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  docx files on a Mac Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-21 15:56 +0000
    Re: docx files on a Mac Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-21 09:28 -0700
      Re: docx files on a Mac Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-22 21:04 +0000
        Re: docx files on a Mac ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2014-01-22 22:38 +0100
        Re: docx files on a Mac Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2014-01-26 19:02 -0600
          Re: docx files on a Mac erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 19:29 -0600
          Re: docx files on a Mac John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-27 07:57 -0800
            Re: docx files on a Mac android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-05 19:53 +0100
        Re: docx files on a Mac android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-05 19:53 +0100
    Re: docx files on a Mac Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-01-21 17:05 +0000
    Re: docx files on a Mac gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-21 09:38 -0800
      Re: docx files on a Mac gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2014-01-21 09:39 -0800
        Re: docx files on a Mac Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-22 21:04 +0000
    Re: docx files on a Mac Kit <kityzyme@yahoo.com> - 2014-01-22 11:59 +0000
      Re: docx files on a Mac PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> - 2014-01-22 17:44 -0500
        Re: docx files on a Mac Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-23 14:50 +0000
          Re: docx files on a Mac Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-01-23 17:16 +0000
            Re: docx files on a Mac Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-24 14:01 +0000
              Re: docx files on a Mac Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2014-01-24 16:49 +0000
      Re: docx files on a Mac Richard H <Richard.H@invalid.invalid> - 2014-02-05 17:33 +0000
    Re: docx files on a Mac John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2014-01-24 04:05 +0000
      Re: docx files on a Mac Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-24 14:31 +0000

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#20596 — docx files on a Mac

How do you open one of these on a Mac without destroying the formatting?  I
can open it with Open Office, Bean, and if I remember correctly, even
Pages, but the format is destroyed.

The original is a paper with endnotes I'm supposed to submit as Word. I can
save as Word, though I have to mail it as a .pdf, but they want me to make
a couple corrections in the docx they sent me and the side note stuff ends
up in places where it haa no discernible connection to the text. Cryptic
notes don't help. 

Even if I could make sense of it and make the corrections, the endnotes
would still be turned into page notes, which is the wrong format.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#20599

In article <lbm5ar$b71$2@dont-email.me>, Erilar
<drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> How do you open one of these on a Mac without destroying the formatting? 

Buy Word for the Mac; I think you would have to buy the home/student
edition of Office for the Mac; it retails for $140, but you can get it
for less; Amazon sells it for $114.  Best Buy's price is $120.

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#20639

Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <lbm5ar$b71$2@dont-email.me>, Erilar
> <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> 
>> How do you open one of these on a Mac without destroying the formatting? 
> 
> Buy Word for the Mac; I think you would have to buy the home/student
> edition of Office for the Mac; it retails for $140, but you can get it
> for less; Amazon sells it for $114.  Best Buy's price is $120.

For one paper?  I'll pass, thanks.
-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#20640

Erilar wrote:
> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>> In article <lbm5ar$b71$2@dont-email.me>, Erilar
>> <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>>
>>> How do you open one of these on a Mac without destroying the formatting?
>>
>> Buy Word for the Mac; I think you would have to buy the home/student
>> edition of Office for the Mac; it retails for $140, but you can get it
>> for less; Amazon sells it for $114.  Best Buy's price is $120.
>
> For one paper?  I'll pass, thanks.

Download the demo version of the latest 'NisusWriter Pro'. - It is 
full-working for 15 days. - NWP may solve the problems, but it /may/ 
also give some font problems if the original .docx file is written in 
Word 2012 for Windows - especially if the fonts used in the orig. 
document are 'MS Serif' and/or 'MS San Serif'. - But since the demo is 
free for two weeks, it could be worth trying.

