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  Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-25 14:58 -0800
    Re: Another Preview Question me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-11-25 23:51 +0000
      Re: Another Preview Question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-26 07:07 +0000
        Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 00:56 -0800
        Re: Another Preview Question Philo D <doozy@earthling.net.invalid> - 2013-11-26 06:24 -0700
          Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 07:47 -0800
          Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-27 14:57 +1300
            Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 18:21 -0800
          Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-27 18:59 +1300
            Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-27 01:00 -0800
              Re: Another Preview Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-11-27 04:08 -0500
                Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-27 23:21 +1300
            Re: Another Preview Question Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-11-27 11:34 -0800
              Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-28 08:53 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-11-27 11:59 -0800
                  Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-28 13:13 +1300
                  Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-28 16:24 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-11-27 23:20 +0000
                  Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-28 13:10 +1300
                    Re: Another Preview Question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-27 19:19 -0500
                Re: Another Preview Question Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-11-28 17:29 +0000
                  Re: Another Preview Question Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2013-11-30 19:37 -0800
              Re: Another Preview Question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-11-27 21:33 +0000
        Re: Another Preview Question Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-26 07:24 -0700
          Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-27 14:57 +1300
            Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 18:18 -0800
            Re: Another Preview Question Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-26 21:12 -0700
              Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-27 23:19 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-27 07:41 -0700
              Re: Another Preview Question me@home.spamsucks.ca (Kiraly) - 2013-11-27 19:54 +0000
                Re: Another Preview Question Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-27 13:51 -0700
                  Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-27 14:40 -0800
                    Re: Another Preview Question Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-11-27 23:22 +0000
                      Re: Another Preview Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-11-27 18:52 -0500
                      Re: Another Preview Question me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-11-28 05:17 +0000
                        Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-28 19:17 +1300
                          Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-28 21:34 +1300
                        Re: Another Preview Question Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-11-28 08:18 +0000
                          Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-28 21:38 +1300
                            Re: Another Preview Question Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-11-28 14:32 +0000
                              Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-29 11:45 +1300
                            Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-29 09:24 +1300
                              Re: Another Preview Question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-28 15:31 -0500
                                Re: Another Preview Question Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-11-28 20:50 +0000
                                  Re: Another Preview Question gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-28 13:39 -0800
                                    Re: Another Preview Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-11-28 18:47 -0500
                                      Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-29 18:33 +1300
                                  Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-29 11:53 +1300
                                    Re: Another Preview Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-12-01 09:55 -0500
                                      Re: Another Preview Question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-01 15:05 -0500
                                  Re: Another Preview Question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-28 21:19 -0500
                                Re: Another Preview Question gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-28 13:39 -0800
                              Re: Another Preview Question gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-28 13:39 -0800
                                Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-29 18:16 +1300
                              Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-29 11:53 +1300
                                Re: Another Preview Question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-11-28 23:09 +0000
                                  Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-29 15:41 +1300
                                    Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-29 18:24 +1300
                                      Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-29 20:03 +1300
                                    Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-29 20:03 +1300
                                Re: Another Preview Question Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-11-28 23:36 +0000
                          Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-29 09:23 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-11-27 17:21 -0500
                  Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-27 14:44 -0800
                    Re: Another Preview Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-11-27 18:21 -0500
                      Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-28 16:24 +1300
                        Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-28 18:10 +1300
                          Re: Another Preview Question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-28 03:01 -0500
                          Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-28 21:34 +1300
                            Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-29 09:21 +1300
                              Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-29 11:53 +1300
                                Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-29 18:14 +1300
                                  Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-29 20:03 +1300
                                    Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-30 09:38 +1300
                      Re: Another Preview Question Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-29 08:14 +0100
                Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-28 13:17 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-28 01:12 +0000
                  Re: Another Preview Question me@home.spamsucks.ca (Kiraly) - 2013-11-28 23:53 +0000
                    Re: Another Preview Question Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-29 08:08 +0100
    Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-26 13:21 +1300
      Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-25 18:12 -0800
        Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-26 16:12 +1300
        Re: Another Preview Question me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-11-26 14:04 +0000
          Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 07:44 -0800
            Re: Another Preview Question Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-26 08:53 -0700
              Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 09:48 -0800
                Re: Another Preview Question Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-26 11:01 -0700
    Re: Another Preview Question Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-26 20:51 +0100
      Re: Another Preview Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-11-26 15:15 -0500
        Re: Another Preview Question <henry@att.net> - 2013-11-26 12:35 -0800
          Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 14:15 -0800
            Re: Another Preview Question Joe Di Domenico <joedid@invalid.com> - 2013-11-26 18:14 -0500
              Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 18:07 -0800
            Re: Another Preview Question dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-11-27 12:21 +1300
              Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 18:16 -0800
                Re: Another Preview Question dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-11-28 13:45 +1300

