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  Firefox: stop it zooming ? Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2014-06-20 17:23 +0100
    Re: Firefox: stop it zooming ? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-21 06:43 +1000
      Re: Firefox: stop it zooming ? Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2014-06-20 22:34 +0100
        Re: Firefox: stop it zooming ? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-21 10:14 +1000
          Re: Firefox: stop it zooming ? Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2014-06-21 15:39 +0100
          Re: Firefox: stop it zooming ? Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2014-07-10 22:04 +0100
            Re: Firefox: stop it zooming ? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-11 08:29 +1000
            Re: Firefox: stop it zooming ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-10 23:05 +0000
              Re: Firefox: stop it zooming ? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-11 09:29 +1000
                Re: Firefox: stop it zooming ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-11 00:45 +0000
                  Re: Firefox: stop it zooming ? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-11 16:02 +1000
                    Re: Firefox: stop it zooming ? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-11 13:46 +0000
              Re: Firefox: stop it zooming ? Howard.not@home.com (Howard) - 2014-07-11 00:53 +0100
    Re: Firefox: stop it zooming ? Steve <gratefuldead@xs4all.nl> - 2014-07-11 17:55 +0200

#23067 — Firefox: stop it zooming ?

Abandoned Safari for the umpteenth time this week. So tired of it's
google search sticking and video streaming issues.....

So ... to Firefox.

Whenever I open a new window it keeps opening it one step zoomed and I
keep having to rest it back to normal.

Is some setting switched on somewhere that I can turn off ?

Tks.

-- 
Howard

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#23068

In article <1lnjuwj.1g6t2pl727w3eN%Howard.not@home.com>,
 Howard.not@home.com (Howard) wrote:

>  Firefox.
> 
> Whenever I open a new window it keeps opening it one step zoomed and I
> keep having to rest it back to normal.
> 
> Is some setting switched on somewhere that I can turn off ?

Look at you Prefs and Content and set your preferred font size 
(consult the prefs in Safari if you liked the normal font size there)

-- 
dorayme

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#23069

dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> In article <1lnjuwj.1g6t2pl727w3eN%Howard.not@home.com>,
>  Howard.not@home.com (Howard) wrote:
> 
> >  Firefox.
> > 
> > Whenever I open a new window it keeps opening it one step zoomed and I
> > keep having to rest it back to normal.
> > 
> > Is some setting switched on somewhere that I can turn off ?
> 
> Look at you Prefs and Content and set your preferred font size 
> (consult the prefs in Safari if you liked the normal font size there)

I know what you mean .. but it's not the font size that is showing as
big. It's the Zoom setting. When I go to View/Zoom/Reset it goes to
normal..

-- 
Howard

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#23070

In article <1lnk9ba.clxarg1988ezwN%Howard.not@home.com>,
 Howard.not@home.com (Howard) wrote:

> dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> > In article <1lnjuwj.1g6t2pl727w3eN%Howard.not@home.com>,
> >  Howard.not@home.com (Howard) wrote:
> > 
> > >  Firefox.
> > > 
> > > Whenever I open a new window it keeps opening it one step zoomed and I
> > > keep having to rest it back to normal.
> > > 
> > > Is some setting switched on somewhere that I can turn off ?
> > 
> > Look at you Prefs and Content and set your preferred font size 
> > (consult the prefs in Safari if you liked the normal font size there)
> 
> I know what you mean .. but it's not the font size that is showing as
> big. It's the Zoom setting. When I go to View/Zoom/Reset it goes to
> normal..

There are two types of Zoom in FF (as in some other browsers too, like 
my Safari). One of them acts a lot like a magnifying glass in that the 
whole is magnified, the other type of zoom called Zoom Text Only just 
ups and downs the text size, leaving other elements like images, if 
they are styled in px units. But some elements (boxes of various sorts 
as well as images sometimes) will vary under Zoom Text Only because 
they are styled in em units or other types of *font-size* units. 
Website authors often deliberately do this so that their designs are 
flexible 

Even so, the Text Size Only Zoom is sometimes a bit more sophisticated 
than mere text size alterations, there are other layout 
considerations, sometimes smart rendering not to unduly trouble users 
to horizontally scroll. 

But no matter how you have it set, as far as I know, it should not 
vary by mere opening a new tab? I would set your prefs again and save 
and then conduct a standard test, see below.

Anyway, what *type* of zoom is set for your FF? You can see which type 
by looking to see if there is a tick next to View/Zoom/Zoom Text Only. 
What is set as your preferred font-size in your prefs? 

Conduct an experiment that we can all verify and check back with you 
on, a url of a page with a link to the page itself, open it in a new 
window and a new tab and say what exactly happens, is text *the same 
size* but other things like pictures not the same size? I'd be 
surprised at this. Are both text and all else bigger by mere opening 
in a new tab or new window? Is it influenced by whether you use the 
one type of zoom or the other (see above)?

-- 
dorayme

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#23071

dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> There are two types of Zoom in FF

Thanks forthat explanation DRM.... I'll have a good read of it and see
if it solved the issue.

tks again

-- 
Howard

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#23630

dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:

> Conduct an experiment 

Thanks again ... I think I have the solution now.

I always browse in new tabs, so I constantly keep my left thumb hovering
on the command key, ready to command-click.

Also my Logitech mouse has a centre wheel.

I have discovered that any touch to the wheel while I make contact with
the command key immediately triggers a zoom, whether in or out depending
on the direction of the wheel.

