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  VirtualBox--I wish.... Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-24 13:38 -0500
    Re: VirtualBox--I wish.... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-11-24 15:41 -0500
      Re: VirtualBox--I wish.... Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-24 17:40 -0500
        Re: VirtualBox--I wish.... Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2013-11-25 04:46 -0800
    Re: VirtualBox--I wish.... ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2013-11-24 23:20 +0100
      Re: VirtualBox--I wish.... Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-24 17:38 -0500
        Re: VirtualBox--I wish.... ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2013-11-25 00:59 +0100
        Re: VirtualBox--I wish.... Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-25 16:59 +0100
          Re: VirtualBox--I wish.... Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-25 20:18 -0500
    Re: VirtualBox--I wish.... Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-24 17:35 -0500
      Re: VirtualBox--I wish.... Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-25 16:06 +0100
        Re: VirtualBox--I wish.... Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-25 19:04 +0100
        Re: VirtualBox--I wish.... dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-11-26 07:09 +1100
        Re: VirtualBox--I wish.... Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-25 20:10 -0500
          Re: VirtualBox--I wish.... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-11-26 08:09 +0000
            Re: VirtualBox--I wish.... Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-12-10 01:01 -0500
        Re: VirtualBox--I wish.... Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-12-10 00:55 -0500

#19572 — VirtualBox--I wish....

I wish I could persuade VirtualBox to stop telling me every ten seconds 
that I have turned on this setting or that.

I wish I could persuade VirtualBox to stop telling me every ten seconds 
that the bit depth on the monitor is zero.

I wish I could persuade VirtualBox to stop reversing my window size 
changes every thirty seconds.  At least if it would leave the window 
frame where I put it, those idiotic useless warnings wouldn't be 
covering up the actual VM screen.

-- 
Wes Groleau

   Why does everyone call it a “fanny pack" ?
   When was the last time you saw one on a fanny?

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#19575

On 2013.11.24, 13:38 , Wes Groleau wrote:
> I wish I could persuade VirtualBox

The Cheese for your whine is at
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Community


-- 
"The radio was once expected to promote international understanding and 
co-operation;
it has turned out to be a means of insulating one nation from another."
                                                  -George Orwell, 1945

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#19583

On 11-24-2013, 15:41, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2013.11.24, 13:38 , Wes Groleau wrote:
>> I wish I could persuade VirtualBox
>
> The Cheese for your whine is at
> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Community

Thanks.  I probably would have gone looking for that,
since I found nothing on Usenet.


-- 
Wes Groleau

   “But, Professor! I didn't plagiarize! I paid someone to
    write the essay for me, and that person plagiarized!"
               — from http://rateyourstudents.blogspot.com

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#19588

On 11/24/2013 2:40 PM PT, Wes Groleau typed:

>>> I wish I could persuade VirtualBox
>>
>> The Cheese for your whine is at
>> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Community
>
> Thanks.  I probably would have gone looking for that,
> since I found nothing on Usenet.

Not everything on usenet/newsgroups especially when it is dying/non 
popular like it used to be. :(
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#19578

Wes Groleau wrote:
> I wish I could persuade VirtualBox to stop telling me every ten seconds
> that I have turned on this setting or that.
>
> I wish I could persuade VirtualBox to stop telling me every ten seconds
> that the bit depth on the monitor is zero.
>
> I wish I could persuade VirtualBox to stop reversing my window size
> changes every thirty seconds.  At least if it would leave the window
> frame where I put it, those idiotic useless warnings wouldn't be
> covering up the actual VM screen.

You can... Switch to VMWare Fusion or Parallels Desktop.:-)

Cheers, Erik Richard

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk>
NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com
Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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#19582

On 11-24-2013, 17:20, ErikRS wrote:
> You can... Switch to VMWare Fusion or Parallels Desktop.:-)

Had the fusion free trial.  It has its own quirks.  At least it was more 
stable than the VMWare workstation I had to use on the job.

Might try Parallels if they have a trial offer.  But I never run Windows 
at home anyway--I installed it on someone else's new Mac
to ease their transition.

-- 
Wes Groleau

   Why does everyone call it a “fanny pack" ?
   When was the last time you saw one on a fanny?

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#19586

Wes Groleau wrote:
> On 11-24-2013, 17:20, ErikRS wrote:
>> You can... Switch to VMWare Fusion or Parallels Desktop.:-)
>
> Had the fusion free trial.  It has its own quirks.  At least it was more
> stable than the VMWare workstation I had to use on the job.
>
> Might try Parallels if they have a trial offer.  But I never run Windows
> at home anyway--I installed it on someone else's new Mac
> to ease their transition.

There is a trial here:
<http://www.parallels.com/downloads/desktop/>

I use Parallels Desktop on my MacPro and it's working great. Especially 
one feature suites me very well. PD+Win will recognize *ANY* external 
Firewire and/or USB disk as 'shared disks' which means that such disks 
are recognized as network disks and you normally don't need to add them 
to the Parallels disk manager. - But if they don't show up, it's just to 
add the disks in the manager with their name, and afterwards it's easy 
to enable/disable as you like to.

