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Re: Another Preview Question

From Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Another Preview Question
Date 2013-11-30 09:38 +1300
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID <301120130938094582%YourName@YourISP.com> (permalink)
References (12 earlier) <1ld2efw.18f6tgu1bh38l9N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> <291120130921062246%YourName@YourISP.com> <1ld3i3l.nt49zj1sbf2bvN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> <291120131814373061%YourName@YourISP.com> <1ld44zu.1haj7pr1taxy5xN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>

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In article <1ld44zu.1haj7pr1taxy5xN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie
Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > In article <1ld3i3l.nt49zj1sbf2bvN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie
> > Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> > > Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <1ld2efw.18f6tgu1bh38l9N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie
> > > > Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> > > > > Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> > > > > > In article <1ld201t.1x6gyf8pl0m0tN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>,
> > > > > > Jamie
> > > > > > Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> > > > > > > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 13-11-27 17:44, Savageduck wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Would Preview.App taken from Snow Leopard work in Maveriks ?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Hmmm??
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Preview.app in snow leopard has the ability to use the "Hand" to
> > > > > > > > drag
> > > > > > > > content too bit to fit in a window.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > So, if you were to take that "file" (a bundle/folder full of
> > > > > > > > files) and put it in the Applications folder in Maveriks, would
> it
> > > > > > > > work ? And if so, you would then have the ability to use the
> hand
> > > > > > > > which is missing from the Maveriks version.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This kind of thing often used to work in classic MacOS, but
> > > > > > > nowadays
> > > > > > > almost all Apple apps require other parts of the OS to work, and
> > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > they're not present or are changed, then it's not going to work.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It didn't always work in classic Mac OS either. For example, the
> > > > > > game
> > > > > > Lemmings played fine in early versions, but at some point Apple made
> > > > > > changes to the OS and the game lost it's ability to play any of the
> > > > > > sounds.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I was referring to actual Apple made apps and applets bundled into the
> > > > > OS, not apps that just work on Macs. Though there was a fix for
> > > > > Lemmings
> > > > > that enabled sound on MacOS up to 8.6 (and possibly 9, but I never
> > > > > tried
> > > > > it under 9).
> > > > 
> > > > It doesn't really matter who made the application, Lemming was just an
> > > > example. An old Apple application that played sound using the same
> > > > method as Lemmings would also fail on the newer operating system. When
> > > > Apple removes something from the OS, it afects all of the old
> > > > applications that relied on that particular system resource.
> > > 
> > > Yeah but I was talking about parts of System 7.1 working in 7.6 and
> > > parts of 8 working in 8.6. Not apps like AppleWorks or Filemaker, but
> > > the apps/applets/control panels/extensions that were part of the system
> > > in classic days. I wish I could remember some examples... it's been so
> > > long. But I recall mixing and matching parts of the older system
> > > software fairly often for various reasons, throughout my years of
> > > classic MacOS use.
> > 
> > You can still do that with Mac OS X. For example, when I upgrade this
> > computer to Mac OS X 8.2, the new calculator was hopelessly slow to
> > open up, so I dragged the old calculator from the backup copy of Mac OS
> > X 10.1 and it works fine.
> > 
> > Problems occur when Apple makes major changes to parts of the operating
> > system which an old application relies on - that happened in classic
> > and Mac OS X, as well as Windows and any other operating system. The
> > obvious example is commercial games of course, which quite often fall
> > over trying to run on a newer operating system.
> 
> Well I'm guessing the calculator app doesn't call many rapidly updated
> libraries and APIs. But Safari OTOH...
> 
> Still - I did not know that about Calculator - interesting! :-)

The 10.1 Calculator is a nice, quick, simple function calculator for
adding / subtracting / multiplying / dividing numbers.

The 10.2 Calculator on the other hand is an rather over-bloated and
slow, with scientific and paper tape options, conversions, etc.

I keep both versions in the Applications folder (with the 10.2 one
renamed as "Calculator Scientific), but most of the time I need it is
when needing to do simple calculations, so the 10.1 version lives in
the Dock.

