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  iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-25 19:35 -0600
    Re: iTunes 11 8-( Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-25 18:06 -0800
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-26 14:05 +0000
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:15 -0600
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-27 12:40 +0000
    Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 21:15 -0500
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 15:08 +0000
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 23:05 +0000
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> - 2014-01-26 18:10 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-01-26 15:40 -0800
                  Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 19:25 -0600
                    Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-27 01:52 +0000
                      Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-27 19:14 -0600
                        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-28 01:28 +0000
                    Re: iTunes 11 8-( Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-01-26 20:30 -0800
                      Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-27 06:41 -0500
                        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-27 14:56 +0000
                        Re: iTunes 11 8-( John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-27 08:01 -0800
                      Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-27 19:12 -0600
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-27 14:56 +0000
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-27 15:39 +0000
                  Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-27 22:50 +0000
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-26 08:51 -0700
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:11 -0600
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-26 16:27 -0700
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-27 08:19 -0800
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 13:55 -0500
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:10 -0600
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-26 13:16 -0800
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 16:38 -0500
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:08 -0600
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-27 12:40 +0000
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( W^3 <82ndAve@comcast.net> - 2014-01-30 23:22 -0800
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-01-31 03:11 -0800
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-31 21:42 +0000
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-01-31 16:33 -0800
                  Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-02-01 16:30 +0000
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-31 12:34 +0000
    Re: iTunes 11 8-( Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 02:44 +0000
      Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000
        Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 15:06 +0000
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-26 07:28 -0800
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 13:55 -0500
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:07 -0600
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 15:38 -0500
                  Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-27 06:20 -0500
                  Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 13:06 -0500
                    Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-27 17:20 -0500
                      Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 18:33 -0500
                        Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-01-28 10:03 -0500
                          Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:36 -0500
                    Re: iTunes 11 8-( "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2014-02-08 10:40 -0500
                      Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-08 12:54 -0500
            Re: iTunes 11 8-( erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:05 -0600
              Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 15:38 -0500
                Re: iTunes 11 8-( Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 22:26 +0000
          Re: iTunes 11 8-( nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 13:55 -0500

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#20686 — iTunes 11 8-(

I "up"graded iTunes because I'm probably going to buy an iPad Air soon.  
It's a mucky mess.  
The master music list has vanished, as far as I can see.  Is there a way 
to get it back? 
It took several tries to find where my playlists were hidden.  
It won't let me see album covers at the bottom of the playlists any 
more, just uses up a 3-inch column so most of my info is hidden off to 
the right and I have to scroll to find it.
It wanted to make my book/pdf lists impossible to read with monsterview, 
but I finally managed to defeat that, too.

My distrust of "up"grades has been vindicated yet again.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist

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#20687

In article <drache-DC7CDA.19350325012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
 erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> I "up"graded iTunes because I'm probably going to buy an iPad Air soon.  
> It's a mucky mess.  
> The master music list has vanished, as far as I can see.  Is there a way 
> to get it back? 
> It took several tries to find where my playlists were hidden.  
> It won't let me see album covers at the bottom of the playlists any 
> more, just uses up a 3-inch column so most of my info is hidden off to 
> the right and I have to scroll to find it.
> It wanted to make my book/pdf lists impossible to read with monsterview, 
> but I finally managed to defeat that, too.
> 
> My distrust of "up"grades has been vindicated yet again.

Google is your friend. I discovered that unless you have a backup of 
your entire system, you can't back out of updating iTunes.  When v11 
came out, it had some really bad podcast bugs which I had to back out by 
hand from my backup. TimeMachine was NO help--I needed a disk archive 
and a utility to unpack the iTunes Installation package and replace all 
the old components by hand from the command-line.

My guess is that's not an option for you.  And if you didn't take a full 
clone dump of your disk prior to upgrading, you out of luck when it 
comes to backing out to a prior version of iTunes.

BUT...you can tweak things back to the old iTunes interface with some 
command-line juju and poking around various options in the interface.

