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| Started by | Crosby Livingston <crosbylivingston44584@verizon.net> |
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| First post | 2015-04-24 04:08 -0500 |
| Last post | 2015-04-26 15:19 -0400 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 251 — 31 participants |
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The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Crosby Livingston <crosbylivingston44584@verizon.net> - 2015-04-24 04:08 -0500
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-24 09:07 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-24 14:38 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-04-24 10:51 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-24 15:20 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-24 12:48 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Király <ggrandish@gmail.com> - 2015-04-24 13:09 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-25 08:59 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-25 08:19 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2015-04-25 21:28 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-26 08:53 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-24 07:55 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2015-04-24 09:43 -0600
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-24 21:01 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 17:09 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-24 23:21 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-24 21:56 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-25 00:04 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-24 22:23 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-25 00:40 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 18:50 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-25 00:57 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-24 23:45 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-25 10:35 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 08:02 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-25 13:07 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 13:32 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-26 15:02 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 16:15 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 15:39 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 15:00 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 16:19 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 16:18 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 15:22 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 18:11 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 17:14 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 19:07 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-26 23:36 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 12:47 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 13:33 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 09:07 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 13:58 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 13:24 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 19:50 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-24 23:42 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 18:33 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2015-04-24 18:35 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 14:03 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-25 10:14 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-26 08:58 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-26 15:04 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 13:55 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-26 16:36 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 14:59 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 07:53 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-26 17:56 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 13:18 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-24 21:26 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 17:38 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-24 21:55 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-24 15:06 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 18:33 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-24 15:43 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 01:32 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Uncle Joe <unclejoe@hush.ai> - 2015-04-25 01:48 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 23:31 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2015-04-25 03:55 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 08:09 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 12:34 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-25 13:42 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 13:54 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 10:58 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 09:07 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-25 16:38 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 09:07 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2015-04-25 10:22 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 14:25 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-25 15:26 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2015-04-25 17:59 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 10:58 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-25 08:31 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2015-04-25 22:13 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 07:39 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-26 13:03 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2015-04-26 09:38 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 10:11 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 07:50 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 16:29 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 10:07 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 18:54 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 11:12 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-28 20:08 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-28 12:11 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 11:31 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-25 22:57 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-25 23:13 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 07:43 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 07:39 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 16:16 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-24 19:12 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 12:41 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 09:07 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 14:21 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-24 23:31 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 14:27 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 14:00 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 16:29 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 15:59 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 12:04 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 16:12 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 13:32 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 17:37 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 18:23 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 17:34 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 14:06 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 18:36 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 19:04 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 11:09 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 19:24 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 11:50 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-26 13:04 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 16:51 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-27 13:32 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-27 08:51 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 18:36 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 16:01 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 22:05 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 17:44 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 22:48 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-27 13:43 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-27 08:51 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-27 06:53 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-27 15:04 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-27 08:45 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-28 20:02 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-28 20:01 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-28 12:09 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-27 13:41 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-27 08:51 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 22:40 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-27 13:39 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-27 06:51 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-28 20:04 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-28 12:10 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-27 13:27 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-27 08:51 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-27 14:20 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-27 17:02 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-26 18:57 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-26 15:19 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 18:51 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 11:11 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 18:25 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-26 19:13 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jesper Kaas <jesperk@neitakk.online.no> - 2015-04-24 18:26 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-24 12:39 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2015-04-24 17:59 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac mick <no.spam@junk.mail> - 2015-04-24 20:57 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Uncle Joe <unclejoe@hush.ai> - 2015-04-25 01:46 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 14:35 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Uncle Joe <unclejoe@hush.ai> - 2015-04-25 01:39 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-04-25 08:01 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 08:05 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac A <a@a.com> - 2015-04-25 16:07 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2015-04-25 15:38 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac A <a@a.com> - 2015-04-25 21:03 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2015-04-25 21:36 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac A <a@a.com> - 2015-04-26 10:43 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 16:14 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac A <a@a.com> - 2015-04-25 21:03 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-04-25 18:52 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2015-04-25 13:20 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-25 13:40 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 09:07 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 13:58 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 14:10 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-25 16:34 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-25 15:23 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 14:28 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 16:26 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-25 17:46 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 14:10 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 10:58 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-04-25 18:54 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-25 21:57 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 22:12 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-25 18:53 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 23:50 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac A <a@a.com> - 2015-04-26 10:43 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 07:37 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 13:52 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 10:34 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-26 07:41 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-04-26 03:36 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-25 23:14 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 13:52 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Fred Bambrough <fred@[127.0.0.1]> - 2015-04-25 17:37 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 17:30 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 19:28 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-25 21:55 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac A <a@a.com> - 2015-04-25 16:08 +0200
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-25 13:33 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 12:45 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 09:07 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 13:54 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 10:58 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Dave <example@example.net> - 2015-04-25 15:07 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 16:19 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-25 16:40 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 19:23 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> - 2015-04-25 12:03 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 12:43 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Dave <example@example.net> - 2015-04-25 15:08 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-25 13:50 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Ken Springer <wordworks@greeleynet.com> - 2015-04-25 09:48 -0600
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-25 11:48 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-25 16:20 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 15:20 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 15:19 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 14:55 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 16:40 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-26 15:58 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 16:06 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 16:00 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 15:06 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 16:47 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 16:08 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 18:57 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 18:27 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-26 15:19 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 20:08 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-26 16:14 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 20:30 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 16:45 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-26 15:59 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 18:58 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-27 00:02 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-27 09:19 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-27 17:08 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-04-26 10:05 -0700
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 17:12 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-04-26 18:58 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-26 18:29 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 18:59 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-26 18:56 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-26 23:39 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-26 19:44 -0400
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-27 01:58 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-27 09:17 +0100
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-27 12:55 +0000
Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-26 15:19 -0400
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| From | John <Man@the.keyboard> |
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| Date | 2015-04-27 13:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <s4bsja5sdhvkvamfpe2451b1mhughu93bm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #29673 |
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 22:05:11 +0100, Tim Streater
<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>In article <cq4phbFhhmbU18@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2015-04-26, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> What *is* an Apple TV? I keep seeing it referred to, but have never
>>> seen a simple explanation of what it does.