<http://nisus.com/pro/>

Cheers, Erik Richard
>

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk>
NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com
Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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#20733

In article <lbpbor$j92$2@dont-email.me>,
 Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> > In article <lbm5ar$b71$2@dont-email.me>, Erilar
> > <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> > 
> >> How do you open one of these on a Mac without destroying the formatting? 
> > 
> > Buy Word for the Mac; I think you would have to buy the home/student
> > edition of Office for the Mac; it retails for $140, but you can get it
> > for less; Amazon sells it for $114.  Best Buy's price is $120.
> 
> For one paper?  I'll pass, thanks.

The older MS Office 2008 will run on all Mac OS X up through Mavericks, 
and you can likely find a pretty reasonably priced new copy on ebay for 
$40-50. (Or one that has unused serial numbers with it)

For PC compatibility you need it. Period. 
If you plan to write more, recommend just bite the bullet and buy a 
copy.
-- 
Good judgment results from experience, and experience results from bad judgment.

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#20735

In article 
<replytome-FEAC09.19024426012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> wrote:

> In article <lbpbor$j92$2@dont-email.me>,
>  Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> 
> > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> > > In article <lbm5ar$b71$2@dont-email.me>, Erilar
> > > <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> > > 
> > >> How do you open one of these on a Mac without destroying the formatting? 
> > > 
> > > Buy Word for the Mac; I think you would have to buy the home/student
> > > edition of Office for the Mac; it retails for $140, but you can get it
> > > for less; Amazon sells it for $114.  Best Buy's price is $120.
> > 
> > For one paper?  I'll pass, thanks.
> 
> The older MS Office 2008 will run on all Mac OS X up through Mavericks, 
> and you can likely find a pretty reasonably priced new copy on ebay for 
> $40-50. (Or one that has unused serial numbers with it)
> 
> For PC compatibility you need it. Period. 
> If you plan to write more, recommend just bite the bullet and buy a 
> copy.

New discovery, I think.  Reading iPad Air info: it said something about 
opening docx files. . .

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist

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#20752

On 1/26/14   PDT, 5:02 PM, Suze wrote:
> In article <lbpbor$j92$2@dont-email.me>,
>   Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>
>> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>> In article <lbm5ar$b71$2@dont-email.me>, Erilar
>>> <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How do you open one of these on a Mac without destroying the formatting?
>>>
>>> Buy Word for the Mac; I think you would have to buy the home/student
>>> edition of Office for the Mac; it retails for $140, but you can get it
>>> for less; Amazon sells it for $114.  Best Buy's price is $120.
>>
>> For one paper?  I'll pass, thanks.
>
> The older MS Office 2008 will run on all Mac OS X up through Mavericks,
> and you can likely find a pretty reasonably priced new copy on ebay for
> $40-50. (Or one that has unused serial numbers with it)
>
> For PC compatibility you need it. Period.
> If you plan to write more, recommend just bite the bullet and buy a
> copy.
>
Bloody Steve Ballmer. Dork.

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#20926

On  2014-01-27 16:57, John McWilliams wrote:
> On 1/26/14 PDT, 5:02 PM, Suze wrote:
>> In article <lbpbor$j92$2@dont-email.me>,
>> Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>>> In article <lbm5ar$b71$2@dont-email.me>, Erilar
>>>> <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How do you open one of these on a Mac without destroying the
>>>>> formatting?
>>>>
>>>> Buy Word for the Mac; I think you would have to buy the home/student
>>>> edition of Office for the Mac; it retails for $140, but you can get it
>>>> for less; Amazon sells it for $114. Best Buy's price is $120.
>>>
>>> For one paper? I'll pass, thanks.
>>
>> The older MS Office 2008 will run on all Mac OS X up through Mavericks,
>> and you can likely find a pretty reasonably priced new copy on ebay for
>> $40-50. (Or one that has unused serial numbers with it)
>>
>> For PC compatibility you need it. Period.
>> If you plan to write more, recommend just bite the bullet and buy a
>> copy.
>>
> Bloody Steve Ballmer. Dork.

I think that he got fired or something...