<http://www.tuaw.com/2012/12/07/itunes-11-for-fogies-where-did-that-stuff
-go/>
<http://www.davescomputertips.com/itunes-11-how-to-get-back-to-the-classi
c-look/>
<http://www.macworld.com/article/1154017/restoreitunesinterface.html>

-- 
DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...
[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]

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#20702

Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> In article <drache-DC7CDA.19350325012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> I "up"graded iTunes because I'm probably going to buy an iPad Air soon.  
>> It's a mucky mess.  
>> The master music list has vanished, as far as I can see.  Is there a way 
>> to get it back? 
>> It took several tries to find where my playlists were hidden.  
>> It won't let me see album covers at the bottom of the playlists any 
>> more, just uses up a 3-inch column so most of my info is hidden off to 
>> the right and I have to scroll to find it.
>> It wanted to make my book/pdf lists impossible to read with monsterview, 
>> but I finally managed to defeat that, too.
>> 
>> My distrust of "up"grades has been vindicated yet again.
> 
> Google is your friend. I discovered that unless you have a backup of 
> your entire system, you can't back out of updating iTunes.  When v11 
> came out, it had some really bad podcast bugs which I had to back out by 
> hand from my backup. TimeMachine was NO help--I needed a disk archive 
> and a utility to unpack the iTunes Installation package and replace all 
> the old components by hand from the command-line.
> 
> My guess is that's not an option for you.  And if you didn't take a full 
> clone dump of your disk prior to upgrading, you out of luck when it 
> comes to backing out to a prior version of iTunes.
> 
> BUT...you can tweak things back to the old iTunes interface with some 
> command-line juju and poking around various options in the interface.
> 
> <http://www.tuaw.com/2012/12/07/itunes-11-for-fogies-where-did-that-stuff
> -go/>
> <http://www.davescomputertips.com/itunes-11-how-to-get-back-to-the-classi
> c-look/>
> <http://www.macworld.com/article/1154017/restoreitunesinterface.html>

After considerable grumbling and experimentation(I am stubborn) I did those
things.  I still miss the master music list and the album covers at the
bottom of the playlist rather than wasting 3 inches of content,
particularly since I've had to scan in the covers of a goodly number of
them(apple is far from my only music source and I REALLY dislike most
popular music) i also liked being able to turn lists upsidedown now and
then and have yet to find that, if it still exists.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPads

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#20703

In message <lc346m$j5u$7@dont-email.me> 
  Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>> In article <drache-DC7CDA.19350325012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>  erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> I "up"graded iTunes because I'm probably going to buy an iPad Air soon.  
>>> It's a mucky mess.  
>>> The master music list has vanished, as far as I can see.  Is there a way 
>>> to get it back? 
>>> It took several tries to find where my playlists were hidden.  
>>> It won't let me see album covers at the bottom of the playlists any 
>>> more, just uses up a 3-inch column so most of my info is hidden off to 
>>> the right and I have to scroll to find it.
>>> It wanted to make my book/pdf lists impossible to read with monsterview, 
>>> but I finally managed to defeat that, too.
>>> 
>>> My distrust of "up"grades has been vindicated yet again.
>> 
>> Google is your friend. I discovered that unless you have a backup of 
>> your entire system, you can't back out of updating iTunes.  When v11 
>> came out, it had some really bad podcast bugs which I had to back out by 
>> hand from my backup. TimeMachine was NO help--I needed a disk archive 
>> and a utility to unpack the iTunes Installation package and replace all 
>> the old components by hand from the command-line.
>> 
>> My guess is that's not an option for you.  And if you didn't take a full 
>> clone dump of your disk prior to upgrading, you out of luck when it 
>> comes to backing out to a prior version of iTunes.
>> 
>> BUT...you can tweak things back to the old iTunes interface with some 
>> command-line juju and poking around various options in the interface.
>> 
>> <http://www.tuaw.com/2012/12/07/itunes-11-for-fogies-where-did-that-stuff
>> -go/>
>> <http://www.davescomputertips.com/itunes-11-how-to-get-back-to-the-classi
>> c-look/>
>> <http://www.macworld.com/article/1154017/restoreitunesinterface.html>

> After considerable grumbling and experimentation(I am stubborn) I did those
> things.  I still miss the master music list and the album covers at the
> bottom of the playlist rather than wasting 3 inches of content,
> particularly since I've had to scan in the covers of a goodly number of
> them(apple is far from my only music source and I REALLY dislike most
> popular music) i also liked being able to turn lists upsidedown now and
> then and have yet to find that, if it still exists.

