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  How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-20 21:12 -0700
    Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-03-21 01:20 -0500
      Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-22 13:14 -0700
        Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-22 17:57 -0400
          Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-22 17:12 -0700
            Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2012-03-22 22:51 -0700
        Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-03-23 13:11 +1200
          Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? Sparky <see@thesig.net> - 2012-03-22 18:53 -0700
            Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? David Stone <no.email@domain.invalid> - 2012-03-23 09:02 -0400
              Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-23 13:53 -0700
                Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-03-24 12:14 +1200
                  Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) - 2012-03-24 03:26 +0000
                    Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-03-24 16:50 +1200
                      Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-24 08:34 -0400
                        Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-26 11:36 +0200
                        Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-03-26 20:31 -0400
                          Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-27 08:03 -0400
                      Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) - 2012-03-26 00:01 +0000
                  Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-24 08:30 -0400
              Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-23 13:54 -0700
        Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? David Sankey <David.Sankey@stfc.ac.uk> - 2012-03-23 15:52 +0000
      Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-22 19:03 -0700
        Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-22 19:06 -0700
        Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2012-03-23 20:02 +1300
          Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-23 00:42 -0700
        Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-23 14:55 -0400
          Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-23 14:02 -0700
            Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-24 08:29 -0400
              Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-24 09:04 -0700
                Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-24 12:27 -0400
                  Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-24 10:34 -0700
                    Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-24 15:10 -0400
                      Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-24 15:18 -0700
                        Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-03-24 18:47 -0400
          Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch> - 2012-03-24 13:05 +0100
    Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? David Sankey <David.Sankey@stfc.ac.uk> - 2012-03-23 15:58 +0000
      Re: How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server? DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> - 2012-03-23 14:04 -0700

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#699 — How to configure Snow Leopard to use proxy server?

I want to configure Snow Leopard to use a proxy server for a few web sites.

It looks like if I configure it with a proxy server, that it defaults to 
using this server nearly always.

Can I use OS X's proxy settings to use the proxy server based on URL 
patterns, rather than to NOT use proxy server based on URL patterns? In other 
words, can I make the default action to not use the proxy server, and to use 
the proxy if the URL is one of the few I specify?

Thanks,
Dave

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#700

In article 
<0001HW.CB8EA322035EC53FB01029BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
 DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:

> I want to configure Snow Leopard to use a proxy server for a few web sites.
> 
> It looks like if I configure it with a proxy server, that it defaults to 
> using this server nearly always.
> 
> Can I use OS X's proxy settings to use the proxy server based on URL 
> patterns, rather than to NOT use proxy server based on URL patterns? In other 
> words, can I make the default action to not use the proxy server, and to use 
> the proxy if the URL is one of the few I specify?

You need to use a proxy.pac file.  This is a file containing a 
JavaScript function that looks at the URL and decides whether to use a 
proxy or not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_auto-config

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#706

> You need to use a proxy.pac file.  This is a file containing a 
> JavaScript function that looks at the URL and decides whether to use a 
> proxy or not.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_auto-config

In what directory is this file to be placed?

Thanks.

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#707

On 03-22-2012 16:14, DaveC wrote:
>> You need to use a proxy.pac file.  This is a file containing a
>> JavaScript function that looks at the URL and decides whether to use a
>> proxy or not.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_auto-config
>
> In what directory is this file to be placed?

Maybe the one you specify in System Preferences -> Network -> Advanced 
-> Automatic Proxy config ?

-- 
Wes Groleau

    Nobody believes a theoretical analysis — except the guy who did it.
    Everybody believes an experimental analysis — except the guy who did it.
                                  — Unknown

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#709

> Maybe the one you specify in System Preferences -> Network -> Advanced 
> -> Automatic Proxy config ?
> [Wes G.]

It allows you to place it anywhere. Where's a good folder to store it?

Thanks.

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#715

In article 
<0001HW.CB910DFD03EFD193B01029BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
 DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:

> > Maybe the one you specify in System Preferences -> Network -> Advanced 
> > -> Automatic Proxy config ?
> > [Wes G.]
> 
> It allows you to place it anywhere. Where's a good folder to store it?
> 
> Thanks.

No folder is any better than any other, really, but since it's 
essentially a preference you're setting up, why not store it in your 
Preferences folder?

-- 
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

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#708

> You need to use a proxy.pac file.  This is a file containing a 
> JavaScript function that looks at the URL and decides whether to use a 
> proxy or not.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_auto-config

It could be easier to just use a different web browser - use Safari for
the "normal" websites and Firefox for the websites that need a proxy
server.

Helpful Harry  :o)

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#711

> It could be easier to just use a different web browser - use Safari for
> the "normal" websites and Firefox for the websites that need a proxy
> server.
> 
> Helpful Harry  :o)

Man, I SO wanted to do this. 

I tried it (Safari & Firefox) but 2 browsers eat up HUGE memory and disk swap 
file space. My Mac slowed to a creep. 

Having more than one browser open eats up system resources that are best 
spent elsewhere...

