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  Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-08 00:49 +0200
    Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-07 18:42 -0600
      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 02:05 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-02-08 02:28 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-08 13:49 +1100
            Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-10 16:26 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-11 06:39 +1100
          Re: Newsreaders billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-08 04:04 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-08 14:23 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 16:26 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-02-08 19:25 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 20:59 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 02:03 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 02:26 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-09 02:05 +0100
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 02:06 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 02:25 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-09 17:05 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-08 03:34 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 16:27 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 00:24 -0600
      Re: Newsreaders me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-02-08 16:12 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 15:21 -0600
          Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-08 20:01 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-08 18:09 -0700
              Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 21:48 -0600
            Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 20:51 -0600
            Re: Newsreaders Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2014-02-28 12:19 -0500
          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-09 01:40 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-08 21:50 -0600
      Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-09 19:26 +0200
        Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 17:31 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-11 21:35 +0200
            Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-11 23:30 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-02-12 01:06 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-12 01:13 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-12 17:03 -0500
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-12 22:25 +0000
                    Re: Newsreaders Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-12 17:37 -0500
                    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-13 15:10 +0000
                      Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-13 15:45 +0000
                        Re: Newsreaders Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-13 16:58 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-14 21:58 +0200
        Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-09 23:22 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-09 23:44 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-10 02:01 +0100
          Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-10 10:00 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-11 13:27 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 09:51 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-11 18:55 +0000
                  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-11 23:28 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-09 19:40 -0600
          Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-10 04:34 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-02-10 23:41 -0600
              Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-11 16:23 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-11 19:02 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-11 13:25 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-08 02:04 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-08 03:33 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders RonTheGuy@null.invalid (Ron) - 2014-02-07 19:47 -0800
      Re: Newsreaders snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2014-02-09 09:42 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 11:02 +0100
        Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 11:02 +0100
          Re: Newsreaders snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2014-02-09 16:27 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 09:50 +0100
      Re: Newsreaders Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> - 2014-02-09 16:19 +0200
    Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 09:53 +0100
      Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-02-09 11:06 +0100
        Re: Newsreaders android <here@there.was> - 2014-02-09 12:18 +0100

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#21098

On 2014-02-13, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <bm2alrF4nnhU1@mid.individual.net> 
>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-02-12, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2014.02.11, 20:06 , Király wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think vi is usable to people who started using computers in the 1960s.
>>>
>>> I used vi on an hp Unix machine in the 80's or so.  You get used to it, 
>>> but that doesn't make it "good".
>
>> For me and many others, it's more about availability for me. vi/vim is
>> something you can almost always count on being there on just about any
>> *nix system. The same simply cannot be said of alternative command-line
>> editors. That's why learning vi/vim has huge advantages for anyone who
>> works on the command-line on a variety of systems.
>
> And it's also super powerful when you need it to be.

Right. It's much more than the lame TextEdit of word processors. It's
quite full-featured for a command-line editor.  Being ubiquitous likely
helps there too, since more people use it, and naturally more extensions
and so on are added to it as a result.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#21101

On 2014.02.13, 10:45 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2014-02-13, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> In message <bm2alrF4nnhU1@mid.individual.net>
>>    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2014-02-12, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>> On 2014.02.11, 20:06 , Király wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think vi is usable to people who started using computers in the 1960s.
>>>>
>>>> I used vi on an hp Unix machine in the 80's or so.  You get used to it,
>>>> but that doesn't make it "good".
>>
>>> For me and many others, it's more about availability for me. vi/vim is
>>> something you can almost always count on being there on just about any
>>> *nix system. The same simply cannot be said of alternative command-line
>>> editors. That's why learning vi/vim has huge advantages for anyone who
>>> works on the command-line on a variety of systems.
>>
>> And it's also super powerful when you need it to be.
>
> Right. It's much more than the lame TextEdit of word processors. It's
> quite full-featured for a command-line editor.  Being ubiquitous likely
> helps there too, since more people use it, and naturally more extensions
> and so on are added to it as a result.