Does anyone have the foggiest idea what he's complaining about?

3" of what?

When I launch iTunes I get a list of all the 24,987 music tracks, just
like I've gotten in iTunes since... Well, since before it was called
iTunes.


-- 
S is for SUSAN who perished of fits
T is for TITUS who flew into bits

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#20718

In article <slrnlea5i4.4tm.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <lc346m$j5u$7@dont-email.me> 
>   Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> > Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
> >> In article <drache-DC7CDA.19350325012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >>  erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I "up"graded iTunes because I'm probably going to buy an iPad Air soon.  
> >>> It's a mucky mess.  
> >>> The master music list has vanished, as far as I can see.  Is there a way 
> >>> to get it back? 
> >>> It took several tries to find where my playlists were hidden.  
> >>> It won't let me see album covers at the bottom of the playlists any 
> >>> more, just uses up a 3-inch column so most of my info is hidden off to 
> >>> the right and I have to scroll to find it.
> >>> It wanted to make my book/pdf lists impossible to read with monsterview, 
> >>> but I finally managed to defeat that, too.
> >>> 
> >>> My distrust of "up"grades has been vindicated yet again.
> >> 
> >> Google is your friend. I discovered that unless you have a backup of 
> >> your entire system, you can't back out of updating iTunes.  When v11 
> >> came out, it had some really bad podcast bugs which I had to back out by 
> >> hand from my backup. TimeMachine was NO help--I needed a disk archive 
> >> and a utility to unpack the iTunes Installation package and replace all 
> >> the old components by hand from the command-line.
> >> 
> >> My guess is that's not an option for you.  And if you didn't take a full 
> >> clone dump of your disk prior to upgrading, you out of luck when it 
> >> comes to backing out to a prior version of iTunes.
> >> 
> >> BUT...you can tweak things back to the old iTunes interface with some 
> >> command-line juju and poking around various options in the interface.
> >> 
> >> <http://www.tuaw.com/2012/12/07/itunes-11-for-fogies-where-did-that-stuff
> >> -go/>
> >> <http://www.davescomputertips.com/itunes-11-how-to-get-back-to-the-classi
> >> c-look/>
> >> <http://www.macworld.com/article/1154017/restoreitunesinterface.html>
> 
> > After considerable grumbling and experimentation(I am stubborn) I did those
> > things.  I still miss the master music list and the album covers at the
> > bottom of the playlist rather than wasting 3 inches of content,
> > particularly since I've had to scan in the covers of a goodly number of
> > them(apple is far from my only music source and I REALLY dislike most
> > popular music) i also liked being able to turn lists upsidedown now and
> > then and have yet to find that, if it still exists.
> 
> Does anyone have the foggiest idea what he's complaining about?
> 
> 3" of what?
> 
> When I launch iTunes I get a list of all the 24,987 music tracks, just
> like I've gotten in iTunes since... Well, since before it was called
> iTunes.

I'm a she.   And I get a fat graphic of an album cover or blank graphic 
even for a single song.  I don't get an actual uninterrupted list of 
content.  If you can tell me how to dump the graphics, I will be very 
thankful.  It's not in View or Prefs or in the useless Help menus.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist

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#20743

In message <drache-E22A31.14151426012014@news.eternal-september.org> 
  erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> In article <slrnlea5i4.4tm.g.kreme@amelia.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> In message <lc346m$j5u$7@dont-email.me> 
>>   Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>> > Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote:
>> >> In article <drache-DC7CDA.19350325012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> >>  erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>> I "up"graded iTunes because I'm probably going to buy an iPad Air soon.  
>> >>> It's a mucky mess.  
>> >>> The master music list has vanished, as far as I can see.  Is there a way 
>> >>> to get it back? 
>> >>> It took several tries to find where my playlists were hidden.  
>> >>> It won't let me see album covers at the bottom of the playlists any 
>> >>> more, just uses up a 3-inch column so most of my info is hidden off to 
>> >>> the right and I have to scroll to find it.
>> >>> It wanted to make my book/pdf lists impossible to read with monsterview, 
>> >>> but I finally managed to defeat that, too.
>> >>> 
>> >>> My distrust of "up"grades has been vindicated yet again.
>> >> 
>> >> Google is your friend. I discovered that unless you have a backup of 
>> >> your entire system, you can't back out of updating iTunes.  When v11 
>> >> came out, it had some really bad podcast bugs which I had to back out by 
>> >> hand from my backup. TimeMachine was NO help--I needed a disk archive 
>> >> and a utility to unpack the iTunes Installation package and replace all 
>> >> the old components by hand from the command-line.
>> >> 
>> >> My guess is that's not an option for you.  And if you didn't take a full 
>> >> clone dump of your disk prior to upgrading, you out of luck when it 
>> >> comes to backing out to a prior version of iTunes.
>> >> 
>> >> BUT...you can tweak things back to the old iTunes interface with some 
>> >> command-line juju and poking around various options in the interface.
>> >> 
>> >> <http://www.tuaw.com/2012/12/07/itunes-11-for-fogies-where-did-that-stuff
>> >> -go/>
>> >> <http://www.davescomputertips.com/itunes-11-how-to-get-back-to-the-classi
>> >> c-look/>
>> >> <http://www.macworld.com/article/1154017/restoreitunesinterface.html>
>> 
>> > After considerable grumbling and experimentation(I am stubborn) I did those
>> > things.  I still miss the master music list and the album covers at the
>> > bottom of the playlist rather than wasting 3 inches of content,
>> > particularly since I've had to scan in the covers of a goodly number of
>> > them(apple is far from my only music source and I REALLY dislike most
>> > popular music) i also liked being able to turn lists upsidedown now and
>> > then and have yet to find that, if it still exists.
>> 
>> Does anyone have the foggiest idea what he's complaining about?
>> 
>> 3" of what?
>> 
>> When I launch iTunes I get a list of all the 24,987 music tracks, just
>> like I've gotten in iTunes since... Well, since before it was called
>> iTunes.

> I'm a she.   And I get a fat graphic of an album cover or blank graphic 
> even for a single song.  I don't get an actual uninterrupted list of 
> content.  If you can tell me how to dump the graphics, I will be very 
> thankful.  It's not in View or Prefs or in the useless Help menus.

<https://www.dropbox.com/s/2dxxhknu2gp2d3q/Screenshot%202014-01-27%2005.38.28.PNG>

This is what iTuens looks like for me. A list of songs, in this case,
sorted by album name.

-- 
"You can speak soon and write like a graduate college if me let you help
for a day of 15 minutes" "1963" Issue #1

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#20689

In article <drache-DC7CDA.19350325012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> I "up"graded iTunes because I'm probably going to buy an iPad Air soon.  
> It's a mucky mess.  
> The master music list has vanished, as far as I can see.  Is there a way 
> to get it back? 
> It took several tries to find where my playlists were hidden.  
> It won't let me see album covers at the bottom of the playlists any 
> more, just uses up a 3-inch column so most of my info is hidden off to 
> the right and I have to scroll to find it.
> It wanted to make my book/pdf lists impossible to read with monsterview, 
> but I finally managed to defeat that, too.
> 
> My distrust of "up"grades has been vindicated yet again.

turn on the sidebar - view menu, show sidebar.

i don't know why they hid the sidebar but they did.

