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Re: Newsreaders

From Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject Re: Newsreaders
Date 2013-10-28 08:17 -0500
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <281020130817584031%lloydp21@live.com> (permalink)
References (4 earlier) <l4kgnt$g8l$1@dont-email.me> <slrnl6rhud.rkg.g.kreme@mbp55.local> <l4kk25$uj3$1@dont-email.me> <slrnl6rn53.su3.g.kreme@mbp55.local> <1lbgo7j.5ek8cfhnma19N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>

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In article <1lbgo7j.5ek8cfhnma19N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>, Jamie
Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:

> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> > In message <l4kk25$uj3$1@dont-email.me> 
> >   Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> > > On 2013-10-28 02:11:25 +0000, Lewis said:
> > 
> > >> In message <l4kgnt$g8l$1@dont-email.me>
> > >>   Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> > >>> On 2013-10-28 01:26:02 +0000, Lewis said:
> > >> 
> > >>>> In message <271020132342542235%timstreater@greenbee.net>
> > >>>> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> > >>>>> Not impressed by the text-only doccy. Why didn't he do it properly
> > >>>>> (in,
> > >>>>> say, Pages) and issue a PDF?
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Because he wasn't able to find someone else who'd already done it that
> > >>>> he could steal from.
> > >> 
> > >>> Enough of that crap!  We went through this whole thing years ago.
> > >> 
> > >> I don't understand you're point. Does it stop being relevant that he
> > >> stole code and has spend 15 years lying about it?
> > 
> > > The point was made years ago and caused lots of vitriol right here.  Do
> > > we need another chance for you and others on your side of that fence to
> > > take all the shots again?
> > 
> > > I don't think so.
> > 
> > >> 
> > >> He's also a slimy sniveling asshole, but that's an entirely different
> > >> issue.
> > 
> > > True, it is a different issue.  But then who actually gives a damn 
> > > about the personality or lack of, of the developer?
> > 
> > When the personality disorder determines the pace of upgrades and the
> > support one might get, it matters quite a lot.
> > 
> > When the developer spends many years whining and then failing to
> > deliver promised updates, it matters quite a lot.
> > 
> > The fact of the matter is that I've never used Thoth, but I am well
> > aware of it, and of Brian and of the constant stream of shit that has
> > issued from him over the last about 15 years. Because of this, when
> > uniformed people mention they are planning on using Thoth (or worse,
> > pay for it) I am quick to dissuade them as much as I possibly can.
> 
> Brian is a flake, that much is for sure. I don't like paying for
> shareware that might suddenly end up unsupported because the dev has a
> tantrum. Regardless Thoth isn't a bad client - in fact it's quite a good
> one, and in the final analysis has easily been worth the price for
> anyone who paid. It just comes from a bad developer who does himself no
> favours.

And I would fully agree with that assessment!  It is a great usenet
client produced by a guy that has managed to piss off a lot of people
along the way!

-- 
Lloyd

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Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-27 09:41 -0700
  Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 11:56 -0500
  Re: Newsreaders Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-10-27 13:01 -0400
    Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 12:36 -0500
      Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 14:41 -0500
        Re: Newsreaders snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2013-10-27 19:58 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 15:05 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2013-10-27 20:42 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2013-10-28 10:23 +1100
  Re: Newsreaders Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-27 19:57 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2013-10-27 20:03 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-28 10:58 +1300
        Re: Newsreaders for Mac OS X Mavericks snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2013-10-27 22:11 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders for Mac OS X Mavericks Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2013-10-27 23:31 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders for Mac OS X Mavericks »Q« <boxcars@gmx.net> - 2013-10-27 19:46 -0500
            Re: Newsreaders for Mac OS X Mavericks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-01 16:55 +0100
    Re: Newsreaders gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-10-27 19:16 -0700
      Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:21 -0500
    Re: Newsreaders Bob Harris <nospam.News.Bob@remove.Smith-Harris.us> - 2013-10-28 03:05 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-28 05:05 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 12:32 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-28 12:48 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 13:45 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-28 15:19 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-28 15:26 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-28 16:17 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-28 21:19 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 22:48 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-29 07:44 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-29 23:19 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 05:00 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-29 07:47 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 09:03 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-29 09:42 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 20:47 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 04:56 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-29 21:43 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-01 16:48 +0100
                Re: Newsreaders Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2013-11-02 11:14 -0400
    Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-30 20:11 +0100
      Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-30 14:45 -0500
  Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-28 10:58 +1300
  Re: Newsreaders M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-10-27 19:24 -0400
    Re: Newsreaders Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-27 23:42 +0000
      Re: Newsreaders M-M <nospam.m-m@ny.more> - 2013-10-27 20:09 -0400
        Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 19:16 -0500
        Re: Newsreaders Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-28 00:16 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:11 -0500
          Re: Newsreaders Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-28 13:54 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 09:01 -0500
              Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-28 08:51 -0700
              Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 09:09 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 20:44 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-30 20:04 +0100
                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-31 18:49 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-30 20:02 +0100
                Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-30 14:44 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-31 08:52 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 12:56 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-30 20:18 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 23:24 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-31 05:25 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-31 17:18 +0100
                Re: Newsreaders Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-10-31 17:57 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-31 18:22 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Jesse <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> - 2013-10-31 14:48 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-31 21:26 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-28 08:44 -0700
      Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 01:26 +0000
        Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 21:04 -0500
          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 02:11 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-27 22:01 -0500
              Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 03:40 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-28 17:26 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:17 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:16 -0500
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-28 13:39 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-28 08:43 -0500
  Re: Newsreaders Ted Lee <tmplee@mr.net> - 2013-10-27 20:30 -0500
    Re: Newsreaders AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2013-10-28 11:02 -0400
  Re: Newsreaders Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-10-28 00:48 -0400
    Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 15:16 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-30 19:39 +0100
  Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-28 15:16 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-28 15:21 +0000
    Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <email@michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-28 08:31 -0700
      Re: Newsreaders Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2013-10-28 08:57 -0700
        Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-29 05:25 +1300
        Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 09:22 +1300
        Re: Newsreaders Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2013-10-28 21:22 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 13:29 +1300
            Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-29 01:43 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 05:04 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 18:25 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 01:33 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 05:37 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-29 19:25 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 07:25 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-29 04:07 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Martin Τrautmann <t-usenet@gmx.net> - 2013-10-29 09:00 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 10:24 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-30 19:33 +0100
                Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 09:26 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-30 19:32 +0100
                Re: Newsreaders Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-30 12:00 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 19:43 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-10-30 21:53 -0400
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-29 21:35 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2013-10-29 16:28 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 13:33 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders bill van <billvan@delete.shaw.ca> - 2013-10-29 23:14 -0700
                Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 21:43 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 12:39 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 09:31 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-31 08:52 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 19:36 +1300
                Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 12:42 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-30 19:23 +0100
                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-31 18:49 +0000
                Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-30 14:39 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
            Re: Newsreaders Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-10-29 17:01 +0000
              Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-30 09:29 +1300
        Re: Newsreaders "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2013-10-30 16:44 -0400
          Re: Newsreaders Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-30 23:22 +0000
          Re: Newsreaders Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-31 13:15 +1300
  Re: Newsreaders "J.P. Kuypers" <Jean-Pierre.Kuypers@adresse.invalid> - 2013-10-29 10:10 +0100
    Re: Newsreaders Lloyd <lloydp21@live.com> - 2013-10-29 08:36 -0500
      Re: Newsreaders jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2013-10-30 10:25 +1300
    Re: Newsreaders spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2013-11-05 20:31 +0100

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