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#19724

Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> In article <1ld2enk.xfqdrga0d88yN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie
> Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> 
> > Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <l76jls$4u2$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > In comp.sys.mac.system Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > > > > Form and function climaxed at the Mighty Mouse.
> > > > 
> > > > That's not saying much. Apple's mouse offerings have always been rather
> > > > awful.
> > > 
> > > The pea ball on the top of the Mighty Mouse might look stupid but it
> > > allows me to scroll a doc in both directions while moving the mouse
> > > around. Most handy for a window that's in the background while I work
> > > on a foreground window - such as typing into it while being able to
> > > scroll the other one without this focus follows mouse rubbish which
> > > would prevent me from doing that.
> > 
> > It's less efficient (till the scroll ball gets clogged with dust,
> > anyway), but my Logitech g500s' scrollwheel pivots from side to side to
> > scroll horizontally, and never gets stuffed up by dust and debris.
> 
> Looks like it has lots of unwanted buttons etc on it.

They don't get in the way for me. The two to the left of the left mouse
button are for adjusting the mouse's DPI, no custom driver needed (or
you can set them using the custom driver to do other stuff). The three
above where you rest your thumb I use for Exposé functions or game
controls using USB Overdrive or the game's own setup. I've miss-clicked
a button only twice in the year since I got the G500s - a lot less than
the I do on the MS Intellimouse with it's too-large side buttons, the
Apple mice with their squeezes, middle click and 'entire shell is the
button', or did with my now broken DeathAdder, which had it's side
buttons a little too near my thumb.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#19716

In article <1ld2enk.xfqdrga0d88yN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie
Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > In article <l76jls$4u2$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > In comp.sys.mac.system Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > > > Form and function climaxed at the Mighty Mouse.
> > > 
> > > That's not saying much. Apple's mouse offerings have always been rather
> > > awful.
> > 
> > The pea ball on the top of the Mighty Mouse might look stupid but it
> > allows me to scroll a doc in both directions while moving the mouse
> > around. Most handy for a window that's in the background while I work
> > on a foreground window - such as typing into it while being able to
> > scroll the other one without this focus follows mouse rubbish which
> > would prevent me from doing that.
> 
> It's less efficient (till the scroll ball gets clogged with dust,
> anyway), but my Logitech g500s' scrollwheel pivots from side to side to
> scroll horizontally, and never gets stuffed up by dust and debris.

I never came across anyone I work with with a Mighty Mouse that ever
had issues with the scrollball getting clogged up ... you should clean
your desk more often.   ;-)

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#19717

In article <291120130924505701%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> > It's less efficient (till the scroll ball gets clogged with dust,
> > anyway), but my Logitech g500s' scrollwheel pivots from side to side to
> > scroll horizontally, and never gets stuffed up by dust and debris.
> 
> I never came across anyone I work with with a Mighty Mouse that ever
> had issues with the scrollball getting clogged up ... you should clean
> your desk more often.   ;-)

bullshit. those trackpeas get dirty very quickly.

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#19719

In article <281120131531247381%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <291120130924505701%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> 
> > > It's less efficient (till the scroll ball gets clogged with dust,
> > > anyway), but my Logitech g500s' scrollwheel pivots from side to side to
> > > scroll horizontally, and never gets stuffed up by dust and debris.
> > 
> > I never came across anyone I work with with a Mighty Mouse that ever
> > had issues with the scrollball getting clogged up ... you should clean
> > your desk more often.   ;-)
> 
> bullshit. those trackpeas get dirty very quickly.

No, it's not as bad as that. It takes 9 months to a year.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#19723

On 2013-11-28 20:50:22 +0000, Tim Streater said:

>> bullshit. those trackpeas get dirty very quickly.
> 
> No, it's not as bad as that. It takes 9 months to a year.