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#20701

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <drache-DC7CDA.19350325012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> I "up"graded iTunes because I'm probably going to buy an iPad Air soon.  
>> It's a mucky mess.  
>> The master music list has vanished, as far as I can see.  Is there a way 
>> to get it back? 
>> It took several tries to find where my playlists were hidden.  
>> It won't let me see album covers at the bottom of the playlists any 
>> more, just uses up a 3-inch column so most of my info is hidden off to 
>> the right and I have to scroll to find it.
>> It wanted to make my book/pdf lists impossible to read with monsterview, 
>> but I finally managed to defeat that, too.
>> 
>> My distrust of "up"grades has been vindicated yet again.
> 
> turn on the sidebar - view menu, show sidebar.
> 
> i don't know why they hid the sidebar but they did.

Oh, I found that, but it's only partly there. There is more junk, but no
simple list of all my music.  Everything has to be done a column at a time
by playlists, apparently.
-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#20706

On 2014-01-26, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <drache-DC7CDA.19350325012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> I "up"graded iTunes because I'm probably going to buy an iPad Air soon.  
>>> It's a mucky mess.  
>>> The master music list has vanished, as far as I can see.  Is there a way 
>>> to get it back? 
>>> It took several tries to find where my playlists were hidden.  
>>> It won't let me see album covers at the bottom of the playlists any 
>>> more, just uses up a 3-inch column so most of my info is hidden off to 
>>> the right and I have to scroll to find it.
>>> It wanted to make my book/pdf lists impossible to read with monsterview, 
>>> but I finally managed to defeat that, too.
>>> 
>>> My distrust of "up"grades has been vindicated yet again.
>> 
>> turn on the sidebar - view menu, show sidebar.
>> 
>> i don't know why they hid the sidebar but they did.
>
> Oh, I found that, but it's only partly there. There is more junk, but no
> simple list of all my music.  Everything has to be done a column at a time
> by playlists, apparently.

Bull.

Click "Music" on the left side bar, then click the "Songs" tab at the
top. Presto - full multi-column listing of all of your music. If you
choose View > Column Browser from the menu bar, you can hide/show the
column browser as well. 

When you don't embrace change, you limit yourself while blaming things
out of your control for your own limitation.

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#20727

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-01-26, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <drache-DC7CDA.19350325012014@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I "up"graded iTunes because I'm probably going to buy an iPad Air soon.  
>>>> It's a mucky mess.  
>>>> The master music list has vanished, as far as I can see.  Is there a way 
>>>> to get it back? 
>>>> It took several tries to find where my playlists were hidden.  
>>>> It won't let me see album covers at the bottom of the playlists any 
>>>> more, just uses up a 3-inch column so most of my info is hidden off to 
>>>> the right and I have to scroll to find it.
>>>> It wanted to make my book/pdf lists impossible to read with monsterview, 
>>>> but I finally managed to defeat that, too.
>>>> 
>>>> My distrust of "up"grades has been vindicated yet again.
>>> 
>>> turn on the sidebar - view menu, show sidebar.
>>> 
>>> i don't know why they hid the sidebar but they did.
>> 
>> Oh, I found that, but it's only partly there. There is more junk, but no
>> simple list of all my music.  Everything has to be done a column at a time
>> by playlists, apparently.
> 
> Bull.
> 
> Click "Music" on the left side bar, then click the "Songs" tab at the
> top. Presto - full multi-column listing of all of your music. If you
> choose View > Column Browser from the menu bar, you can hide/show the
> column browser as well. 
> 
No, it gives me monster graphics of album covers or gray square the same
soze with bits of list  even for single songs.
Why should i embrace waste space?

> When you don't embrace change, you limit yourself while blaming things
> out of your control for your own limitation.



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#20728

On 2014-01-26, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>> Click "Music" on the left side bar, then click the "Songs" tab at the
>> top. Presto - full multi-column listing of all of your music. If you
>> choose View > Column Browser from the menu bar, you can hide/show the
>> column browser as well. 
>> 
> No, it gives me monster graphics of album covers or gray square the same
> soze with bits of list  even for single songs.
> Why should i embrace waste space?

Show me a screen shot then. 