For what very little text editing I do, the stock text edit under OS X 
(or Windows notepad for that matter) is more than adequate.  I don't 
recall why, but when editing that particular file a couple years ago I 
was forced to use vi which meant finding a bare bones tutorial/command 
list on the web.  Thankfully I had a laptop handy to use as a web manual.

-- 
   Privacy has become an essential personal chore that most
   people are not trained to perform.
                  - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

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#21108

In article <nospam-89370A.21353311022014@news.netikka.fi>,
 Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> wrote:

> tin and pico are more in my rusty muscle memory so I might also try them.

OK, here is my cookbook for that.

Download and install tin:

cd

curl ftp://ftp.tin.org/pub/news/clients/tin/stable/tin-current.tar.gz -o 
tin-current.tar.gz

tar -xf tin-current.tar.gz

cd tin-2.2.0/

./configure

make build

sudo make install

(You can now use tin via a long command):

tin -g your.newsserver

But you want to set the newsserver and maybe change the default text 
editor from vi to pico:

cd
pico .profile
NNTPSERVER="your.newsserver"; export NNTPSERVER
VISUAL=pico; export VISUAL
EDITOR=pico; export EDITOR
(log out and log back in or reboot so the changes apply)

Then launch tin by

tin -r

or just:

rtin

subscribe to newsgroups via 
g
comp.sys.mac.comm
s

...want to use several newsservers?

pico ~/.tin/newsrctable
your.newsserver1 .newsrc.your.newsserver1 news1
your.newsserver2 .newsrc.your.newsserver2 news2

Then choose the desired newssserver:

tin -g news1
tin -g news2

http://www.zedat.fu-berlin.de/pub/ZEDAT/NetNews-Konfiguration/tin-1.9-lin
ux-en.html

http://www.tin.org
http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/RZ/software/tin/faq.html
http://www.faqs.org/docs/linux_network/x-087-2-newsreaders.tin.html

http://kb.iu.edu/data/acnc.html
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4859/visual-vs-editor-whats-the-d
ifference

-- 
Matti Haveri <mattiDOThaveriATgmailDOTeiroskaaDOTcom> remove ei roskaa

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#21052

In message <nospam-43E843.19260709022014@news.netikka.fi> 
  Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> wrote:
> In article <slrnlfavc9.j9v.timmcn@sugaree.local>,
>  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:

>> I have gone to using slrn with nano as an editor in Terminal

> Thanks for the tip about slrn. Other posts indicate I could use 
> TextWrangler as its editor. 

> I begun using Internet with tin in May 1993 (I still remember seeing 
> comp.sys.mac.digest for real for the first time!!). So using CLI is not 
> a very big deal for me.

> ...I have tried to install slrn but I have not yet succeeded following 
> the instructions below in a (fresh install) of OS X 10.9.1.

Install MacPorts

port install slrn +uudeview +ssl

win.




-- 
I want to secede, but I don't know what state I'm in. - Bart Simpson, 2012

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#21053

On 2014-02-09, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <nospam-43E843.19260709022014@news.netikka.fi> 
>   Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <slrnlfavc9.j9v.timmcn@sugaree.local>,
>>  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>
>>> I have gone to using slrn with nano as an editor in Terminal
>
>> Thanks for the tip about slrn. Other posts indicate I could use 
>> TextWrangler as its editor. 
>
>> I begun using Internet with tin in May 1993 (I still remember seeing 
>> comp.sys.mac.digest for real for the first time!!). So using CLI is not 
>> a very big deal for me.
>
>> ...I have tried to install slrn but I have not yet succeeded following 
>> the instructions below in a (fresh install) of OS X 10.9.1.
>
> Install MacPorts
>
> port install slrn +uudeview +ssl
>
> win.