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#719

In article 
<0001HW.CB9125BD00010C9AB02919BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Sparky <see@thesig.net> wrote:

> > It could be easier to just use a different web browser - use Safari for
> > the "normal" websites and Firefox for the websites that need a proxy
> > server.
> > 
> > Helpful Harry  :o)
> 
> Man, I SO wanted to do this. 
> 
> I tried it (Safari & Firefox) but 2 browsers eat up HUGE memory and disk swap 
> file space. My Mac slowed to a creep. 

How ancient is your Mac? I have no problem with Safari, Firefox, Opera,
Dreamweaver, Mail, and a bunch of other apps open at the same time - not
even on my old G4 iBook...

Incidentally, although it's been snipped here, you appeared to be
trying to use a proxy to access the BBC web site. Just wondering why?

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#724

> Incidentally, although it's been snipped here, you appeared to be
> trying to use a proxy to access the BBC web site. Just wondering why?

One may not like Brit TV, but I like to watch some of the documentaries and 
such archived there. Once in a while they have a decent (American!) film 
available. These aren't available unless you're using a proxy or such...

Dave

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#728

In article <0001HW.CB9230D7003FA71FB02919BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
newsgroups wrote:
> > 
> > Incidentally, although it's been snipped here, you appeared to be
> > trying to use a proxy to access the BBC web site. Just wondering why?
> 
> One may not like Brit TV, but I like to watch some of the documentaries and 
> such archived there. Once in a while they have a decent (American!) film 
> available. These aren't available unless you're using a proxy or such...

Doing that is actually illegal and break the terms of the agreement for
using the website. 

Networks restrict access to people within the country for licensing reasons. 

In the UK people also pay a television license fee, so some content is
free to them, but has to be paid for by people in other countries who are
not paying the TV license fee (e.g. the Doctor Who adventure games).

Helpful Harry  :o)

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#729

In article <HelpfulHarry-2403121214560001@203-118-187-238.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz>,
Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com> wrote:
>In article <0001HW.CB9230D7003FA71FB02919BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
>newsgroups wrote:
>> > 
>> > Incidentally, although it's been snipped here, you appeared to be
>> > trying to use a proxy to access the BBC web site. Just wondering why?
>> 
>> One may not like Brit TV, but I like to watch some of the documentaries and 
>> such archived there. Once in a while they have a decent (American!) film 
>> available. These aren't available unless you're using a proxy or such...
>
>Doing that is actually illegal and break the terms of the agreement for
>using the website. 

Meh.  I didn't agree to any such terms.  As for illegal, that's a
tough one; you'd probably have to take the exhaustion case all the way
to the Supreme Court.
-- 
The problem with socialism is there's always 
someone with less ability and more need.

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#730

In article <jkjesm$2ur$1@dont-email.me>, russotto@grace.speakeasy.net
(Matthew Russotto) wrote:
> In article <HelpfulHarry-2403121214560001@203-118-187-238.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz>,
> Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com> wrote:
> >In article <0001HW.CB9230D7003FA71FB02919BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >newsgroups wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > Incidentally, although it's been snipped here, you appeared to be
> >> > trying to use a proxy to access the BBC web site. Just wondering why?
> >> 
> >> One may not like Brit TV, but I like to watch some of the
documentaries and 
> >> such archived there. Once in a while they have a decent (American!) film 
> >> available. These aren't available unless you're using a proxy or such...
> >
> >Doing that is actually illegal and break the terms of the agreement for
> >using the website. 
> 
> Meh.  I didn't agree to any such terms. 

You did agree by continuing to use the website. Whether you actually read
the Terms & Conditions or whether you personally think they're right is
irrelevant.



> As for illegal, that's a tough one; you'd probably have to take the 
> exhaustion case all the way to the Supreme Court.

Being on a dial-up connection, I haven't checked that website, but like
others it probably states in the text that it is only for UK residents,
and if so then there's no question about it at all - it *IS* illegal, and
again what you personally want to believe is irrelevant and I'm not going
to bother arguing with you about it any further.

Helpful Harry  :o)

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#734

In article 
<HelpfulHarry-2403121650150001@203-118-187-101.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz>,
 HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) wrote:

> Being on a dial-up connection, I haven't checked that website, but like
> others it probably states in the text that it is only for UK residents,
> and if so then there's no question about it at all - it *IS* illegal, and
> again what you personally want to believe is irrelevant and I'm not going
> to bother arguing with you about it any further.
> 
> Helpful Harry  :o)

C'mon Harry, provide a link to the statute that's being broken. Is it a 
felony? Or just a misdemeanor? If it were illegal, Harry, Witopia 
wouldn't be in business.