>>
>>It's a little black box you connect to your television that allows you
>>to stream content from the internet, computers, and iOS devices to your
>>television on demand.
>
>What extra might it give me that the telly is not already giving me?
Sports channels and old movie channels and access, via iTunes, to
*some* of the movies on your home network.
So long as you didn't save them as AVI, or in the original VOB format
in VIDEO_TS folders or even as *.ISO copies of the entire disk.
AppleTv ignores *all* of those.
>It's already connected to the Internet. I already get BBC iPlayer on
>the TV. I've seen NetFlix is on there but have no interest in
>subscription services.
Netflix offers a free month. It's worth trying just to make sure you
aren't missing much.
Like the BBC, ITV, C4 and C5 on-demand services, you can access
Netflix on your TV through a web browser like Firefox from your
computer, even if it's a Mac.
There are other subscription, and free, TV and film services. Many of
them. AppleTV has a few pre-loaded. What AppleTV does not do is allow
us to load more onto it.
Nor can it accept an external drive attached to its USB port. Nor
does it record in any way.
Apple tell us we don't need that function as everything is online
anyway.
J.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2015-04-27 06:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <270420150651236970%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #29689 |
In article <s4bsja5sdhvkvamfpe2451b1mhughu93bm@4ax.com>, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: > Nor can it accept an external drive attached to its USB port. Nor > does it record in any way. > Apple tell us we don't need that function as everything is online > anyway. Well, actually, Apple's customers who bought the first version of Apple TV told that to Apple.
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| From | John <Man@the.keyboard> |
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| Date | 2015-04-28 20:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ibmvjatr433t11mpm848lcbi35uadp6roq@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #29697 |
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 06:51:23 -0700, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>In article <s4bsja5sdhvkvamfpe2451b1mhughu93bm@4ax.com>, John
><Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>
>> Nor can it accept an external drive attached to its USB port. Nor
>> does it record in any way.
>> Apple tell us we don't need that function as everything is online
>> anyway.
>
>Well, actually, Apple's customers who bought the first version of Apple
>TV told that to Apple.
Really? Why?
Oh, and I stand corrected, thanks.
J.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-28 12:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <280420151210561222%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #29724 |
In article <ibmvjatr433t11mpm848lcbi35uadp6roq@4ax.com>, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: > On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 06:51:23 -0700, Michelle Steiner > <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > >In article <s4bsja5sdhvkvamfpe2451b1mhughu93bm@4ax.com>, John > ><Man@the.keyboard> wrote: > > > >> Nor can it accept an external drive attached to its USB port. Nor > >> does it record in any way. > >> Apple tell us we don't need that function as everything is online > >> anyway. > > > >Well, actually, Apple's customers who bought the first version of Apple > >TV told that to Apple. > > Really? Why? Because they streamed almost everything, and rarely (with some exceptions of course; there are always exceptions) recorded anything to its hard drive. > Oh, and I stand corrected, thanks. :)
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| From | John <Man@the.keyboard> |
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| Date | 2015-04-27 13:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <i5asja9nlhpr1oe2pkivarsaeuj6sf9to2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #29649 |
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 19:04:05 +0100, Tim Streater
<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>In article <9i7qjaplfkm7iv1c0236scs6n7lre337gh@4ax.com>, John
><Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 12:04:27 -0400, Warren Oates
>><warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <cq4gblFhhmbU6@mid.individual.net>,
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seriously? I think it would be pretty silly to expect the AppleTV to
>>>> magically see all hard drives connected to your computers with no
>>>> software in place to make the content available to the AppleTV.
>>>
>>>I've never used Apple TV, but my HTPC (running Kodi) sees all the drives
>>>on all my computers that have either Samba or Avahi (Zeroconf/Bonjour)
>>>enabled. Does Apple TV not support Bonjour or Samba?