For me, Music > Songs displays a multi-column listing of all songs
similar to this:

<http://www.macobserver.com/imgs/tmo_articles/20121129itunes11songlistsidebar_large.jpg>

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#20729

On 2014-01-26 23:05:29 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2014-01-26, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Click "Music" on the left side bar, then click the "Songs" tab at the
>>> top. Presto - full multi-column listing of all of your music. If you
>>> choose View > Column Browser from the menu bar, you can hide/show the
>>> column browser as well.
>>> 
>> No, it gives me monster graphics of album covers or gray square the same
>> soze with bits of list  even for single songs.
>> Why should i embrace waste space?
> 
> Show me a screen shot then.
> 
> For me, Music > Songs displays a multi-column listing of all songs
> similar to this:
> 
> <http://www.macobserver.com/imgs/tmo_articles/20121129itunes11songlistsidebar_large.jpg> 
> 

Sounds like she has "Show Artwork" selected from the View menu, with 
the size slider set to large.
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but among those whom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh.  --WH 
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#20731

Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> writes:

> On 2014-01-26 23:05:29 +0000, Jolly Roger said:
> 
> > On 2014-01-26, Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote:
> >> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Click "Music" on the left side bar, then click the "Songs" tab at the
> >>> top. Presto - full multi-column listing of all of your music. If you
> >>> choose View > Column Browser from the menu bar, you can hide/show the
> >>> column browser as well.
> >>> 
> >> No, it gives me monster graphics of album covers or gray square the same
> >> soze with bits of list  even for single songs.
> >> Why should i embrace waste space?
> > 
> > Show me a screen shot then.
> > 
> > For me, Music > Songs displays a multi-column listing of all songs
> > similar to this:
> > 
> > <http://www.macobserver.com/imgs/tmo_articles/20121129itunes11songlistsidebar_large.jpg> 
> > 
> 
> Sounds like she has "Show Artwork" selected from the View menu, with 
> the size slider set to large.

Yes.  Go to the View menu, select Show View Options, and uncheck Show
Artwork near the top.

Martin

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#20734

In article <myiot6qply.fsf@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU>,
 Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu 
 <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote:

> > Sounds like she has "Show Artwork" selected from the View menu, with 
> > the size slider set to large.
> 
> Yes.  Go to the View menu, select Show View Options, and uncheck Show
> Artwork near the top.

I did that before. It works for "Songs", but not for albums, artist, or 
anything else, and it has all that stuff in the way at the top instead 
of being a selectable column with up and down triangles.  Only the 
individual playlists can be set to the view I prefer.  It was nice 
having the album covers at the bottom of that column, but it's better 
missing than getting in the way of detailed info and making the list 
several times as long and so wide I have to scroll across for more than 
minimal info.  I can use it, but I don't have to like it.

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#20736

On 2014-01-27, erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> In article <myiot6qply.fsf@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU>,
>  Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu 
> <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote:
>
>> > Sounds like she has "Show Artwork" selected from the View menu, with 
>> > the size slider set to large.
>> 
>> Yes.  Go to the View menu, select Show View Options, and uncheck Show
>> Artwork near the top.
>
> I did that before. It works for "Songs"

Which is what I told you to select (Music > Songs), yet you acted as if it
*didn't* work.

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#20776

In article <bklsekFk9r2U1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-01-27, erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> > In article <myiot6qply.fsf@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU>,
> >  Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu 
> > <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> > Sounds like she has "Show Artwork" selected from the View menu, with 
> >> > the size slider set to large.
> >> 
> >> Yes.  Go to the View menu, select Show View Options, and uncheck Show
> >> Artwork near the top.
> >
> > I did that before. It works for "Songs"
> 
> Which is what I told you to select (Music > Songs), yet you acted as if it
> *didn't* work.

I was missing a step. Now it looks right.  I had to turn off Column View 
or whatever it's called to get rid of the stuff on top.  

