1640s. Are you at least 180 years old?
>> >> >> When us folks in North America talk of the Civil War we think in
>> terms >> of 1861-65, The Union & The Confederacy, U.S. Grant & R. E.
>> Lee, not >> Parliamentarians & Royalists, Cromwell & Charles I.
>> >> So for a WWII veteran of say 90-95 years of age, his birthdate could
>> >> well be some 30 years closer to the U.S. Civil War than today.
>> > > Us folks are not in North America.
>>
>> Yup!
>> We are a tad insular when we read "Civil War", thinking only of ours.
>> That seems to be a trait shared with the English who seem to know of no
>> other "Civil War", but theirs.
>
> I'm well aware that the Americans managed to have a Civil War rather
> after ours, but if I see a post that just refers to "the Civil War" my
> default interpretation is going to be that it refers to the English
> one. I'm surprised there aren't posts from people in other countries
> saying that there's never been a Civil War.
>
> If you wish to do something other than refer to Civil Wars in general,
> you'll need to make your reference more specific.
I think we have the Biafran/Nigerian and Angolan Civil Wars covered by
our recent events calendar.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-01-12 12:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <120120141253554649%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #3349 |
In article <120120141833024989%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > I'm surprised there aren't posts from people in other countries > saying that there's never been a Civil War. > > If you wish to do something other than refer to Civil Wars in general, > you'll need to make your reference more specific. There is nothing civil about war. Just ask anyone who has fought in any war.
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| From | dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> |
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| Date | 2014-01-13 07:42 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <do_ray_me-FC0EA0.07420813012014@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #3352 |
In article <120120141253554649%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > There is nothing civil about war. Just ask anyone who has fought in > any war. Rather a cliche. But more important, a rather false one. There are plenty of things about the conduct of many a war that can be described as civil. -- dorayme
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| From | John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2014-01-12 15:36 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <lav8tn$vum$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3357 |
On 1/12/14 PDT, 12:42 PM, dorayme wrote: > In article <120120141253554649%michelle@michelle.org>, > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > >> There is nothing civil about war. Just ask anyone who has fought in >> any war. > > Rather a cliche. But more important, a rather false one. There are > plenty of things about the conduct of many a war that can be described > as civil. "Civil" in the case of that type of war means within the country. But one could also have a civil Civil War, if a chess match, for example, were held between N &S of the US, and were so titled.
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| From | dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> |
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| Date | 2014-01-13 11:09 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <do_ray_me-121134.11094713012014@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #3366 |
In article <lav8tn$vum$3@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: > On 1/12/14 PDT, 12:42 PM, dorayme wrote: > > In article <120120141253554649%michelle@michelle.org>, > > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > > >> There is nothing civil about war. Just ask anyone who has fought in > >> any war. > > > > Rather a cliche. But more important, a rather false one. There are > > plenty of things about the conduct of many a war that can be described > > as civil. > > "Civil" in the case of that type of war means within the country. > But one could also have a civil Civil War, if a chess match, for > example, were held between N &S of the US, and were so titled. Well, i guess you can cherry pick a case. But in the most uncivil of hot bloody wars there are aspects of it, sometimes strategically important aspects that are influenced by civility. It has been argued with some merit that the reason the Western Allies took so long to get to Berlin after D-Day was that they were not prepared to be as brutal as the Russians, neither in taking casualties nor in disposing of and mistreating prisoners. And many parts of the bloodiest wars have had outright civil contacts between the parties from time to time. -- dorayme
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| From | John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2014-01-15 10:39 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <lb6kkq$vj0$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3369 |
On 1/12/14 PDT, 4:09 PM, dorayme wrote: > In article <lav8tn$vum$3@dont-email.me>, > John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: > >> On 1/12/14 PDT, 12:42 PM, dorayme wrote: >>> In article <120120141253554649%michelle@michelle.org>, >>> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: >>> >>>> There is nothing civil about war. Just ask anyone who has fought in >>>> any war. >>> >>> Rather a cliche. But more important, a rather false one. There are >>> plenty of things about the conduct of many a war that can be described >>> as civil. >> >> "Civil" in the case of that type of war means within the country. >> But one could also have a civil Civil War, if a chess match, for >> example, were held between N &S of the US, and were so titled. > > Well, i guess you can cherry pick a case. I didn't.
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| From | dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> |
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| Date | 2014-01-16 07:11 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <do_ray_me-15DDD9.07115716012014@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #3393 |
In article <lb6kkq$vj0$3@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: > On 1/12/14 PDT, 4:09 PM, dorayme wrote: > > In article <lav8tn$vum$3@dont-email.me>, > > John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote: > > > >> On 1/12/14 PDT, 12:42 PM, dorayme wrote: > >>> In article <120120141253554649%michelle@michelle.org>, > >>> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>> There is nothing civil about war. Just ask anyone who has fought in > >>>> any war. > >>> > >>> Rather a cliche. But more important, a rather false one. There are > >>> plenty of things about the conduct of many a war that can be described > >>> as civil. > >> > >> "Civil" in the case of that type of war means within the country. > >> But one could also have a civil Civil War, if a chess match, for > >> example, were held between N &S of the US, and were so titled. > > > > Well, i guess you can cherry pick a case. > > I didn't. No, you didn't, I had meant to delete that sentence. I was irritated and made a mistake. Your post was more that you thought someone would not know the bleeding obvious, and you would explain anyway. You replied the way you did because you just thought you would explain a distinction, never mind the relevance to the particular subject of my post about wars (including The Civil War in America) being or not being civil. -- dorayme
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