No need for that nonsense. As I said, it's a straight compile and
install.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#21054

On 2014-02-09, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-09, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> In message <nospam-43E843.19260709022014@news.netikka.fi>
>>   Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <slrnlfavc9.j9v.timmcn@sugaree.local>,
>>>  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> I have gone to using slrn with nano as an editor in Terminal
>>
>>> Thanks for the tip about slrn. Other posts indicate I could use
>>> TextWrangler as its editor.
>>
>>> I begun using Internet with tin in May 1993 (I still remember seeing
>>> comp.sys.mac.digest for real for the first time!!). So using CLI is not
>>> a very big deal for me.
>>
>>> ...I have tried to install slrn but I have not yet succeeded following
>>> the instructions below in a (fresh install) of OS X 10.9.1.
>>
>> Install MacPorts
>>
>> port install slrn +uudeview +ssl
>>
>> win.
>
> No need for that nonsense. As I said, it's a straight compile and
> install.

Ditto.

--
Paul Sture

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#21059

In article <slrnlfg3d7.2ukb.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> Install MacPorts
> 
> port install slrn +uudeview +ssl
> 
> win.

MacPorts is a really bloated way of getting slrn into your system. Gawd. 
You still need the developer tools -- why not use them?
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#21071

In message <52f8e9a0$0$22372$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com>
  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnlfg3d7.2ukb.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> Install MacPorts
>>
>> port install slrn +uudeview +ssl
>>
>> win.

> MacPorts is a really bloated way of getting slrn into your system.

How do you figure that? I don't see that slrn is at all bloated.

> Gawd. You still need the developer tools -- why not use them?

I do, but package managers exist for a reason (convenience) and I have
quiet a lot of packages installed.

--
'Never trust a ruler who puts his faith in tunnels and bunkers and
escape routes. The chances are that his heart isn't in the job.'

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#21072

In article <slrnlfk99b.388.g.kreme@oswin.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <52f8e9a0$0$22372$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com>
>   Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <slrnlfg3d7.2ukb.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> >> Install MacPorts
> >>
> >> port install slrn +uudeview +ssl
> >>
> >> win.
> 
> > MacPorts is a really bloated way of getting slrn into your system.
> 
> How do you figure that? I don't see that slrn is at all bloated.
> 
> > Gawd. You still need the developer tools -- why not use them?
> 
> I do, but package managers exist for a reason (convenience) and I have
> quiet a lot of packages installed.
> 
> --
> 'Never trust a ruler who puts his faith in tunnels and bunkers and
> escape routes. The chances are that his heart isn't in the job.'

I wasn't suggesting that slrn was bloated, I was suggesting that 
MacPorts is bloated. I don't do it that way -- if it works for you, 
that's fine.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#21075

In message <52fa38f6$0$46319$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com> 
  Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnlfk99b.388.g.kreme@oswin.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> In message <52f8e9a0$0$22372$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com>
>>   Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In article <slrnlfg3d7.2ukb.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> 
>> >> Install MacPorts
>> >>
>> >> port install slrn +uudeview +ssl
>> >>
>> >> win.
>> 
>> > MacPorts is a really bloated way of getting slrn into your system.
>> 
>> How do you figure that? I don't see that slrn is at all bloated.
>> 
>> > Gawd. You still need the developer tools -- why not use them?
>> 
>> I do, but package managers exist for a reason (convenience) and I have
>> quiet a lot of packages installed.
>> 
>> --
>> 'Never trust a ruler who puts his faith in tunnels and bunkers and
>> escape routes. The chances are that his heart isn't in the job.'

> I wasn't suggesting that slrn was bloated, I was suggesting that 
> MacPorts is bloated. I don't do it that way -- if it works for you, 
> that's fine.

The entire /opt tree uses 0.076669% of my drive space. And that's on my
LAPTOP.

-- 
All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand.