Also this kind of handling the external Mac disks do allow you to both 
READ and WRITE to/from these disks without having to think of any 
differences in the disk structure. - And when/if you're using MSWord 
2010 Windows, StarOffice Windows, OpenOffice Windows or even WinNotepad 
you can just make a 'save as' directly to a Mac formatted disk and read 
the file from such a Mac formatted disk again if needed!

I use MSO2008 Mac, MSO2003 on my Windows, OpenOffice 4 on both Windows 
and Mac as well as AppleWoirks 6.2.x [Yes, I have AWKS Win 6.2] on both 
Windows and Mac. I've setup each pair as identically as possible, so any 
flows are minimized when using files on each paltform

And hereto... An antivirus app is a must-have on Windows and if you 
chose Avast! Home Free it will automatically include ANY 'shared disks' 
and bootabnle Mac disks and protect the whole network against vira.

Cheers, Erik Richard

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-daneRE@MOVEstofanet.dk>
NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com
Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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#19590

Wes Groleau wrote:

> On 11-24-2013, 17:20, ErikRS wrote:
>> You can... Switch to VMWare Fusion or Parallels Desktop.:-)
>
> Had the fusion free trial.  It has its own quirks.  At least it was more 
> stable than the VMWare workstation I had to use on the job.

VMware workstation on which host?  I found that Fusion has far fewer
features than the trail copy of Workstation I tried a couple of years
ago on Linux and Windows (though the muh lower price of Fusion certainly
reflects that).

> Might try Parallels if they have a trial offer.  But I never run Windows 
> at home anyway--I installed it on someone else's new Mac
> to ease their transition.

Parallels' aggressive marketing drove me away from the product.

Being prompted to buy straight away every time I fired up a VM swiftly
got irritating, especially when my mailbox was getting stuffed with cut
price offers at the same time.  While they do promptly honour
cancellations of that email it did get tiresome. If you do go for a
trial, give them a throwaway address and if you find that 2 weeks for
the trial isn't enough, you'll need another email address anyway for
another trial.

One thing I found about Parallels is that it puts stuff all over the
place; even after deleting it from the system I still kept finding
references to it.  It also wanted to fire stuff up in Windows all the
time: e.g. given LibreOffice on both OS X and in Windows, it would pick
the Windows version by default.

I did find a web site which details everything you need to do to
eradicate it from your system (and reset a trial copy):

<http://hammadk.com/reset-trial-for-parallels-8-for-mac/>

-- 
Paul Sture

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#19601

On 11-25-2013, 10:59, Paul Sture wrote:
> VMware workstation on which host?  I found that Fusion has far fewer
> features than the trail copy of Workstation I tried a couple of years
> ago on Linux and Windows (though the muh lower price of Fusion certainly
> reflects that).

VMWare workstation 6.x.3, which was the latest available at the last 
time I used it.  Each member of the web team had a VM nearly identical 
to the public Windows Server with IIS.  (No flames about Apache--I only 
worked there.)  More than once a month, I had to rebuild the whole VM, 
not because of your typical Microsoft idiocies, but because VMWare kept 
messing up its vdk structure.

> Parallels' aggressive marketing drove me away from the product.

Your description of that marketing persuaded me to not do business with 
them.


-- 
Wes Groleau

Expert, n.:
         Someone who comes from out of town and shows slides.

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#19581

On 11-24-2013, 13:38, Wes Groleau wrote:
> I wish I could persuade VirtualBox to stop telling me every ten seconds
> that I have turned on this setting or that.
> I wish I could persuade VirtualBox to stop telling me every ten seconds
> that the bit depth on the monitor is zero.

Click on either message and it expands for more info--including a "don't 
tell me again" checkbox.  Which I was sure I had already checked, but ...

> I wish I could persuade VirtualBox to stop reversing my window size
> changes every thirty seconds.  At least if it would leave the window
> frame where I put it, those idiotic useless warnings wouldn't be
> covering up the actual VM screen.

It sets Window size to the VM screen size.  And it defaults the VM 
screen to 600x800.  On top of that, it tries to scale those pixels
to be much smaller than the Mac's actual resolution.

But it's finally running.  No network connection yet, but whatever.


-- 
Wes Groleau

   Why does everyone call it a “fanny pack" ?
   When was the last time you saw one on a fanny?

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#19589

Wes Groleau wrote:

> On 11-24-2013, 13:38, Wes Groleau wrote:
>> I wish I could persuade VirtualBox to stop telling me every ten seconds
>> that I have turned on this setting or that.
>> I wish I could persuade VirtualBox to stop telling me every ten seconds
>> that the bit depth on the monitor is zero.
>
> Click on either message and it expands for more info--including a "don't 
> tell me again" checkbox.  Which I was sure I had already checked, but ...

Sorry, I could have told you that if I'd got to your post sooner.

I've used VirtualBox a lot, although mainly on Windows then Linux hosts,
and clicking on "Don't tell me again" becomes second nature with
practice.