>>
>> AppleTV does not support just about *anything*. It won't even play
>>AVI files, of which I have lots.
>> Basically, it is a very restrictive piece of kit, but it was cheap
>>and it's a new toy so I'm not whining.
>> But JR is being disingenuous. It *must* have iTunes running somewhere
>>of only the AppleTV box itself shows. *Wiht* iTunes it can become a
>>very poor, very restrictive networked device.
>> JR *knows* this but he's reluctant, for some strange reason to admit
>>that any Apple product has *any* flaw. Even when they are obvious,
>>glaring and bloody annoying.
>> Which some are.
>
>What *is* an Apple TV? I keep seeing it referred to, but have never
>seen a simple explanation of what it does.
It is a box that can be connected to your home network to stream
video files through iTunes. Only *SOME* video files. AVI are
specifically excluded for some Apple Licencing reason. It can also
download video files (and music) through iTunes from the Internet.
And it has a selection of video file and music supply services built
in which work without iTunes. Netflix is one of these, the others (in
the UK) are all minor film and TV program suppliers who only have
licences for movies no one ever watches or sports TV channels like
ESPN. I *never* watch sports of any kind so those are wasted on me but
I recognise that JR and many others probably love them.
It does *NOT* support video on demand services from the BBC, ITV, C4,
C5 or any other major network nor does it *NATIVELY* link to any of
your networked devices. It *MUST* have iTunes to access anything apart
from the few, poor on-line services.
AppleTV is a toy.
The original AppleTv did have a HDD and did allow us to record stuff
but Apple got rid of that ability in Mark II.
I am *NOT* whining about it's poor quality, I quite like the box. It
does what it is supposed to and it does it very well. The menu is easy
to use and the remote is cute.
But JR is being rather fanboi and dogmatic and stupid when he insists
that it is the greatest thing since the iPad.
My Blu-Ray player has more functionality and *that* is supposed to be
a *player* not a networked device. It is also less restrictive.
And the BR *does* get BBC On-Demand TV.
Hell, my *MacBook* can see that.
J.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-27 08:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <270420150851324552%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #29687 |
In article <i5asja9nlhpr1oe2pkivarsaeuj6sf9to2@4ax.com>, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: > > > >What *is* an Apple TV? I keep seeing it referred to, but have never > >seen a simple explanation of what it does. > > It is a box that can be connected to your home network to stream > video files through iTunes. Only *SOME* video files. AVI are > specifically excluded for some Apple Licencing reason. wrong. > It can also > download video files (and music) through iTunes from the Internet. > And it has a selection of video file and music supply services built > in which work without iTunes. Netflix is one of these, the others (in > the UK) are all minor film and TV program suppliers who only have > licences for movies no one ever watches or sports TV channels like > ESPN. I *never* watch sports of any kind so those are wasted on me but > I recognise that JR and many others probably love them. > It does *NOT* support video on demand services from the BBC, ITV, C4, > C5 or any other major network nor does it *NATIVELY* link to any of > your networked devices. It *MUST* have iTunes to access anything apart > from the few, poor on-line services. blame bbc tv for not supporting apple tv. they chose not to. > AppleTV is a toy. millions disagree. > The original AppleTv did have a HDD and did allow us to record stuff > but Apple got rid of that ability in Mark II. apple got rid of it because it was an incredibly stupid design and a feature that few people used. the new design is significantly more popular. > I am *NOT* whining about it's poor quality, I quite like the box. It > does what it is supposed to and it does it very well. The menu is easy > to use and the remote is cute. then it's not poor quality, is it? > But JR is being rather fanboi and dogmatic and stupid when he insists > that it is the greatest thing since the iPad. where did he say that? > My Blu-Ray player has more functionality and *that* is supposed to be > a *player* not a networked device. It is also less restrictive. two totally different products. > And the BR *does* get BBC On-Demand TV. again, blame bbc tv. they chose not to support apple tv. > Hell, my *MacBook* can see that. so what.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-27 14:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cq6usjF77f3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #29687 |
On 2015-04-27, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: > > But JR is being rather fanboi and dogmatic and stupid when he insists > that it is the greatest thing since the iPad. I never said that. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-27 17:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmjsqvf.29a.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #29700 |
In message <cq6usjF77f3U1@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2015-04-27, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: >> >> But JR is being rather fanboi and dogmatic and stupid when he insists >> that it is the greatest thing since the iPad. > I never said that. No one said that. I think that overall, the Roku 3 is considerably better. But the Apple TV has some things going for it that the Roku and others do not. -- He'd never asked for an exciting life. What he really liked, what he sought on every occasion, was boredom. The trouble was that boredom tended to explode in your face. Just when he thought he'd found it he'd be suddenly involved in what he supposed other people - thoughtless, feckless people - would call an adventure. And he'd be forced to visit many strange lands and meet exotic and colourful people, although not for very long because usually he'd be running. He'd seen the creation of the universe, although not from a good seat, and had visited Hell and the afterlife. He'd been captured, imprisoned, rescued, lost and marooned. Sometimes it had all happened on the same day.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-26 18:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmjqdb0.73b.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #29638 |