Clearly it's a matter of if and when you wash your hands.

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#19732

On 13-11-28 16:39, gtr wrote:

>> No, it's not as bad as that. It takes 9 months to a year.
> 
> Clearly it's a matter of if and when you wash your hands.

Or how much you use your Mighty Mouse. It will gunk up if yu are a heavy
user using your computyer all day, and it will last much longer if you
use your computer for only 1 hour per day.

The Mighty Mouse was a nice ergonomic design (except for side buttons
that were really really cheap without any "click" feedback). However, it
was an industrial design failure because it did not last and was not
user serviceable (designed to not be).

The  Magic Mouse is also designed to not be user serviceable. But at
least, it does not gunk up or require maintenance. (except for batteries
since no USB model is available)

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#19739

In article <5297d611$0$47980$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 13-11-28 16:39, gtr wrote:
> 
> >> No, it's not as bad as that. It takes 9 months to a year.
> > 
> > Clearly it's a matter of if and when you wash your hands.
> 
> Or how much you use your Mighty Mouse. It will gunk up if yu are a heavy
> user using your computyer all day, and it will last much longer if you
> use your computer for only 1 hour per day.

In some cases it's also probably also caused by people eating at their
computers. It would also probably be worse in certain climates (for
example, people in humid conditions with sweaty hands).

One place I worked had about 10 of the Mighty Mouse iMacs when they
were first released, and they were in use the all day every week day
(and very occasionally at weekends) with nobody ever having any issue
with them. 




> The Mighty Mouse was a nice ergonomic design (except for side buttons
> that were really really cheap without any "click" feedback). However, it
> was an industrial design failure because it did not last and was not
> user serviceable (designed to not be).
> 
> The  Magic Mouse is also designed to not be user serviceable. But at
> least, it does not gunk up or require maintenance. (except for batteries
> since no USB model is available)

Like ALL mice, the Magic Mouse will "gunk up" on the underside and need
regular cleaning, which is extremely easy to do of course. On occasion
the "gunk" can even block the sensor.

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#19726

Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> In article <281120131531247381%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
> <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > In article <291120130924505701%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
> > <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > > It's less efficient (till the scroll ball gets clogged with dust,
> > > > anyway), but my Logitech g500s' scrollwheel pivots from side to side to
> > > > scroll horizontally, and never gets stuffed up by dust and debris.
> > > 
> > > I never came across anyone I work with with a Mighty Mouse that ever
> > > had issues with the scrollball getting clogged up ... you should clean
> > > your desk more often.   ;-)
> > 
> > bullshit. those trackpeas get dirty very quickly.
> 
> No, it's not as bad as that. It takes 9 months to a year.

Too about four months for my Nana, about three for my Mum.
-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#19773

On 2013.11.28, 17:53 , Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>
>> In article <281120131531247381%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
>> <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <291120130924505701%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
>>> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> It's less efficient (till the scroll ball gets clogged with dust,
>>>>> anyway), but my Logitech g500s' scrollwheel pivots from side to side to
>>>>> scroll horizontally, and never gets stuffed up by dust and debris.
>>>>
>>>> I never came across anyone I work with with a Mighty Mouse that ever
>>>> had issues with the scrollball getting clogged up ... you should clean
>>>> your desk more often.   ;-)
>>>
>>> bullshit. those trackpeas get dirty very quickly.
>>
>> No, it's not as bad as that. It takes 9 months to a year.
>
> Too about four months for my Nana, about three for my Mum.

That's pretty good actually - maybe they didn't use the computer very often.

I never had one go more than a month without jamming up.  Cleaning?  Not 
worth the time.  I used a Logitech wireless mouse for quite a while and 
then a few years ago I bought the trackpad.

I also have a Magic Mouse but don't use it at all.  It's quite heavy and 
not very comfortable in my hands.

The Mighty Mouse is a piece of crap.  And that's being unkind to all the 
good crap out there.

-- 
"The radio was once expected to promote international understanding and 
co-operation;
it has turned out to be a means of insulating one nation from another."
                                                  -George Orwell, 1945

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#19780

In article <s6mdnTBePY9S0AbPnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> I also have a Magic Mouse but don't use it at all.  It's quite heavy and 
> not very comfortable in my hands.

my biggest complaint its shape, especially the edges. haven't they
heard of contouring it?