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#21081

On 2014-02-11, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <52fa38f6$0$46319$c3e8da3$3a1a2348@news.astraweb.com> 
>   Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <slrnlfk99b.388.g.kreme@oswin.local>,
>>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
>>> In message <52f8e9a0$0$22372$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com>
>>>   Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > In article <slrnlfg3d7.2ukb.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>>> >  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> 
>>> >> Install MacPorts
>>> >>
>>> >> port install slrn +uudeview +ssl
>>> >>
>>> >> win.
>>> 
>>> > MacPorts is a really bloated way of getting slrn into your system.
>>> 
>>> How do you figure that? I don't see that slrn is at all bloated.
>>> 
>>> > Gawd. You still need the developer tools -- why not use them?
>>> 
>>> I do, but package managers exist for a reason (convenience) and I have
>>> quiet a lot of packages installed.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 'Never trust a ruler who puts his faith in tunnels and bunkers and
>>> escape routes. The chances are that his heart isn't in the job.'
>
>> I wasn't suggesting that slrn was bloated, I was suggesting that 
>> MacPorts is bloated. I don't do it that way -- if it works for you, 
>> that's fine.
>
> The entire /opt tree uses 0.076669% of my drive space. And that's on my
> LAPTOP.

Whereas slrn by itself would certainly use even less. Same goes for any
other packages you have installed. I think that's the only point he was
making, which is true. He also said the equivalent of "to each, his
own". One wonders why we're still having this conversation...

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#21055

On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 19:26:09 +0200, Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> 
wrote:
> In article <slrnlfavc9.j9v.timmcn@sugaree.local>,
>  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>
>> I have gone to using slrn with nano as an editor in Terminal
>
> Thanks for the tip about slrn. Other posts indicate I could use 
> TextWrangler as its editor.

I had no luck trying to get slrn to deal with any applications outside 
of Terminal, but that may just be due to not knowing how to properly 
write the configs.  The learning curve for setting up the app is 
slightly steep and the documentation leaves a bit to be desired.

> I begun using Internet with tin in May 1993 (I still remember seeing 
> comp.sys.mac.digest for real for the first time!!). So using CLI is 
> not a very big deal for me.
>
> ...I have tried to install slrn but I have not yet succeeded following 
> the instructions below in a (fresh install) of OS X 10.9.1.
>
> First, there is no wget pre-installed. But using plain ftp or 
> downloading via Safari worked.
>
> But the ./configure step fails with an error. Quick Googling around 
> indicated the error is caused by some missing 64-bit library or 
> something like that... There was a workaround but it didn't help the OP 
> or me... Just for fun I tried to compile it under 64-bit Ubuntu VM but 
> it failed with the same error.
>
> Supposedly there are precompiled binaries somewhere but I didn't find 
> them.
>
> http://slrn.sourceforge.net/download.html

I used MacPorts to install it, IIRC.

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#21056

On 2014-02-10, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 19:26:09 +0200, Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> 
> wrote:
>> In article <slrnlfavc9.j9v.timmcn@sugaree.local>,
>>  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I have gone to using slrn with nano as an editor in Terminal
>>
>> Thanks for the tip about slrn. Other posts indicate I could use 
>> TextWrangler as its editor.
>
> I had no luck trying to get slrn to deal with any applications outside 
> of Terminal, but that may just be due to not knowing how to properly 
> write the configs.  The learning curve for setting up the app is 
> slightly steep and the documentation leaves a bit to be desired.

It's rather simple. As shown here, you just use the editor_command
setting in your ~/.slrnrc file:

<http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/slrn-manual-6.html#ss6.20>

Like so:

set editor_command "editorcommandhere"

For instance, here's mine, which set automatic hard line wrapping at 72
characters and enables the vim colorized spell checker:

set editor_command "vim --cmd 'set textwidth=72' --cmd 'set spell' --cmd
'hi clear SpellBad' --cmd 'hi SpellBad cterm=underline ctermfg=red' +%d
'%s'"

Substitute your preferred command-line editor.