-- 
teleportation kills

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#20925

On  2014-01-22 22:04, Erilar wrote:
> Michelle Steiner<michelle@michelle.org>  wrote:
>> In article<lbm5ar$b71$2@dont-email.me>, Erilar
>> <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>  wrote:
>>
>>> How do you open one of these on a Mac without destroying the formatting?
>>
>> Buy Word for the Mac; I think you would have to buy the home/student
>> edition of Office for the Mac; it retails for $140, but you can get it
>> for less; Amazon sells it for $114.  Best Buy's price is $120.
>
> For one paper?  I'll pass, thanks.

HTH: http://tinyurl.com/m3b8rm3

-- 
teleportation kills

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#20602

In article <lbm5ar$b71$2@dont-email.me>,
Erilar  <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>How do you open one of these on a Mac without destroying the formatting?  

You use the program it was created with: Microsoft Word.

Other programs are pretty good at preserving formatting, but there
are always going to be some edge cases that don't work. Then you
need to use the original program.

You could try asking the person who sent you the file to resend it as 
a .doc file, but no guarantees that would work in this case either.


Patty

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#20603

On 2014-01-21 15:56:11 +0000, Erilar said:

> How do you open one of these on a Mac without destroying the formatting?  I
> can open it with Open Office, Bean, and if I remember correctly, even
> Pages, but the format is destroyed.
> 
> The original is a paper with endnotes I'm supposed to submit as Word. I can
> save as Word, though I have to mail it as a .pdf, but they want me to make
> a couple corrections in the docx they sent me and the side note stuff ends
> up in places where it haa no discernible connection to the text. Cryptic
> notes don't help.
> 
> Even if I could make sense of it and make the corrections, the endnotes
> would still be turned into page notes, which is the wrong format.

Give them your corrections in a secondary file:

	Replacement text for 3rd/4th paragraphs, ...
	Change all occurences of X to Y...
	Update the residents of building X to read ...

Etc.

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#20604

On 2014-01-21 17:38:26 +0000, gtr said:

> On 2014-01-21 15:56:11 +0000, Erilar said:
> 
>> How do you open one of these on a Mac without destroying the formatting?  I
>> can open it with Open Office, Bean, and if I remember correctly, even
>> Pages, but the format is destroyed.
>> 
>> The original is a paper with endnotes I'm supposed to submit as Word. I can
>> save as Word, though I have to mail it as a .pdf, but they want me to make
>> a couple corrections in the docx they sent me and the side note stuff ends
>> up in places where it haa no discernible connection to the text. Cryptic
>> notes don't help.
>> 
>> Even if I could make sense of it and make the corrections, the endnotes
>> would still be turned into page notes, which is the wrong format.
> 
> Give them your corrections in a secondary file:
> 
> 	Replacement text for 3rd/4th paragraphs, ...
> 	Change all occurences of X to Y...
> 	Update the residents of building X to read ...
> 
> Etc.

Oops.  I meant to add that you can give them the entire text of the 
thing, and have them paste it in, retaining the foot notes and whatever 
the hell formatting they like.

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#20638

gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> On 2014-01-21 17:38:26 +0000, gtr said:
> 
>> On 2014-01-21 15:56:11 +0000, Erilar said:
>>>> How do you open one of these on a Mac without destroying the formatting?  I
>>> can open it with Open Office, Bean, and if I remember correctly, even
>>> Pages, but the format is destroyed.
>>>>> The original is a paper with endnotes I'm supposed to submit as Word. I can
>>> save as Word, though I have to mail it as a .pdf, but they want me to make
>>> a couple corrections in the docx they sent me and the side note stuff ends
>>> up in places where it haa no discernible connection to the text. Cryptic
>>> notes don't help.
>>>>> Even if I could make sense of it and make the corrections, the endnotes
>>> would still be turned into page notes, which is the wrong format.
>>> Give them your corrections in a secondary file:
>>> 	Replacement text for 3rd/4th paragraphs, ...
>> 	Change all occurences of X to Y...
>> 	Update the residents of building X to read ...
>>> Etc.
> 
> Oops.  I meant to add that you can give them the entire text of the
> thing, and have them paste it in, retaining the foot notes and whatever
> the hell formatting they like.