In message <9i7qjaplfkm7iv1c0236scs6n7lre337gh@4ax.com> John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: > On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 12:04:27 -0400, Warren Oates > <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: >>In article <cq4gblFhhmbU6@mid.individual.net>, >> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >>> Seriously? I think it would be pretty silly to expect the AppleTV to >>> magically see all hard drives connected to your computers with no >>> software in place to make the content available to the AppleTV. >> >>I've never used Apple TV, but my HTPC (running Kodi) sees all the drives >>on all my computers that have either Samba or Avahi (Zeroconf/Bonjour) >>enabled. Does Apple TV not support Bonjour or Samba? > > AppleTV does not support just about *anything*. It won't even play > AVI files, of which I have lots. AVI is a container, and a terrible one at that. AVI containers may contain an mpeg file (In fact, I think they usually do). I do wish Apple supported MKV files, but changing container types is pretty damn easy. My only real problem with the M4V files is that they only support a single subtitle track, > But JR is being disingenuous. It *must* have iTunes running somewhere > of only the AppleTV box itself shows. *Wiht* iTunes it can become a > very poor, very restrictive networked device. It does NOT need iTunes at all unless you want to access files you have only in iTunes. I nearly never do that on my AppleTV since I use it to access Netflix, HBO, and "Music Match" files. The AppleTV also subscribes to one of my photo albums via iCloud for the photos to use in the screensaver. It can also, without iTunes again, access any video files that were purchased from the iTunes store. -- It's better to burn out than it is to rust -- Neil Young as quoted be Kurt Cobain
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-26 15:19 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <260420151519106062%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #29638 |
In article <9i7qjaplfkm7iv1c0236scs6n7lre337gh@4ax.com>, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: > AppleTV does not support just about *anything*. It won't even play > AVI files, of which I have lots. avi is a container, as is mov. what matters is the codec used.
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| From | John <Man@the.keyboard> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-26 18:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <pp7qja5uv1i1m01juifbh527h6kllh53qu@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #29627 |
On 26 Apr 2015 15:59:49 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>On 2015-04-26, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>> On 26 Apr 2015 14:00:45 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2015-04-26, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The only possible issue with iTunes is that AppleTV seems to like
>>>> your network having a copy somewhere
>>>
>>>No, AppleTV functions just fine without a copy of iTunes on the network.
>>
>> Mine doesn't.
>
>Of course it does. Apple doesn't force anyone to install iTunes on a
>computer.
No, they do it themselves before you buy it.
>If you have no need for iTunes, don't use it. Your AppleTV
>works just fine without it.
Only as a set-top box, a sort of restrictive "freeview" type device
not as a part of the network which is one of AppleTV's main selling
points. If you want network you need iTunes.
No iTunes, no network.
Unless there's something I've missed? I would be very happy to be
told I'm wrong in this and to be given a simple setting that I can
toggle so the AppleTV box can network without iTunes.
Without iTunes and *with* AVI.
>
>> Or at least I don't *think* it will. It only sees the NAS drive if I
>> activate iTunes on the Macbook.
>
>Seriously? I think it would be pretty silly to expect the AppleTV to
>magically see all hard drives connected to your computers with no
>software in place to make the content available to the AppleTV.
So why isn't the software *ON* *THE* *APPLETV* *BOX* *ITSELF*?
My Macbook has onboard software (and other stuff I've added to play
with) and *IT* can see the network but the AppleTV box can *NOT* not
without a second machine running, *ACTIVELY* running iTunes.
My Win-boxes can see the network with only their onboard software.
Fuck, even the bloody TV can do this.
But not the AppleTV box.
AppleTv is broken. Crippled. Incomplete.
> You can
>use iTunes to stream content from a computer to your AppleTV. This
>doesn't translate into AppleTV "liking" you to have iTunes - a better
>way to word it is *you* like to have iTunes installed somewhere so you
>can stream content from a computer to your AppleTV.
So why isn't it ON THE APPLETV BOX?
Why does the AppleTV box need a second machine actively running
iTunes before it sees anything?
My PC doesn't. It can network on its own. My Macbook can network on
its own. Fuck, even my TV can do it.
But not the AppleTv box. It *NEEDS* and *MUST* *HAVE* an active
iTunes program running on a second machine before it can see the other
networked devices.
I don't understand why you are so reluctant to see this as a flaw in
the AppleTV box.
>
>> It only sees the *Macbook* if I activate iTunes.
>
>Yep, so?
So why? It's a design flaw and a deliberate one.
I can read the NAS drive from my PC or my Macbook without iTunes. I
can read my NAS drive from my PC without my Macbook and from my
Macbook without my PC but the AppleTV box won't even acknowledge it
exists unless iTunes is running somewhere.
That is *crippled*.
And I don't understand why you are so reluctant to accept that ApplTv
is a broken product. It is like the iWatch. Incomplete and not very
functional on its own.