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#21069

On 10 Feb 2014 04:34:12 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-10, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 19:26:09 +0200, Matti Haveri 
>> <nospam@here.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <slrnlfavc9.j9v.timmcn@sugaree.local>,
>>>  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have gone to using slrn with nano as an editor in Terminal
>>>
>>> Thanks for the tip about slrn. Other posts indicate I could use 
>>> TextWrangler as its editor.
>>
>> I had no luck trying to get slrn to deal with any applications 
>> outside of Terminal, but that may just be due to not knowing how to 
>> properly write the configs.  The learning curve for setting up the 
>> app is slightly steep and the documentation leaves a bit to be 
>> desired.
>
> It's rather simple. As shown here, you just use the editor_command 
> setting in your ~/.slrnrc file:
>
><http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/slrn-manual-6.html#ss6.20>
>
> Like so:
>
> set editor_command "editorcommandhere"
>
> For instance, here's mine, which set automatic hard line wrapping at 72
> characters and enables the vim colorized spell checker:
>
> set editor_command "vim --cmd 'set textwidth=72' --cmd 'set spell' --cmd
> 'hi clear SpellBad' --cmd 'hi SpellBad cterm=underline ctermfg=red' +%d
> '%s'"
>
> Substitute your preferred command-line editor.

Yeah, my editor_command entry is simpler, just calling nano, but I meant 
that I could not get slrn to use TextWrangler as the editor or Chromium 
as the browser.  Perhaps that is because I installed using MacPorts and 
it can't find its way out of the /opt filesystem to applications in 
/Applications?

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#21074

On 2014-02-11, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> On 10 Feb 2014 04:34:12 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-02-10, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 19:26:09 +0200, Matti Haveri 
>>> <nospam@here.invalid> wrote:
>>>> In article <slrnlfavc9.j9v.timmcn@sugaree.local>,
>>>>  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have gone to using slrn with nano as an editor in Terminal
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the tip about slrn. Other posts indicate I could use 
>>>> TextWrangler as its editor.
>>>
>>> I had no luck trying to get slrn to deal with any applications 
>>> outside of Terminal, but that may just be due to not knowing how to 
>>> properly write the configs.  The learning curve for setting up the 
>>> app is slightly steep and the documentation leaves a bit to be 
>>> desired.
>>
>> It's rather simple. As shown here, you just use the editor_command 
>> setting in your ~/.slrnrc file:
>>
>><http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/slrn-manual-6.html#ss6.20>
>>
>> Like so:
>>
>> set editor_command "editorcommandhere"
>>
>> For instance, here's mine, which set automatic hard line wrapping at 72
>> characters and enables the vim colorized spell checker:
>>
>> set editor_command "vim --cmd 'set textwidth=72' --cmd 'set spell' --cmd
>> 'hi clear SpellBad' --cmd 'hi SpellBad cterm=underline ctermfg=red' +%d
>> '%s'"
>>
>> Substitute your preferred command-line editor.
>
> Yeah, my editor_command entry is simpler, just calling nano, but I meant 
> that I could not get slrn to use TextWrangler as the editor or Chromium 
> as the browser.  Perhaps that is because I installed using MacPorts and 
> it can't find its way out of the /opt filesystem to applications in 
> /Applications?

1. It needs to be a command-line editor. 
2. If the editor in question is not on your $PATH, you'll need to
specify the full path in the editor_command setting.

The stand-alone (read: not App Store) version of TextWrangler comes with
a command-line editor that gets installed at /usr/local/bin/edit. If you
call 'edit' from the command line, it opens TextWrangler's GUI editor.

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#21076

In message <slrnlfje0s.shg.timmcn@sugaree.local> 
  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> On 10 Feb 2014 04:34:12 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-02-10, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 19:26:09 +0200, Matti Haveri 
>>> <nospam@here.invalid> wrote:
>>>> In article <slrnlfavc9.j9v.timmcn@sugaree.local>,
>>>>  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have gone to using slrn with nano as an editor in Terminal
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the tip about slrn. Other posts indicate I could use 
>>>> TextWrangler as its editor.
>>>
>>> I had no luck trying to get slrn to deal with any applications 
>>> outside of Terminal, but that may just be due to not knowing how to 
>>> properly write the configs.  The learning curve for setting up the 
>>> app is slightly steep and the documentation leaves a bit to be 
>>> desired.
>>
>> It's rather simple. As shown here, you just use the editor_command 
>> setting in your ~/.slrnrc file:
>>
>><http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/slrn-manual-6.html#ss6.20>
>>
>> Like so:
>>
>> set editor_command "editorcommandhere"
>>
>> For instance, here's mine, which set automatic hard line wrapping at 72
>> characters and enables the vim colorized spell checker:
>>
>> set editor_command "vim --cmd 'set textwidth=72' --cmd 'set spell' --cmd
>> 'hi clear SpellBad' --cmd 'hi SpellBad cterm=underline ctermfg=red' +%d
>> '%s'"
>>
>> Substitute your preferred command-line editor.