Thanks for the suggestions, but so far I'm being told that doesn't work. I
DID  send the 3 minor corrections I COULD find, even though I can't make
head nor tail of one they sent, but that's apparently not good enough.   It
was a LOT of work for something I was told was going to be published that
now apparently isn't. Never again.  I'm going back to researching just for
fun.
-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#20620

In article <lbm5ar$b71$2@dont-email.me>, Erilar
<drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

> How do you open one of these on a Mac without destroying the formatting?  I
> can open it with Open Office, Bean, and if I remember correctly, even
> Pages, but the format is destroyed.
> 
> The original is a paper with endnotes I'm supposed to submit as Word. I can
> save as Word, though I have to mail it as a .pdf, but they want me to make
> a couple corrections in the docx they sent me and the side note stuff ends
> up in places where it haa no discernible connection to the text. Cryptic
> notes don't help. 
> 
> Even if I could make sense of it and make the corrections, the endnotes
> would still be turned into page notes, which is the wrong format.

If 'they' are paying you for the service, buy MS Word and include that
in your charges. If 'they' are not paying you, tell them to do a 'save
as' .doc file before sending it to you.

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#20642

Kit wrote:
> In article <lbm5ar$b71$2@dont-email.me>, Erilar
> <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>
>> How do you open one of these on a Mac without destroying the formatting?  I
>> can open it with Open Office, Bean, and if I remember correctly, even
>> Pages, but the format is destroyed.
>>
>> The original is a paper with endnotes I'm supposed to submit as Word. I can
>> save as Word, though I have to mail it as a .pdf, but they want me to make
>> a couple corrections in the docx they sent me and the side note stuff ends
>> up in places where it haa no discernible connection to the text. Cryptic
>> notes don't help.
>>
>> Even if I could make sense of it and make the corrections, the endnotes
>> would still be turned into page notes, which is the wrong format.
>
> If 'they' are paying you for the service, buy MS Word and include that
> in your charges. If 'they' are not paying you, tell them to do a 'save
> as' .doc file before sending it to you.
>
Actually the the Formatting, Paragraph/line end (Linefeeds) Tabs, and so 
on are usually preserved in application like OpenOffice (and its 
variants), Mellel, Nisus Writer Pro.

Usually though they save in their proprietary format. Though the Open 
Office (variants), Mellel, Nisus can export to word format.

What's destroyed is any VBA, or Macros  Text Editors such as BBEdit, 
BBEdit Lite, TextWrangler, Do destroy any formatting except Indents and 
Line feed/Paragraph end

-- 
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.      "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net    mailto:pjonescet@comcast.net

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#20650

PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> wrote:
> Kit wrote:
>> In article <lbm5ar$b71$2@dont-email.me>, Erilar
>> <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> How do you open one of these on a Mac without destroying the formatting?  I
>>> can open it with Open Office, Bean, and if I remember correctly, even
>>> Pages, but the format is destroyed.
>>> 
>>> The original is a paper with endnotes I'm supposed to submit as Word. I can
>>> save as Word, though I have to mail it as a .pdf, but they want me to make
>>> a couple corrections in the docx they sent me and the side note stuff ends
>>> up in places where it haa no discernible connection to the text. Cryptic
>>> notes don't help.
>>> 
>>> Even if I could make sense of it and make the corrections, the endnotes
>>> would still be turned into page notes, which is the wrong format.
>> 
>> If 'they' are paying you for the service, buy MS Word and include that
>> in your charges. If 'they' are not paying you, tell them to do a 'save
>> as' .doc file before sending it to you.
>> 
> Actually the the Formatting, Paragraph/line end (Linefeeds) Tabs, and so
> on are usually preserved in application like OpenOffice (and its
> variants), Mellel, Nisus Writer Pro.
> 
> Usually though they save in their proprietary format. Though the Open
> Office (variants), Mellel, Nisus can export to word format.
> 
> What's destroyed is any VBA, or Macros  Text Editors such as BBEdit,
> BBEdit Lite, TextWrangler, Do destroy any formatting except Indents and
> Line feed/Paragraph end