The VirtualBox management GUI isn't as good on OS X as on Linux or
Windows, but it is far far better than when they first made the OS X
version available; I was seriously considering learning how to do it
all from the command line in earlier versions.

>> I wish I could persuade VirtualBox to stop reversing my window size
>> changes every thirty seconds.  At least if it would leave the window
>> frame where I put it, those idiotic useless warnings wouldn't be
>> covering up the actual VM screen.
>
> It sets Window size to the VM screen size.  And it defaults the VM 
> screen to 600x800.  On top of that, it tries to scale those pixels
> to be much smaller than the Mac's actual resolution.

FWIW I've had similar problems with VMware Fusion.

Have you installed the Guest Additions on the client?  This is the first
job you need to do after an installation as it gives you networking,
copy and paste between client and host (for some strange reason copy and
paste are disabled by default in the settings for the OS X version), and
screen resizing.

> But it's finally running.  No network connection yet, but whatever.

I initially found that Networking -> Bridged Adaptor was the way to go
for my needs, but Mavericks broke that.  I have been using NAT without
problems since that upgrade.

-- 
Paul Sture

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#19592

Paul Sture wrote:

> Have you installed the Guest Additions on the client?  This is the first
> job you need to do after an installation as it gives you networking,
> copy and paste between client and host (for some strange reason copy and
> paste are disabled by default in the settings for the OS X version), and
> screen resizing.

I forgot to say how to install Guest Additions.

While running the VM you want to add Guest Additions to, you select the
menu item Devices (this isn't in the menu if no VMs are running) and
then Install Guest Additions.  You may need to wait a while, but a CD
containing the GA software will appear and you can navigate to it.

For Windows Guests, pick the 32 or 64 bit .exe, double click on it to
execute and follow the dialogue.

-- 
Paul Sture

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#19593

In article <mk5cma-dfp.ln1@news.chingola.ch>,
 Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:

> Have you installed the Guest Additions on the client?  This is the first
> job you need to do after an installation as it gives you networking,
> copy and paste between client and host (for some strange reason copy and
> paste are disabled by default in the settings for the OS X version), and
> screen resizing.

Absolutely correct, and essential.

-- 
dorayme

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#19600

On 11-25-2013, 10:06, Paul Sture wrote:
> Have you installed the Guest Additions on the client?  This is the first
> job you need to do after an installation as it gives you networking,

Aarrgghh.  If you hadn't said that, I would still be cursing under my 
breath trying to get networking to function so I could activate the 
idiotic Windows that says the key on the C.O.A. is not a valid key.

So I have to do the guest additions _first_.  :-(

-- 
Wes Groleau

Expert, n.:
         Someone who comes from out of town and shows slides.

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#19606

In article <l70sf0$foh$1@dont-email.me>, Wes Groleau
<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:

> On 11-25-2013, 10:06, Paul Sture wrote:
> > Have you installed the Guest Additions on the client?  This is the first
> > job you need to do after an installation as it gives you networking,
> 
> Aarrgghh.  If you hadn't said that, I would still be cursing under my 
> breath trying to get networking to function so I could activate the 
> idiotic Windows that says the key on the C.O.A. is not a valid key.
> 
> So I have to do the guest additions _first_.  :-(

Yes, and then resizing the window resizes the virtual display. I've not
had any problems with VirtualBox (running one XP and one Win7) so I'm
somewhat bemused by this thread.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#19856

On 11-26-2013, 03:09, Tim Streater wrote:
> Yes, and then resizing the window resizes the virtual display. I've not
> had any problems with VirtualBox (running one XP and one Win7) so I'm
> somewhat bemused by this thread.

Maybe you've been running long enough to have forgotten the start-up 
problems.  Or maybe someone warned you about them in advance so that you 
didn't have them.

HERE is the first place I ever read that you can't activate Windows 
before installing the guest additions.  In VMWare, the guest additions 
were installed by a script that the guest O.S. would run (after VMWare 
made the location available to the guest).

So I thought I had to get Windows going first.

Also in VMWare, the display and mouse worked properly with or without 
the guest additions.

But, hey, I shouldn't be too picky about a free product.  :-)

-- 
Wes Groleau

   “But, Professor! I didn't plagiarize! I paid someone to
    write the essay for me, and that person plagiarized!"
               — from http://rateyourstudents.blogspot.com

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#19855

On 11-25-2013, 10:06, Paul Sture wrote:
> I've used VirtualBox a lot, although mainly on Windows then Linux hosts,
> and clicking on "Don't tell me again" becomes second nature with
> practice.

If it happens often enough to "become second nature," does that mean it 
IS showing you again, or that there are zillions of those messages?

I've only seen three.  And I saw them and dismissed them dozens of times 
before I accidentally missed the close box and clicked on the message. 
Which made the box open up enough to see that it HAD a never again checkbox,

-- 
Wes Groleau

   “But, Professor! I didn't plagiarize! I paid someone to
    write the essay for me, and that person plagiarized!"
               — from http://rateyourstudents.blogspot.com

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