> Yeah, my editor_command entry is simpler, just calling nano, but I meant 
> that I could not get slrn to use TextWrangler as the editor

But that's trivial. TW includes a "command line tool" named, as I
recall, 'edit'

set editor_command "edit -w --resume +%d '%s'"

> or Chromium as the browser.

Dunno about that, but

set non_Xbrowser "open '%s'"
set Xbrowser "open '%s'"

Works perfectly well for me and always uses my default browser.

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#21070

In message <blr364Fi5o6U1@mid.individual.net>
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-02-10, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 19:26:09 +0200, Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>> In article <slrnlfavc9.j9v.timmcn@sugaree.local>,
>>>  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have gone to using slrn with nano as an editor in Terminal
>>>
>>> Thanks for the tip about slrn. Other posts indicate I could use
>>> TextWrangler as its editor.
>>
>> I had no luck trying to get slrn to deal with any applications outside
>> of Terminal, but that may just be due to not knowing how to properly
>> write the configs.  The learning curve for setting up the app is
>> slightly steep and the documentation leaves a bit to be desired.

> It's rather simple. As shown here, you just use the editor_command
> setting in your ~/.slrnrc file:

> <http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/slrn-manual-6.html#ss6.20>

> Like so:

> set editor_command "editorcommandhere"

> For instance, here's mine, which set automatic hard line wrapping at 72
> characters and enables the vim colorized spell checker:

> set editor_command "vim --cmd 'set textwidth=72' --cmd 'set spell' --cmd
> 'hi clear SpellBad' --cmd 'hi SpellBad cterm=underline ctermfg=red' +%d
> '%s'"

Mine is just:

set post_editor_command "vim -c 'set filetype=mail' +8 %s"

But I normally have spell checking on in vim.

> Substitute your preferred command-line editor.

I looked at jed, which is very nice. Sadly, it's not vim and I'm just too
entrenched to use anything else in the terminal.

On this laptop, vim is an alias for bbedit, so I need to adjust some things.

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#21002

On 2014-02-07, Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> wrote:
> In article <l4jfnl$995$1@dont-email.me>,
>  Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>
>> So what is the consensus for a newsreader to replace MTNW on Mavericks? 
>
> MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3.b3 via Mac OS X Server 10.6.8 via VMware Fusion 
> 6.0.2 via OS X 10.9.1 :-|

I've replaced MTNW with slrn on Mac OS X 10.9.x and am loving it! : )

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#21006

In message <nospam-07233C.00490208022014@news.netikka.fi> 
  Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> wrote:
> In article <l4jfnl$995$1@dont-email.me>,
>  Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

>> So what is the consensus for a newsreader to replace MTNW on Mavericks? 

> MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3.b3 via Mac OS X Server 10.6.8 via VMware Fusion 
> 6.0.2 via OS X 10.9.1 :-|

That's a silly level of trouble to go to for MTNW.

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#21008

Matti Haveri <nospam@here.invalid> wrote:

> In article <l4jfnl$995$1@dont-email.me>,
>  Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
> > So what is the consensus for a newsreader to replace MTNW on Mavericks?
> 
> MT-NewsWatcher 3.5.3.b3 via Mac OS X Server 10.6.8 via VMware Fusion 
> 6.0.2 via OS X 10.9.1 :-|
MacSoup. 

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