Also .. it appears that Firefox remembers the level of zoon last used on
every web page visited !

So .. I 'think' that I was accidentally triggering the zoom, and then
revisiting web pages a while later and finding them zoomed in .... or
not ... as the case may be.

Sorry about the confusion :)



-- 
Howard

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#23631

In article <1lol93o.1l5olhe13055qoN%Howard.not@home.com>,
 Howard.not@home.com (Howard) wrote:

> dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> > Conduct an experiment 
> 
> Thanks again ... I think I have the solution now.
> 
> I always browse in new tabs, so I constantly keep my left thumb hovering
> on the command key, ready to command-click.
> 
> Also my Logitech mouse has a centre wheel.
> 
> I have discovered that any touch to the wheel while I make contact with
> the command key immediately triggers a zoom, whether in or out depending
> on the direction of the wheel.
> 
> Also .. it appears that Firefox remembers the level of zoon last used on
> every web page visited !
> 
> So .. I 'think' that I was accidentally triggering the zoom, and then
> revisiting web pages a while later and finding them zoomed in .... or
> not ... as the case may be.
> 
> Sorry about the confusion :)

Things like this are easy to do and are very puzzling for a while! I 
was sure that my new iPad had some bug when it went to sleep every 
time I altered the volume on the hardware buttons... but I think I 
must have accidentally touched the sleep hardware button around the 
corner at the same time!

-- 
dorayme

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#23632

On 2014-07-10, Howard <Howard.not@home.com> wrote:
> dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>> Conduct an experiment 
>
> Thanks again ... I think I have the solution now.
>
> I always browse in new tabs, so I constantly keep my left thumb hovering
> on the command key, ready to command-click.
>
> Also my Logitech mouse has a centre wheel.
>
> I have discovered that any touch to the wheel while I make contact with
> the command key immediately triggers a zoom, whether in or out depending
> on the direction of the wheel.

So disable or change the key binding for the System Preferences >
Accessibility > Zoom > Use scroll gesture with modifier keys to zoom
setting. Problem solved.

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JR

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#23633

In article <c28kicF69mjU2@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-07-10, Howard <Howard.not@home.com> wrote:
> > dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Conduct an experiment 
> >
> > Thanks again ... I think I have the solution now.
> >
> > I always browse in new tabs, so I constantly keep my left thumb hovering
> > on the command key, ready to command-click.
> >
> > Also my Logitech mouse has a centre wheel.
> >
> > I have discovered that any touch to the wheel while I make contact with
> > the command key immediately triggers a zoom, whether in or out depending
> > on the direction of the wheel.
> 
> So disable or change the key binding for the System Preferences >
> Accessibility > Zoom > Use scroll gesture with modifier keys to zoom
> setting. Problem solved.

Maybe, maybe not. I have Zoom while holding Control for my Magic Mouse 
and this zooms the whole screen. I can zoom the FF window alone with 
Command and scroll by finger rub on the mouse. 

If I change the Sys Pref option to Command to zoom with the mouse, it 
then makes this the zoom all over monitor, Control rub then works just 
for the FF window! 

There is a need to distinguish between types of zooms... whole screen 
mag up and down, browser viewport content up and down and then there 
is the further subtlety to distinguish between browser Zoom and Zoom 
Tex Only.

-- 
dorayme

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#23635

On 2014-07-10, dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> In article <c28kicF69mjU2@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> So disable or change the key binding for the System Preferences >
>> Accessibility > Zoom > Use scroll gesture with modifier keys to zoom
>> setting. Problem solved.
>
> Maybe, maybe not. I have Zoom while holding Control for my Magic Mouse 
> and this zooms the whole screen. I can zoom the FF window alone with 
> Command and scroll by finger rub on the mouse. 

Yes, those are separate functions. It wasn't clear that you were talking
about a Firefox-specific feature.  In that case, here's how to disable
it:

<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/955305>

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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#23640

In article <c28qcfF7dbdU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> It wasn't clear that you were talking
> about a Firefox-specific feature.

OP's OP was about FF, see the subject.

-- 
dorayme

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#23642

On 2014-07-11, dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> In article <c28qcfF7dbdU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> It wasn't clear that you were talking
>> about a Firefox-specific feature.
>
> OP's OP was about FF, see the subject.

Yes, I realize that.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#23634

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-07-10, Howard <Howard.not@home.com> wrote:
> > dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Conduct an experiment 
> >
> > Thanks again ... I think I have the solution now.
> >
> > I always browse in new tabs, so I constantly keep my left thumb hovering
> > on the command key, ready to command-click.
> >
> > Also my Logitech mouse has a centre wheel.
> >
> > I have discovered that any touch to the wheel while I make contact with
> > the command key immediately triggers a zoom, whether in or out depending
> > on the direction of the wheel.
> 
> So disable or change the key binding for the System Preferences >
> Accessibility > Zoom > Use scroll gesture with modifier keys to zoom
> setting. Problem solved.


Hahah ... yes but now that I know what it is doing I quite like it :D

Crazy I know :)


-- 
Howard

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#23643

On 20-06-14 18:23, Howard wrote:
> Abandoned Safari for the umpteenth time this week. So tired of it's
> google search sticking and video streaming issues.....
>
> So ... to Firefox.
>
> Whenever I open a new window it keeps opening it one step zoomed and I
> keep having to rest it back to normal.
>
> Is some setting switched on somewhere that I can turn off ?
>
> Tks.
>
Try Zoom Page?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/zoom-page/

-- 
Steve

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