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Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-25 14:58 -0800
  Re: Another Preview Question me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-11-25 23:51 +0000
    Re: Another Preview Question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-26 07:07 +0000
      Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 00:56 -0800
      Re: Another Preview Question Philo D <doozy@earthling.net.invalid> - 2013-11-26 06:24 -0700
        Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 07:47 -0800
        Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-27 14:57 +1300
          Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 18:21 -0800
        Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-27 18:59 +1300
          Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-27 01:00 -0800
            Re: Another Preview Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-11-27 04:08 -0500
              Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-27 23:21 +1300
          Re: Another Preview Question Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-11-27 11:34 -0800
            Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-28 08:53 +1300
              Re: Another Preview Question Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2013-11-27 11:59 -0800
                Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-28 13:13 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-28 16:24 +1300
              Re: Another Preview Question Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-11-27 23:20 +0000
                Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-28 13:10 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-27 19:19 -0500
              Re: Another Preview Question Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-11-28 17:29 +0000
                Re: Another Preview Question Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2013-11-30 19:37 -0800
            Re: Another Preview Question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-11-27 21:33 +0000
      Re: Another Preview Question Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-26 07:24 -0700
        Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-27 14:57 +1300
          Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 18:18 -0800
          Re: Another Preview Question Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-26 21:12 -0700
            Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-27 23:19 +1300
              Re: Another Preview Question Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-27 07:41 -0700
            Re: Another Preview Question me@home.spamsucks.ca (Kiraly) - 2013-11-27 19:54 +0000
              Re: Another Preview Question Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-11-27 13:51 -0700
                Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-27 14:40 -0800
                Re: Another Preview Question Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-11-27 23:22 +0000
                Re: Another Preview Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-11-27 18:52 -0500
                Re: Another Preview Question me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-11-28 05:17 +0000
                Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-28 19:17 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-28 21:34 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-11-28 08:18 +0000
                Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-28 21:38 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-11-28 14:32 +0000
                Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-29 11:45 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-29 09:24 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-28 15:31 -0500
                Re: Another Preview Question Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-11-28 20:50 +0000
                Re: Another Preview Question gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-28 13:39 -0800
                Re: Another Preview Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-11-28 18:47 -0500
                Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-29 18:33 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-29 11:53 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-12-01 09:55 -0500
                Re: Another Preview Question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-12-01 15:05 -0500
                Re: Another Preview Question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-28 21:19 -0500
                Re: Another Preview Question gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-28 13:39 -0800
                Re: Another Preview Question gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-28 13:39 -0800
                Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-29 18:16 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-29 11:53 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-11-28 23:09 +0000
                Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-29 15:41 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-29 18:24 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-29 20:03 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-29 20:03 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-11-28 23:36 +0000
                Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-29 09:23 +1300
              Re: Another Preview Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-11-27 17:21 -0500
                Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-27 14:44 -0800
                Re: Another Preview Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-11-27 18:21 -0500
                Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-28 16:24 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-28 18:10 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-28 03:01 -0500
                Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-28 21:34 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-29 09:21 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-29 11:53 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-29 18:14 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-11-29 20:03 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-30 09:38 +1300
                Re: Another Preview Question Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-29 08:14 +0100
              Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-28 13:17 +1300
              Re: Another Preview Question Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-28 01:12 +0000
                Re: Another Preview Question me@home.spamsucks.ca (Kiraly) - 2013-11-28 23:53 +0000
                Re: Another Preview Question Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-29 08:08 +0100
  Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-26 13:21 +1300
    Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-25 18:12 -0800
      Re: Another Preview Question Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-26 16:12 +1300
      Re: Another Preview Question me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2013-11-26 14:04 +0000
        Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 07:44 -0800
          Re: Another Preview Question Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-26 08:53 -0700
            Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 09:48 -0800
              Re: Another Preview Question Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-26 11:01 -0700
  Re: Another Preview Question Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-26 20:51 +0100
    Re: Another Preview Question JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-11-26 15:15 -0500
      Re: Another Preview Question <henry@att.net> - 2013-11-26 12:35 -0800
        Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 14:15 -0800
          Re: Another Preview Question Joe Di Domenico <joedid@invalid.com> - 2013-11-26 18:14 -0500
            Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 18:07 -0800
          Re: Another Preview Question dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-11-27 12:21 +1300
            Re: Another Preview Question Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-11-26 18:16 -0800
              Re: Another Preview Question dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-11-28 13:45 +1300

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