I know I've been trying your patience. Thanks 8-)

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#20777

On 2014-01-28, erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> In article <bklsekFk9r2U1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-01-27, erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>> > In article <myiot6qply.fsf@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU>,
>> >  Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu 
>> > <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >> > Sounds like she has "Show Artwork" selected from the View menu, with 
>> >> > the size slider set to large.
>> >> 
>> >> Yes.  Go to the View menu, select Show View Options, and uncheck Show
>> >> Artwork near the top.
>> >
>> > I did that before. It works for "Songs"
>> 
>> Which is what I told you to select (Music > Songs), yet you acted as if it
>> *didn't* work.
>
> I was missing a step. Now it looks right.  I had to turn off Column View 
> or whatever it's called to get rid of the stuff on top.  

The Column Browser, yeah. (I did mention that too. : D)

> I know I've been trying your patience. Thanks 8-)

De nada. : )

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#20737

erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> writes:

> In article <myiot6qply.fsf@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU>,
>  Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu 
>  <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > > Sounds like she has "Show Artwork" selected from the View menu, with 
> > > the size slider set to large.
> > 
> > Yes.  Go to the View menu, select Show View Options, and uncheck Show
> > Artwork near the top.
> 
> I did that before. It works for "Songs", but not for albums, artist, or 
> anything else

It also works for Playlists, not just Songs.  And under Artists and
Genres, you can make the album artwork relatively small via the slider
in the View Options.

> and it has all that stuff in the way at the top instead 
> of being a selectable column with up and down triangles.

What stuff in the way??  

Under Music/Songs or Music/Playlists, I can click on the various
columns (Name, Kind, Artist, ...) to sort forward or backward by those
columns.

I don't like having the album covers waste so much space either, but
at least under Songs and Playlists you can avoid them, and in the
other lists you can shrink them.  And you can sort Music/Songs by
Album, giving you a list view sorted by, uh, albums.

I too would prefer to have a list view available for the Albums
display itself but c'est la vie.

Martin

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#20741

On 1/26/14, 11:30 PM, Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu wrote:
> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> writes:
>
>> In article <myiot6qply.fsf@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU>,
>>   Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu
>>   <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>> Sounds like she has "Show Artwork" selected from the View menu, with
>>>> the size slider set to large.
>>>
>>> Yes.  Go to the View menu, select Show View Options, and uncheck Show
>>> Artwork near the top.
>>
>> I did that before. It works for "Songs", but not for albums, artist, or
>> anything else
>
> It also works for Playlists, not just Songs.  And under Artists and
> Genres, you can make the album artwork relatively small via the slider
> in the View Options.
>
>> and it has all that stuff in the way at the top instead
>> of being a selectable column with up and down triangles.
>
> What stuff in the way??
>
> Under Music/Songs or Music/Playlists, I can click on the various
> columns (Name, Kind, Artist, ...) to sort forward or backward by those
> columns.
>
> I don't like having the album covers waste so much space either, but
> at least under Songs and Playlists you can avoid them, and in the
> other lists you can shrink them.  And you can sort Music/Songs by
> Album, giving you a list view sorted by, uh, albums.
>
> I too would prefer to have a list view available for the Albums
> display itself but c'est la vie.
>
> Martin
>
So this helped a lot.  I hadn't figured out about adding and subtracting 
columns from the headers in the Song category.  But with an iPod (Touch 
4th gen, IOS 6) I haven't figured out how to play an album in track 
order.  It seems to be randomizing the order.  I was hoping that 
switching to the Song category on the iPod would give me the same 
options that exist in iTunes on the computer but the ability to sort 
isn't there.  Does one really have to muck with playlists to play an 
album in track order on an iPod?

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#20749

"M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>  I hadn't figured out about adding and subtracting columns from the
> headers in the Song category.  But with an iPod (Touch 4th gen, IOS 6) I
> haven't figured out how to play an album in track order.  It seems to be
> randomizing the order.  I was hoping that switching to the Song category
> on the iPod would give me the same options that exist in iTunes on the
> computer but the ability to sort isn't there.  Does one really have to
> muck with playlists to play an album in track order on an iPod?
 
I'm still arguing with 11, but I've been tinkering with iTunes for years. 
Because I so often add albums from obscure CDs where I have to type in all
the info myself, I've learned to number the tracks and tell iTunes it's
part of a compilation. I usually don't bother, though.

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