Yes, I do know it has Netflix, too, and that *DOES* work without
iTunes.
Buying and downloading other stuff does not.
>
>> Okay, so maybe I'm not set up properly but what I have is what I
>> have. Maybe I'll fiddle when I get bored. Maybe someone wise and kind
>> will suggest a simple toggle I can click?
>
>You are doing it the right way. I'm not sure how you see this as a
>problem.
Obviously because you won't see the AppleTV box as incomplete,
"broken" kit which it is.
It is supposed to be a networked, Internet ready device. I can't load
programs or services onto it when I wish and I can't use it to see
*my* network without iTunes running.
Nor, under any circumstances can I get it to run AVI movie files.
That is *broken*.
It's a fun toy and I'm not whining about the restrictive nature of it
as I knew what I was buying before I bought it but I don't understand
your complete reluctance to see that as a file distribution device my
1994 Win 3 box does a *far* better job.
Hell, my *stereo* is less restrictive. Also cheaper.
>
>>>> The safest way of avoiding this "problem" is, obviously, not having
>>>> an AppleTV but I saw one for not much pounds so I bought it. It's one
>>>> more toy to amuse me.
>>>
>>>That's a very silly "solution".
>>
>> Yes, but it is *safe*. :)
>
>I don't see how it's any more "safe" than the better solution. : )
I did not say it was *more* only that it *is*.
Don't they teach English in your country?
J.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-26 11:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <260420151111480278%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #29642 |
In article <pp7qja5uv1i1m01juifbh527h6kllh53qu@4ax.com>, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: > >If you have no need for iTunes, don't use it. Your AppleTV > >works just fine without it. > > Only as a set-top box, a sort of restrictive "freeview" type device > not as a part of the network which is one of AppleTV's main selling > points. If you want network you need iTunes. > No iTunes, no network. Wrong. You need iTunes *only* if you want to stream media from your computer. The apps on the Apple TV work without iTunes, and you can access media in iCloud on your network without iTunes.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-26 18:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cq4osnFhhmbU15@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #29642 |
On 2015-04-26, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: > On 26 Apr 2015 15:59:49 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >>On 2015-04-26, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: >>> On 26 Apr 2015 14:00:45 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On 2015-04-26, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The only possible issue with iTunes is that AppleTV seems to like >>>>> your network having a copy somewhere >>>> >>>>No, AppleTV functions just fine without a copy of iTunes on the network. >>> >>> Mine doesn't. >> >>Of course it does. Apple doesn't force anyone to install iTunes on a >>computer. > > No, they do it themselves before you buy it. Not for Windows computers, nope. And the point is that AppleTV doesn't need iTunes to exist to function. If you don't want iTunes on your Mac, you are free to delete it. You're playing silly little games here, and it's boring. >>If you have no need for iTunes, don't use it. Your AppleTV works just >>fine without it. > > Only as a set-top box, a sort of restrictive "freeview" type device > not as a part of the network which is one of AppleTV's main selling > points. If you want network you need iTunes. Wrong. The only thing you need iTunes for is to stream content from a computer to an AppleTV. You can stream content from iOS devices without iTunes. You can watch streaming content from the internet through the AppleTV without iTunes. And so on. > No iTunes, no network. Bullshit. > Unless there's something I've missed? I would be very happy to be > told I'm wrong in this and to be given a simple setting that I can > toggle so the AppleTV box can network without iTunes. If you can't figure that out on your own, you're hopeless. It's not like the AppleTV UI is complicated. > Without iTunes and *with* AVI. I couldn't care less about playing crappy AVI videos. I bought mine to play standard H.264 and MPEG content, and it does that very well. I knew before I bought it what video formats were supported - it's stated in the specifications for the device, after all: <https://www.apple.com/appletv/specs/> If you bought your AppleTV without learning how it is designed and what it can do, then that's your problem. You don't get to turn around and complain about it without losing credibility here. >>Seriously? I think it would be pretty silly to expect the AppleTV to >>magically see all hard drives connected to your computers with no >>software in place to make the content available to the AppleTV. > > So why isn't the software *ON* *THE* *APPLETV* *BOX* *ITSELF*? AppleTV doesn't include software to browse network file share volumes because Apple chose another way to do it. > My Macbook has onboard software (and other stuff I've added to play > with) and *IT* can see the network but the AppleTV box can *NOT* not > without a second machine running, *ACTIVELY* running iTunes. Bull. It sees the network just fine, evidenced by the fact that you can stream content from iOS devices and do all sorts of other internet-related things without iTunes installed on a computer on the network. It just doesn't support file browsing on shared network volumes on connected computers. There is a difference between accessing a home network and browsing file shares, and you want me to ignore it, I suppose. Not happening. > My Win-boxes can see the network with only their onboard software. Your Windows computers can browse file shares on the network. So can your Macs. The AppleTV isn't a Windows computer or a Mac computer, and doesn't try to act like one. If you dislike the design, you