OO also moves footnotes from end to page bottom, which misplaces requested
edits in the side bar. This also raises the question of what happens to
text and footnotes if I try to send it back.  I think I'd have to make
changes in the original Pages document so I could Save As Word in a .pdf to
send it back. And they aren't happy with .pdf to begin with.  

If any other Mac user is ever urged to turn an oral presentation to a
scholarly audience into an academic paper for publication, find out in
advance whether you'll be allowed to submit it in a form you can access!

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#20651

In article <lbra76$cua$2@dont-email.me>,
Erilar  <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:

[whole bunch of extraneous quotage snipped]


>OO also moves footnotes from end to page bottom, which misplaces requested
>edits in the side bar. This also raises the question of what happens to
>text and footnotes if I try to send it back.  I think I'd have to make
>changes in the original Pages document so I could Save As Word in a .pdf to
>send it back. And they aren't happy with .pdf to begin with.  

A couple of us suggested asking your colleague/client/whoever to
save the file as .doc and resend it to you. Have you tried that?


Patty

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#20663

Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
> In article <lbra76$cua$2@dont-email.me>,
> Erilar  <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> 
> [whole bunch of extraneous quotage snipped]
> 
> 
>> OO also moves footnotes from end to page bottom, which misplaces requested
>> edits in the side bar. This also raises the question of what happens to
>> text and footnotes if I try to send it back.  I think I'd have to make
>> changes in the original Pages document so I could Save As Word in a .pdf to
>> send it back. And they aren't happy with .pdf to begin with.  
> 
> A couple of us suggested asking your colleague/client/whoever to
> save the file as .doc and resend it to you. Have you tried that?
> 
> 
> Patty

Oh, that was the process in earlier stages, but then the suggested changes
were in accompanying e-mail.  They changed the process after 99% of the
work had been done

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#20665

In article <lbtrnn$st9$1@dont-email.me>,
Erilar  <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:

[whole bunch of extraneous quotage snipped]

[again]


>> A couple of us suggested asking your colleague/client/whoever to
>> save the file as .doc and resend it to you. Have you tried that?
>
>Oh, that was the process in earlier stages, but then the suggested changes
>were in accompanying e-mail.  They changed the process after 99% of the
>work had been done

I'm not sure what you mean. It doesn't matter if they have made
changes that were suggested in email rather than included in the
Word document. The bottom line is that they have a .docx file and
they could still save it as a .doc file and send it to you. Are
they willing to do that or not?

Alternatively, do you not know anyone who has a recent version of
MS Word who could convert the file for you? 

Unless the .docx file has elements that aren't supported in earlier
versions of Word (and from what you've said so far, it doesn't),
then you should be fine editing it in your older version and sending
it back to the publishers as a .doc file.



Patty

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#20920

In article <lbm5ar$b71$2@dont-email.me>, Erilar
<drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
 
> How do you open one of these on a Mac without destroying the formatting?  I
> can open it with Open Office, Bean, and if I remember correctly, even
> Pages, but the format is destroyed.
> 
> The original is a paper with endnotes I'm supposed to submit as Word. I can
> save as Word, though I have to mail it as a .pdf, but they want me to make
> a couple corrections in the docx they sent me and the side note stuff ends
> up in places where it haa no discernible connection to the text. Cryptic
> notes don't help.
> 
> Even if I could make sense of it and make the corrections, the endnotes
> would still be turned into page notes, which is the wrong format.

Zamzar's website can do lots of types of file conversions, including .docx
to .doc

Would that be any use?

The URL is: <http://www.zamzar.com/>
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