> The Mighty Mouse is a piece of crap.  And that's being unkind to all the 
> good crap out there.

very true.

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#19734

In article <281120132050222185%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> > > > It's less efficient (till the scroll ball gets clogged with dust,
> > > > anyway), but my Logitech g500s' scrollwheel pivots from side to side to
> > > > scroll horizontally, and never gets stuffed up by dust and debris.
> > > 
> > > I never came across anyone I work with with a Mighty Mouse that ever
> > > had issues with the scrollball getting clogged up ... you should clean
> > > your desk more often.   ;-)
> > 
> > bullshit. those trackpeas get dirty very quickly.
> 
> No, it's not as bad as that. It takes 9 months to a year.

weeks to months for me and most people i know. 

flip it over and rub it on a cleaner soaked cloth was standard
procedure, something that would not have been needed if there was a
simple way to remove the trackpea so it could be cleaned, like there
was to remove the trackball the old non-laser mice. very bad design.

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#19722

On 2013-11-28 20:31:24 +0000, nospam said:

> In article <291120130924505701%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> 
>>> It's less efficient (till the scroll ball gets clogged with dust,
>>> anyway), but my Logitech g500s' scrollwheel pivots from side to side to
>>> scroll horizontally, and never gets stuffed up by dust and debris.
>> 
>> I never came across anyone I work with with a Mighty Mouse that ever
>> had issues with the scrollball getting clogged up ... you should clean
>> your desk more often.   ;-)
> 
> bullshit. those trackpeas get dirty very quickly.

Hmm.  I could save money on beer and vermouth.

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#19721

On 2013-11-28 20:24:50 +0000, Your Name said:

>> It's less efficient (till the scroll ball gets clogged with dust,
>> anyway), but my Logitech g500s' scrollwheel pivots from side to side to
>> scroll horizontally, and never gets stuffed up by dust and debris.

Pour some beer or vermouth in it, that should get it funked.

> I never came across anyone I work with with a Mighty Mouse that ever
> had issues with the scrollball getting clogged up ...

Pour some beer or vermouth in it, that should get it funked.

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#19737

In article <2013112813390437272-xxx@yyyzzz>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> On 2013-11-28 20:24:50 +0000, Your Name said:
> 
> >> It's less efficient (till the scroll ball gets clogged with dust,
> >> anyway), but my Logitech g500s' scrollwheel pivots from side to side to
> >> scroll horizontally, and never gets stuffed up by dust and debris.
> 
> Pour some beer or vermouth in it, that should get it funked.
> 
> > I never came across anyone I work with with a Mighty Mouse that ever
> > had issues with the scrollball getting clogged up ...
> 
> Pour some beer or vermouth in it, that should get it funked.

Which is why you'll see lots of advertising saying "Don't drink and
mouse".   ;-)

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#19725

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> In article <1ld2enk.xfqdrga0d88yN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie
> Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> > Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > > In article <l76jls$4u2$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In comp.sys.mac.system Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > > > > Form and function climaxed at the Mighty Mouse.
> > > > 
> > > > That's not saying much. Apple's mouse offerings have always been rather
> > > > awful.
> > > 
> > > The pea ball on the top of the Mighty Mouse might look stupid but it
> > > allows me to scroll a doc in both directions while moving the mouse
> > > around. Most handy for a window that's in the background while I work
> > > on a foreground window - such as typing into it while being able to
> > > scroll the other one without this focus follows mouse rubbish which
> > > would prevent me from doing that.
> > 
> > It's less efficient (till the scroll ball gets clogged with dust,
> > anyway), but my Logitech g500s' scrollwheel pivots from side to side to
> > scroll horizontally, and never gets stuffed up by dust and debris.
> 
> I never came across anyone I work with with a Mighty Mouse that ever
> had issues with the scrollball getting clogged up ... you should clean
> your desk more often.   ;-)

Happened to me, my mum, my nana (both pretty tidy folk), and numerous
other users - in fact, without exception - every single mighty mouse
user I personally know. So I'm fairly certain it's not just me and the
dust bunnies that roam behind my equipment and under my desk.
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#19729