shouldn't have purchased it. > Fuck, even the bloody TV can do this. Not my television, and certainly not all of them, nope. "Smart" televisions may do it, but then they do all sorts of things I don't need. > But not the AppleTV box. AppleTv is broken. Crippled. Incomplete. Yet you bought one. You're silly. >> You can >>use iTunes to stream content from a computer to your AppleTV. This >>doesn't translate into AppleTV "liking" you to have iTunes - a better >>way to word it is *you* like to have iTunes installed somewhere so you >>can stream content from a computer to your AppleTV. > > So why isn't it ON THE APPLETV BOX? Why does the AppleTV box need a > second machine actively running iTunes before it sees anything? Because it isn't a computer and doesn't support browsing file shares on a network. It uses different methods. It's about the design. > My PC doesn't. It can network on its own. My Macbook can network on > its own. Fuck, even my TV can do it. But not the AppleTv box. It > *NEEDS* and *MUST* *HAVE* an active iTunes program running on a > second machine before it can see the other networked devices. Wrong yet again. AppleTVs can see and stream content from iOS devices without iTunes installed. They can also stream content from the internet without iTunes. > I don't understand why you are so reluctant to see this as a flaw in > the AppleTV box. Because it's not a flaw. It's a design choice, and it works just fine for those who made an informed purchasing decision when they bought it. Apparently you think that the mere act of running iTunes is a burden for the rest of us. That's simply not the case. I have had iTunes running on my media server 24/7 for years now streaming content to my AppleTV and it never causes a single issue. Where's the flaw? >>> It only sees the *Macbook* if I activate iTunes. >> >>Yep, so? > > So why? It's a design flaw and a deliberate one. Nope, it's a design constraint. If you dislike it, get rid of your AppleTV. You shouldn't have purchased it to begin with, clearly. > I can read the NAS drive from my PC or my Macbook without iTunes. I > can read my NAS drive from my PC without my Macbook and from my > Macbook without my PC but the AppleTV box won't even acknowledge it > exists unless iTunes is running somewhere. That is *crippled*. Nope. It simply uses a different method to stream content. The fact that you apparently dislike it doesn't magically make it crippled. > And I don't understand why you are so reluctant to accept that ApplTv > is a broken product. Because it works just fine. You're full of it. > It is like the iWatch. Incomplete and not very functional on its own. More bullshit. Plenty of folks are finding the Apple Watch extremely useful, according to the many reviews I am reading at the moment. Do you even have an Apple Watch? Doubt it. More likely you are just talking out of your ass. Not surprised. > Yes, I do know it has Netflix, too, and that *DOES* work without > iTunes. So do many of its other features, including streaming content from iOS devices. > Buying and downloading other stuff does not. Whatever that is supposed to mean... >>> Okay, so maybe I'm not set up properly but what I have is what I >>> have. Maybe I'll fiddle when I get bored. Maybe someone wise and >>> kind will suggest a simple toggle I can click? >> >>You are doing it the right way. I'm not sure how you see this as a >>problem. > > Obviously because you won't see the AppleTV box as incomplete, > "broken" kit which it is. It works just fine here. Must be you. > It is supposed to be a networked, Internet ready device. It is both networked and internet ready. > I can't load programs or services onto it when I wish If you purchased it with the intent to load programs onto it, you made a poorly-informed purchasing decision. You don't get to turn around and act like that's someone else's fault. Get rid of it and buy something that does what you want, silly. > and I can't use it to see *my* network without iTunes running. No, it sees the network just fine. It just doesn't browse file shares on the network. > Nor, under any circumstances can I get it to run AVI movie files. > That is *broken*. Nope. Supported video formats are clearly stated in the specifications, and you should have known that before you purchased it. You need to take personal responsibility for your mistake. > It's a fun toy and I'm not whining about the restrictive nature of it > as I knew what I was buying before I bought it Apparently not if you expected it to play AVI. > but I don't understand your complete reluctance to see that as a file > distribution device my 1994 Win 3 box does a *far* better job. Hell, > my *stereo* is less restrictive. Also cheaper. Because I disagree with your assessment. I find the AppleTV very useful as a streaming device. And it's not a "file distribution device" as you like to claim. >>>>> The safest way of avoiding this "problem" is, obviously, not >>>>> having an AppleTV but I saw one for not much pounds so I bought >>>>> it. It's one more toy to amuse me. >>>> >>>>That's a very silly "solution". >>> >>> Yes, but it is *safe*. :) >> >>I don't see how it's any more "safe" than the better solution. : ) > > I did not say it was *more* only that it *is*. You're playing silly, boring word games. How is having an AppleTV not safe? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-26 19:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmjqe7o.73b.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #29642 |