What _is_ illegal  is that, to watch British TV live, even on the 
Internet, one is required to have a British TV license, which I don't. I 
had one once't though. That's for _live_ teevee, though.
-- 

... do not cover a warm kettle or your stock may sour. -- Julia Child

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#762

On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 08:34:13 -0400, Warren Oates wrote:

> In article
> <HelpfulHarry-2403121650150001@203-118-187-101.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz>,
>  HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) wrote:
> 
>> Being on a dial-up connection, I haven't checked that website, but like
>> others it probably states in the text that it is only for UK residents,
>> and if so then there's no question about it at all - it *IS* illegal,
>> and again what you personally want to believe is irrelevant and I'm not
>> going to bother arguing with you about it any further.
>> 
>> Helpful Harry  :o)
> 
> C'mon Harry, provide a link to the statute that's being broken. Is it a
> felony? Or just a misdemeanor? If it were illegal, Harry, Witopia
> wouldn't be in business.
> 
> What _is_ illegal  is that, to watch British TV live, even on the
> Internet, one is required to have a British TV license, which I don't. I
> had one once't though. That's for _live_ teevee, though.

Hehe.  That could be read as "the requirement to have a British TV 
license is illegal" :-)

Whatever, the requirement to have a TV licence for live telly only 
applies to UK residents.

What does annoy me is when the BBC put a video on their news website and 
stick adverts in front for foreign non-UK IP addresses, but only after 
you have watched the advert do they tell you that the video content is 
restricted.  They can't have it both ways.

-- 
Paul Sture

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#768

On 03-24-2012 08:34, Warren Oates wrote:
> C'mon Harry, provide a link to the statute that's being broken. Is it a
> felony? Or just a misdemeanor? If it were illegal, Harry, Witopia
> wouldn't be in business.

I'm too lazy to look and see, but I'd be surprised if their terms of 
service don't include "you can't do anything illegal."  Also be 
surprised if BBC ever bothers to check.

As long as I'm courting surprise, I'd be surprised if proving a 
violation weren't impossible.

-- 
Wes Groleau

Change is inevitable.  We need to learn that “inevitable" is
neither a synonym for “good" nor for “bad.”

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#772

In article <jkr1pc$jir$1@dont-email.me>,
 Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:

> I'm too lazy to look and see, but I'd be surprised if their terms of 
> service don't include "you can't do anything illegal."  Also be 
> surprised if BBC ever bothers to check.

Of course the Beeb checks on that; that's why most cheapo proxy servers 
fail. Witopia seem to buy bandwidth or space or whatever under different 
corporate names wherever they operate. And the TOS might also say 
"shower daily and give your mum a call tonight" and so what?

> 
> As long as I'm courting surprise, I'd be surprised if proving a 
> violation weren't impossible.

As I asked Helpful back there: What kind of violation? Should I be ready 
for an extradition hearing?
-- 

... do not cover a warm kettle or your stock may sour. -- Julia Child

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#754

In article <HelpfulHarry-2403121650150001@203-118-187-101.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz>,
Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com> wrote:
>In article <jkjesm$2ur$1@dont-email.me>, russotto@grace.speakeasy.net
>(Matthew Russotto) wrote:
>> In article <HelpfulHarry-2403121214560001@203-118-187-238.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz>,
>> Helpful Harry <HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com> wrote:
>> >In article <0001HW.CB9230D7003FA71FB02919BF@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> >newsgroups wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> > Incidentally, although it's been snipped here, you appeared to be
>> >> > trying to use a proxy to access the BBC web site. Just wondering why?
>> >> 
>> >> One may not like Brit TV, but I like to watch some of the
>documentaries and 
>> >> such archived there. Once in a while they have a decent (American!) film 
>> >> available. These aren't available unless you're using a proxy or such...
>> >
>> >Doing that is actually illegal and break the terms of the agreement for
>> >using the website. 
>> 
>> Meh.  I didn't agree to any such terms. 
>
>You did agree by continuing to use the website. Whether you actually read
>the Terms & Conditions or whether you personally think they're right is
>irrelevant.

Doesn't sound like it meets the basic requirements of contract law.  I
could state on my website that by clicking in the links you agreed to
pay me $100 per clicked link, but that wouldn't make it so.

>> As for illegal, that's a tough one; you'd probably have to take the 
>> exhaustion case all the way to the Supreme Court.
>
>Being on a dial-up connection, I haven't checked that website, but like
>others it probably states in the text that it is only for UK residents,
>and if so then there's no question about it at all - it *IS* illegal

Really?  Simply stating something in text makes it binding in law?
That's an interesting theory. 
-- 
The problem with socialism is there's always 
someone with less ability and more need.

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#733

In article 
<HelpfulHarry-2403121214560001@203-118-187-238.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz>,
 HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) wrote:

> Doing that is actually illegal and break the terms of the agreement for
> using the website. 

No, Harry, it's not "illegal." Jesus. I bet you squeeze your toothpaste 
from the bottom.
-- 

... do not cover a warm kettle or your stock may sour. -- Julia Child

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#725

> How ancient is your Mac? I have no problem with Safari, Firefox, Opera,
> Dreamweaver, Mail, and a bunch of other apps open at the same time - not
> even on my old G4 iBook...

2011 mini 2.7 GHz i7, OS X 10.6 (yes 10.6).

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