On 2013-11-28, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <1ld2enk.xfqdrga0d88yN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie
>> Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
>> > Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> > > In article <l76jls$4u2$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > In comp.sys.mac.system Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>> > > > > Form and function climaxed at the Mighty Mouse.
>> > > > 
>> > > > That's not saying much. Apple's mouse offerings have always been rather
>> > > > awful.
>> > > 
>> > > The pea ball on the top of the Mighty Mouse might look stupid but it
>> > > allows me to scroll a doc in both directions while moving the mouse
>> > > around. Most handy for a window that's in the background while I work
>> > > on a foreground window - such as typing into it while being able to
>> > > scroll the other one without this focus follows mouse rubbish which
>> > > would prevent me from doing that.
>> > 
>> > It's less efficient (till the scroll ball gets clogged with dust,
>> > anyway), but my Logitech g500s' scrollwheel pivots from side to side to
>> > scroll horizontally, and never gets stuffed up by dust and debris.
>> 
>> I never came across anyone I work with with a Mighty Mouse that ever
>> had issues with the scrollball getting clogged up ... you should clean
>> your desk more often.   ;-)
>
> Happened to me, my mum, my nana (both pretty tidy folk), and numerous
> other users - in fact, without exception - every single mighty mouse
> user I personally know. So I'm fairly certain it's not just me and the
> dust bunnies that roam behind my equipment and under my desk.

Mine did occasionally get clogged, but clearing it up was relatively
easy most of the time. That said, I did have to take one or two apart to
give them a more thorough cleaning, which was a pain and resulted in the
mouse not being quite as well assembled. Considering the ball is a
physical moving part, I more or less expected it to get clogged up with
dust occasionally. It was truly no big deal to me at the time. *shrug*

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#19735

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2013-11-28, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> > Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <1ld2enk.xfqdrga0d88yN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie
> >> Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> >> > Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> >> > > In article <l76jls$4u2$1@dont-email.me>, Király <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > In comp.sys.mac.system Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> >> > > > > Form and function climaxed at the Mighty Mouse.
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > That's not saying much. Apple's mouse offerings have always been
> >> > > > rather awful.
> >> > > 
> >> > > The pea ball on the top of the Mighty Mouse might look stupid but it
> >> > > allows me to scroll a doc in both directions while moving the mouse
> >> > > around. Most handy for a window that's in the background while I work
> >> > > on a foreground window - such as typing into it while being able to
> >> > > scroll the other one without this focus follows mouse rubbish which
> >> > > would prevent me from doing that.
> >> > 
> >> > It's less efficient (till the scroll ball gets clogged with dust,
> >> > anyway), but my Logitech g500s' scrollwheel pivots from side to side to
> >> > scroll horizontally, and never gets stuffed up by dust and debris.
> >> 
> >> I never came across anyone I work with with a Mighty Mouse that ever
> >> had issues with the scrollball getting clogged up ... you should clean
> >> your desk more often.   ;-)
> >
> > Happened to me, my mum, my nana (both pretty tidy folk), and numerous
> > other users - in fact, without exception - every single mighty mouse
> > user I personally know. So I'm fairly certain it's not just me and the
> > dust bunnies that roam behind my equipment and under my desk.
> 
> Mine did occasionally get clogged, but clearing it up was relatively
> easy most of the time. That said, I did have to take one or two apart to
> give them a more thorough cleaning, which was a pain and resulted in the
> mouse not being quite as well assembled. Considering the ball is a
> physical moving part, I more or less expected it to get clogged up with
> dust occasionally. It was truly no big deal to me at the time. *shrug*

No, I wouldn't say it was a big deal either, but I knew how to deal with
it. People like my Nana found it easier to just get a mouse with a
scrollwheel that can't clog, as I wasn't over often enough to deal with
the issue, and despite being a tidy person, it seemed to happen often to
her.

Anyway, for gaming and other activities I needed a mouse I could lift up
without the button releasing. And with the latest Apple mouse I'm not
into touch. I far prefer my Logitech G500s or the Razer Deathadder
before it's custom driver became utterly boneheaded and required to
access key functions of the mouse.