In message <pp7qja5uv1i1m01juifbh527h6kllh53qu@4ax.com> John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: > On 26 Apr 2015 15:59:49 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>On 2015-04-26, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: >>> On 26 Apr 2015 14:00:45 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On 2015-04-26, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The only possible issue with iTunes is that AppleTV seems to like >>>>> your network having a copy somewhere >>>> >>>>No, AppleTV functions just fine without a copy of iTunes on the network. >>> >>> Mine doesn't. >> >>Of course it does. Apple doesn't force anyone to install iTunes on a >>computer. > No, they do it themselves before you buy it. >>If you have no need for iTunes, don't use it. Your AppleTV >>works just fine without it. > Only as a set-top box, a sort of restrictive "freeview" type device Not at all true. That is certainly something it can do, but it does much more than that. > not as a part of the network which is one of AppleTV's main selling > points. Who said that? > If you want network you need iTunes. > No iTunes, no network. OK. But that is a very small slice of what the AppleTV can do. And it's also not exactly true. I often use Plex on an iOS device to AirPlay content from my network to the Apple TV. No iTunes involved. > Unless there's something I've missed? Many things, yes. > Without iTunes and *with* AVI. That's not going to happen. Not now, not ever. AVI is a shit container and nearly no one uses it anymore anyway. > So why isn't the software *ON* *THE* *APPLETV* *BOX* *ITSELF*? Because that's not how it was designed, obviously. iTunes is already written and works in Windows or OS X, so there is no reason not to use it, at least from Apple's point of view. >> You can >>use iTunes to stream content from a computer to your AppleTV. This >>doesn't translate into AppleTV "liking" you to have iTunes - a better >>way to word it is *you* like to have iTunes installed somewhere so you >>can stream content from a computer to your AppleTV. > So why isn't it ON THE APPLETV BOX? Why should it be? > Why does the AppleTV box need a second machine actively running > iTunes before it sees anything? Why not? > My PC doesn't. So? The AppleTV is not a PC. It's also not a Mac. > It *NEEDS* and *MUST* *HAVE* an active > iTunes program running on a second machine before it can see the other > networked devices. Yes, you keep repeating that. So fucking what? > I don't understand why you are so reluctant to see this as a flaw in > the AppleTV box. The fact that the AppleTV lacks a feature you desire does *not* mean that lack is a flaw. > So why? It's a design flaw and a deliberate one. It is a deliberate design, that does not make it a flaw. > I can read the NAS drive from my PC or my Macbook without iTunes. That's nice. An irrelevant. > That is *crippled*. Not at all. > And I don't understand why you are so reluctant to accept that ApplTv > is a broken product. Because it is not. > It is like the iWatch. Incomplete and not very > functional on its own. Ah, you're an idiot. I see. > Yes, I do know it has Netflix, too, and that *DOES* work without > iTunes. > Buying and downloading other stuff does not. Yes it does. The AppleTV will play anything that was purchased from the iTunes store without you having a computer at all. > Obviously because you won't see the AppleTV box as incomplete, > "broken" kit which it is. You are still wrong, regardless of how many times you repeat this. > It is supposed to be a networked, Internet ready device. I can't load > programs or services onto it when I wish and I can't use it to see > *my* network without iTunes running. OH NOES! IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD! So fucking what? RUn iTunes. Or load content from netflix, the iTunes store, HBO, or the other 40 or 50 providers currently on the Apple TV. Or use airplay to send anything from your iOS devices or Macs to the AppleTV. > Nor, under any circumstances can I get it to run AVI movie files. Yep. AVI's went out about 10-15 years ago. > That is *broken*. Nope. -- Im finding's you'r mis'use of apostrophe's disturbing.
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| From | Jesper Kaas <jesperk@neitakk.online.no> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-24 18:26 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac |
| Message-ID | <i3rkja933ovp8rr10pfk2phcfc4uj7vv35@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #29428 |
On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 04:08:55 -0500, Crosby Livingston <crosbylivingston44584@verizon.net> wrote: >Interesting article for the best distros to switch to if you're on >Windows & Mac, especially if you're still on WinXP like I am. > >http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-linux-distro-first-time-switchers-windows-mac/ Is it easy to install Linux to a laptop? I am thinking if drivers for touchpad, screen and whatever is special for a laptop could be a problem. I have an old Asus Aspire 7720 Vith Vista in the attic. It might be an idea to instll Linux Zorin on it, and use it for simple things. The boot time hopefully wil be much shorter than with an old Vista install. -- Jesper Kaas - jesperk@neindanke.online.no
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-24 12:39 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac |
| Message-ID | <553a71da$0$39572$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #29439 |
In article <i3rkja933ovp8rr10pfk2phcfc4uj7vv35@4ax.com>, Jesper Kaas <jesperk@neitakk.online.no> wrote: > Is it easy to install Linux to a laptop? I am thinking if drivers for > touchpad, screen and whatever is special for a laptop could be a > problem. > I have an old Asus Aspire 7720 Vith Vista in the attic. It might be > an idea to instll Linux Zorin on it, and use it for simple things. > The boot time hopefully wil be much shorter than with an old Vista > install. I installed Arch Linux on an old Dell D630. Very smooth. Integrated graphics, sound card, wireless, firewire -- oll korrect. I'd never heard of Zorin - looks interesting. You shouldn't have any problems . Arch comes with nothing. You have to know what you want. -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
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| From | Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-24 17:59 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac |
| Message-ID | <20150424134434@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #29439 |
