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Re: pointer can't penetrate link area

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject Re: pointer can't penetrate link area
Date 2014-03-08 22:32 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2014-03-08, DushanM <dushanm@nnips.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-03-06, DushanM <dushanm@nnips.net> wrote:
>> > DushanM <dushanm@nnips.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> DushanM <dushanm@nnips.net> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>  <snip>
>> >> > 
>> >> > Oops - I spoke too soon: this weekend the problem was back.  Now I'll
>> >> > have to see whether it was just the restarting that made it go away
>> >> > temporarily, or whether clearing out the cache was involved.  And if the
>> >> > cache, maybe deleting the System cache will fix the problem for good.
>> >> > Also, after the problem disappears I'll be on the lookout for what was
>> >> > just done before it re-appeared.  It'll be Thursday before I can check
>> >> > that, and will report back.
>> >> > 
>> >> > - Dushan
>> >> 
>> >> I did a bit more experimentation and observed this:
>> >> 
>> >> # a restart is all that's needed to make the pointer-freeze problem
>> >>   disappear in my wife's account; no cache deleting is necessary
>> >> 
>> >> # the problem seems to stay gone so long as I stay on my wife's account,
>> >>   tho statistics are still sparse,
>> >> 
>> >> # but when I switch to my account and then back to my wife's, the prob-
>> >>   lem reappears
>> >> 
>> >> # meanwhile, I've done nothing in either account except invoke Firefox
>> >> 
>> >> I'll experiment more this w.e.
>> >> 
>> >> - Dushan
>> >
>> > I've little to add to the above, except that I don't have to do anything
>> > at all to re-introduce the pointer problem in my wife's account except
>> > switch to my account, then immediately back: the problem's there.  So
>> > apparently the switching itself was responsible, probably when account
>> > data was being re-assembled.  So what is done in that process that is
>> > not done during restart (the restart is directly to my wife's account)?
>> 
>> Something must get cached. You previously said that deleting cache files
>> temporarily fixed the issue, right? 
>> 
>> I believe you can find out which cache files are being deleted by
>> examining the system log after deleting them. That may be a place to
>> start. You could try manually (selectively) deleting certain ones or
>> groups of them to see which one(s) are at fault.
>
> Oh, maybe I see what you're driving at: when accounts get switched, data
> in the 'from' account gets cached, then re-introduced when that account
> is re-entered.  And this does not happen - or at least not identically -
> during a restart.  Is that the general idea?

My theory is because deleting caches fixes the problem, that's what is
happening.

> I can certainly try inventorying the cache files before and after a
> restart and an account switch, and comparing.  But then it would seem as
> if the switching operation itself somehow carries the infection, or at
> least activates it, since it wasn't active before the switch after a
> restart.  The mechanism for this is more and more puzzling to me.
>
> I try the cache inspection approach and see what I learn.
>
> Thanks for bearing with me on this problem.

I think if you can figure out which specific cache file(s) are involved,
that will lead you to the root caused (and the solution).

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JR

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pointer can't penetrate link area Dushan Mitrovich <dushanm@nnips.net> - 2014-02-10 17:15 -0700
  Re: pointer can't penetrate link area philo  <philo@privacy.net> - 2014-02-10 18:21 -0600
    Re: pointer can't penetrate link area dushanm@nnips.net (DushanM) - 2014-02-11 12:18 -0700
      Re: pointer can't penetrate link area philo  <philo@privacy.net> - 2014-02-11 16:20 -0600
        Re: pointer can't penetrate link area dushanm@nnips.net (DushanM) - 2014-02-13 19:29 -0700
          Re: pointer can't penetrate link area dushanm@nnips.net (DushanM) - 2014-02-17 17:24 -0700
            Re: pointer can't penetrate link area Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-18 00:59 +0000
              Re: pointer can't penetrate link area dushanm@nnips.net (DushanM) - 2014-02-18 00:10 -0700
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-18 16:44 +0000
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-02-18 12:31 -0500
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-18 19:25 +0000
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area dushanm@nnips.net (DushanM) - 2014-02-22 00:48 -0700
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-22 16:00 +0000
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area dushanm@nnips.net (DushanM) - 2014-02-24 19:45 -0700
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area dushanm@nnips.net (DushanM) - 2014-02-28 12:21 -0700
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area dushanm@nnips.net (DushanM) - 2014-03-06 16:01 -0700
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-07 01:01 +0000
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area dushanm@nnips.net (DushanM) - 2014-03-08 14:50 -0700
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-08 22:32 +0000
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area dushanm@nnips.net (DushanM) - 2014-03-10 18:45 -0600
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-11 01:19 +0000
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area dushanm@nnips.net (DushanM) - 2014-03-18 14:12 -0600
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area dushanm@nnips.net (DushanM) - 2014-03-18 14:12 -0600
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area - SOLVED dushanm@nnips.net (DushanM) - 2014-03-21 21:58 -0600
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area - SOLVED Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-03-22 18:28 +0000
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area - UNSOLVED dushanm@nnips.net (DushanM) - 2014-03-24 20:35 -0600
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area - RE-SOLVED dushanm@nnips.net (DushanM) - 2014-04-03 13:37 -0600
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area - RE-SOLVED Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-03 21:10 +0000
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area - RE-SOLVED dushanm@nnips.net (DushanM) - 2014-04-09 16:09 -0600
                Re: pointer can't penetrate link area dushanm@nnips.net (DushanM) - 2014-02-22 00:47 -0700
  Re: pointer can't penetrate link area dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-02-11 11:29 +1100

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