But each to their own - I know people who love their scrollballs and
don't mind occasional taking apart and cleaning. I liked the puck mouse
that came with my CRT iMacs. Few others seemed to, heh.
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#19738

In article <1ld3som.a7ykf9do4d90N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie
Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 2013-11-28, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> > > Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> In article <1ld2enk.xfqdrga0d88yN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie
> > >> Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> > >> > Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > >> > > In article <l76jls$4u2$1@dont-email.me>, Király
> > >> > > <me@home.spamsucks.ca>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > In comp.sys.mac.system Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > Form and function climaxed at the Mighty Mouse.
> > >> > > > 
> > >> > > > That's not saying much. Apple's mouse offerings have always been
> > >> > > > rather awful.
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > The pea ball on the top of the Mighty Mouse might look stupid but it
> > >> > > allows me to scroll a doc in both directions while moving the mouse
> > >> > > around. Most handy for a window that's in the background while I work
> > >> > > on a foreground window - such as typing into it while being able to
> > >> > > scroll the other one without this focus follows mouse rubbish which
> > >> > > would prevent me from doing that.
> > >> > 
> > >> > It's less efficient (till the scroll ball gets clogged with dust,
> > >> > anyway), but my Logitech g500s' scrollwheel pivots from side to side to
> > >> > scroll horizontally, and never gets stuffed up by dust and debris.
> > >> 
> > >> I never came across anyone I work with with a Mighty Mouse that ever
> > >> had issues with the scrollball getting clogged up ... you should clean
> > >> your desk more often.   ;-)
> > >
> > > Happened to me, my mum, my nana (both pretty tidy folk), and numerous
> > > other users - in fact, without exception - every single mighty mouse
> > > user I personally know. So I'm fairly certain it's not just me and the
> > > dust bunnies that roam behind my equipment and under my desk.
> > 
> > Mine did occasionally get clogged, but clearing it up was relatively
> > easy most of the time. That said, I did have to take one or two apart to
> > give them a more thorough cleaning, which was a pain and resulted in the
> > mouse not being quite as well assembled. Considering the ball is a
> > physical moving part, I more or less expected it to get clogged up with
> > dust occasionally. It was truly no big deal to me at the time. *shrug*
> 
> No, I wouldn't say it was a big deal either, but I knew how to deal with
> it. People like my Nana found it easier to just get a mouse with a
> scrollwheel that can't clog, as I wasn't over often enough to deal with
> the issue, and despite being a tidy person, it seemed to happen often to
> her.

Scroll wheels do clogged as well though. I know a few Windoze users who
have suffered from that problem, which is why the Mighty Mouse always
seemd better ... although personally I can't be bothered with either,
probably because I' so used to my ADB mouse mouse which has neither
(and only one button)..




> Anyway, for gaming and other activities I needed a mouse I could lift up
> without the button releasing. And with the latest Apple mouse I'm not
> into touch. I far prefer my Logitech G500s or the Razer Deathadder
> before it's custom driver became utterly boneheaded and required to
> access key functions of the mouse.

You can turn off the touch functions of the Magic Mouse and just use it
as a normal mouse ... it's been a while since I've used one, but I'm
pretty sure they have proper clickable buttons underneath.





> But each to their own - I know people who love their scrollballs and
> don't mind occasional taking apart and cleaning. I liked the puck mouse
> that came with my CRT iMacs. Few others seemed to, heh.

For some poeple the "puck" mouse was simply too small, which I can
understand.

For others, which I'll never understand how they did it, they somehow
managed to keep twisting the mouse around so it was sideways or
back-to-front, and they claimed they never knew which way it meant to
be, despite it having a cable coming out the back.  :-\

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#19741

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> For others, which I'll never understand how they did it, they somehow
> managed to keep twisting the mouse around so it was sideways or
> back-to-front, and they claimed they never knew which way it meant to
> be, despite it having a cable coming out the back.  :-\

That was the only downside for me, aside from it being the last ball
mouse I used, and thus needed cleaning occasionally of the ball and
rollers - easily done. But it was fairly rare to turn it arround
accidently in my hand, and it scares me to learn there were people who
couldn't figure out which way was up *hides from the world*
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#19740

Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:

> I far prefer my Logitech G500s or the Razer Deathadder
> before it's custom driver became utterly boneheaded and required to
> access key functions of the mouse.

*required cloud access
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