On 2015-04-24, Jesper Kaas <jesperk@neitakk.online.no> wrote: > Is it easy to install Linux to a laptop? I am thinking if drivers for > touchpad, screen and whatever is special for a laptop could be a > problem. I run Linux on all my laptops and have not had many problems. On some all the function keys do not work without some customization. Most Intel video chipsets are well supported. For Nvidia and ATI there has been progress made in the open-source drivers but you may get best results installing the manufacturer's binary driver. (Ubuntu at least will offer these if available.) I haven't run into problems with basic touchpad operation, but multi-touch gestures might not work on some. > I have an old Asus Aspire 7720 Vith Vista in the attic. It might be > an idea to instll Linux Zorin on it, and use it for simple things. > The boot time hopefully wil be much shorter than with an old Vista > install. Your chances of success are better with an older laptop since it is likely that hardware support has been in place for a while. Things get dicier if you're on the bleeding edge. Easiest thing to do is try something like Linux Mint or Xubuntu (am not familiar with Zorin) on a CD or flash drive and see how it works with your hardware. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Change "invalid" to "com" for email. Google Groups killfiled.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| From | mick <no.spam@junk.mail> |
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| Date | 2015-04-24 20:57 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac |
| Message-ID | <mn.c4e97df496a40ac2.90097@junk.mail> |
| In reply to | #29439 |
On 24/04/2015 17:26:27, Jesper Kaas wrote: > On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 04:08:55 -0500, Crosby Livingston > <crosbylivingston44584@verizon.net> wrote: > >> Interesting article for the best distros to switch to if you're on >> Windows & Mac, especially if you're still on WinXP like I am. >> >> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-linux-distro-first-time-switchers-windows-mac/ > > Is it easy to install Linux to a laptop? I am thinking if drivers for > touchpad, screen and whatever is special for a laptop could be a > problem. > I have an old Asus Aspire 7720 Vith Vista in the attic. It might be > an idea to instll Linux Zorin on it, and use it for simple things. > The boot time hopefully wil be much shorter than with an old Vista > install. You don't have to install Linux to try it. Once you have created the DVD with the Linux iso file you can run it from the DVD. I recently tried these three Linux distributions - in the order of my preference - on an old year 2003 HP Pavilion ex-windows xp laptop with 2MB of memeory: Linux Mint 17.1 Rebecca with Cinnamon desktop http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php Zorin 9 Core http://zorin-os.com/free.html Chalet OS https://sites.google.com/site/chaletoslinux/home -- mick
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| From | Uncle Joe <unclejoe@hush.ai> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-25 01:46 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac |
| Message-ID | <mherl7$d8o$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #29439 |
Jesper Kaas <jesperk@neitakk.online.no> wrote in i3rkja933ovp8rr10pfk2phcfc4uj7vv35@4ax.com: > Is it easy to install Linux to a laptop? It's trivial to install Ubuntu (if you like Unity) or Kubuntu (if you want the power of KDE) on most laptops that I've installed it on. Long ago, we had to mess with drivers but no longer (except Nvidia, but that's a pain on Windows also). I've installed maybe a half dozen only, but each one was a breeze. I find the software selection phenomenal. There must be thousands upon thousands of apps freely available. You'd be very hard pressed to find an app that you have to pay for, since almost everything you need to do already has a app to do that. What do you need to do on the laptop?
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| From | John <Man@the.keyboard> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-04-26 14:35 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac |
| Message-ID | <6uppjahc5agboo806bikajtip82rjosdvd@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #29439 |
On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 18:26:27 +0200, Jesper Kaas
<jesperk@neitakk.online.no> wrote:
>On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 04:08:55 -0500, Crosby Livingston
><crosbylivingston44584@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Interesting article for the best distros to switch to if you're on
>>Windows & Mac, especially if you're still on WinXP like I am.
>>
>>http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-linux-distro-first-time-switchers-windows-mac/
>
>Is it easy to install Linux to a laptop?
In 2007, maybe not. Today it's a doddle. You can even run *Nixxy OSes
from CD or USB-stick without ever loading them onto your machine. This
allows you to test them first.
Look for a live CD version and try it.
Any decent Linux magazine in your local newsagents' should have a
disk full of distros to try and instructions on how.
It really *is* easy today.
> I am thinking if drivers for
>touchpad, screen and whatever is special for a laptop could be a
>problem.
Not any more. Even Wifi-cards generally work without much if any
fiddling.
> I have an old Asus Aspire 7720 Vith Vista in the attic. It might be
>an idea to instll Linux Zorin on it, and use it for simple things.
Try Mint or Trial or these guys:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-linux-distributions/
Or the computer magazines. They are very helpful. They even have
tips-and-tricks columns and help pages. And the geeks in the *Nixxy
newsgroups are *very* helpful.
>The boot time hopefully wil be much shorter than with an old Vista
>install.
This one says it loads in seconds:
https://elementary.io/
And it looks lovely.
J.
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