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Tim Streater wrote:
> Office 2008 in use here, doesn't seem too bad but there are some
> oddities [1] about it. Had considered going to Office 2012, but:

The newest release for Mac is called MSOffice 2013. The prior version is 
the ver. 2011.

> 1) Are there fewer odd things than in O-2008?

No, just the opposite. Both ver. 2011 and 2013 are far much worse than 
MSO 2008.

> 2) Do people find they get used to this new-fangled ribbon or does it
> continue to be a monstrosity?

I tried both versions for a couple of months, but never get used to work 
with it, so I went back to my MSO 2008

> 3) Is it possible to dispense with the ribbon in O-2012 altogether and
> just have the traditional look to it all - menus and popup panels?

I don't like the ribbons and along with the monster-menus these take all 
too much space up - even on a 27" monitor. Hereto I find both MSO 2011 
and 2013 way too slow.

> [1] Can't quite put my finger on what I mean by oddities, just that I
> have to be continually careful when doing stuff. Recently I made a
> change to a bar chart and all the bars suddenly became wafer thin and
> barely visible. And if I'm typing text into a spreadsheet cell, I can't
> use the arrow keys to back up in that text. Etc.

Graphs and charts have always been a problem with the newer versions of 
MSO - both Mac and Windows versions. So instead I stick with my MSO 2008 
and have installed the newest Apache OpenOffice 4.0.0. It is quite 
stable though it is a 'release candidate'. I've also found that 
compatibility with Excel now works fairly good. - Earlier versions of 
OpenOffice might lose cross references, but I haven't observed this in 
ver. 4.0 until now. - Don't work with graphs and charts, so here I can't 
tell which is the better one.

I have OpenOffice on both my Macs and my Windows machine and they are 
set up identically in OpenOffice and as close as possible in MSO 2008 
(Mac) and 2003 (Win).

Cheers, Erik Richard

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Office 2012 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-30 12:21 +0000
  Re: Office 2012 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 12:45 +0000
    Re: Office 2012 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
      Re: Office 2012 Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-30 12:09 -0400
        Re: Office 2012 Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-30 11:38 -0500
        Re: Office 2012 PhillipJones <pjonescet@comcast.net> - 2013-10-30 15:39 -0400
          Re: Office 2012 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-30 22:22 +0000
            Re: Office 2012 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-10-31 15:14 -0700
        Re: Office 2012 gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-10-31 15:13 -0700
          Re: Office 2012 Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-31 18:13 -0500
          Re: Office 2012 briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) - 2013-10-31 23:17 +0000
          Re: Office 2012 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-11-01 12:28 +1300
            Re: Office 2012 Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-31 20:22 -0400
          Re: Office 2012 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-01 01:24 +0000
  Re: Office 2012 ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2013-10-30 17:31 +0100
    Re: Office 2012 Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-30 11:42 -0500
  Re: Office 2012 Suze <replytome@thenewsgroup.com> - 2013-10-30 17:33 -0500
    Re: Office 2012 Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-30 22:54 +0000

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