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Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone?

From Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone?
Date 2025-08-12 14:37 -0700
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On 2025-08-12 12:50, -hh wrote:
> On 8/12/25 14:07, Alan wrote:
>> On 2025-08-12 10:49, -hh wrote:
>>> On 8/12/25 09:43, badgolferman wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>> Sounds like what you're saying that a T-Mobile salesman deceived you.
>>>
>>> In any event, there's been different wattage output chargers for 
>>> awhile, and 'fast' chargers really only make a difference if one 
>>> isn't charging overnight.
>>
>> Precisely. Charging only needs to be fast enough to charge the device 
>> to the level required for an individual's use case.
>>
>> For me, that's an 80% charge I can easily get overnight which will 
>> then let me use my iPhone all day.
> 
> Can't say that I've never had a phone at just 80% in the AM, unless the 
> 'optimized' charging had failed.  In any event, the original 5W Apple 
> iPhone charger had quite a bit of appeal to me for its tiny size when I 
> was traveling a lot on business.  With the rise of the iPad joining 
> along a lot of time, a more powerful charger became a 'necessary evil', 
> although I have found Anker has nice GaN based chargers; their 20W is 
> the same cube as the original 5W Apples.  I don't particularly care for 
> Apple's current 12W charger, as its ~twice the cube of the original 5W 
> charger and is pretty hefty for that output level: for the same cube, 
> one can get Anker's 323 33W charger with two output ports (the one I 
> mentioned that's presently on sale for US$15).

Oh, I don't think I explained very well.

I make use of the latest version of iOS's setting to deliberately 
restrict charging to 80%.

As far as chargers, I've got Apple's 2-port 35W charger, which I 
purchased along with my M3 MacBook Air back in March 2024.

It's not as small as the 5W Apple charger (and therefore your 20W 
Anker), but it's still pretty compact at just under 2"x2"x1" (or 
49.5mmx49.5mmx27mm).

When I'm traveling with all my devices, I'll bring along one of the old 
5W cubes.

:-)

>>> When that news came out, I was a bit perturbed about it, but in 
>>> retrospect, it was because I didn't have a plethora of spare chargers 
>>> and cables yet.  Similarly, I've stopped worrying about paying $10 
>>> for a cable, especially since I've stopped buying the lousy Apple OEM 
>>> ones which have a poor stress relief design...I can now pretty easily 
>>> get a year out of one cable before it starts to fail.
>>
>> This is one thing I've never understood.
>>
>> I get years out of cables, pretty much regardless of the design of 
>> their strain relief.
> 
> I suspect some of it is that I sometimes will use a device when its 
> plugged in (especially now an iPad); the failure point is always at the 
> end of the stress relief.  Even so, I'd say that this is probably only 
> 20% of my utilization time, and as I alluded above, using a good 3rd 
> party brand has significantly reduced my cable failure rate.

That's probably a big part of it. I occasionally use my iPad in bed with 
the cable plugged in when I've forgotten to charge (which it needs quite 
a bit more frequently, because it's ancient--and all this reminds me 
that I should plug it in right now, so that I can use it without a cable 
when reading in bed tonight. :-) )

> ...and checking my Amazon history, the cable that I noticed that's 
> starting to fail (replacement now on order) has been in regular use 
> since Dec 2021...so a longer lifespan than I was otherwise recalling.

I the last cable that I can remember dying was the charger for my 2015 
13" MacBook Pro. It lasted at least 7 years as the one I most abused 
(because it was at my feet and I tripped on it now and then).

>>>
>>> FWIW, what I'm starting to do now...~1" long adapter plugs...[and]
>>> look for ones which include tiny little lanyards that
>>> allow them to be attached to the cable so as to not get lost. 
>>
>> That last is very useful!
> 
> Indeed.  I've also been using 'wired' bluetooth ear buds for a semi- 
> similar reason:  seems that my left ear canal has a weird turn to it 
> that reliably drops earbuds, so having them be on a lanyard of sorts 
> prevents their loss.
My latest set of AirPods with the right size tips has mostly eliminated 
that issue, but I can still empathize a little. The ear canal 
self-lubricates.

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Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-11 19:48 +0000
  Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-11 20:38 +0000
    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-11 22:16 +0000
      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Rick <Rick@nospam.net> - 2025-08-12 09:56 -0400
        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-12 09:59 -0400
          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 06:58 +0000
    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-11 17:28 -0700
      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-12 01:01 +0000
        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 01:34 +0000
        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-12 19:26 +1200
          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-12 20:59 +0000
            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-12 21:22 +0000
              Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 14:40 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-12 21:41 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 15:22 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 23:06 +0000
            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 06:58 +0000
              Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 07:21 -0700
              Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-13 19:06 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-13 15:51 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-13 21:21 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 14:55 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-13 18:38 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 04:43 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:41 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 22:19 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-13 18:32 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 15:37 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-14 08:30 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 17:41 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:44 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 18:48 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 19:36 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 12:49 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 08:59 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-14 16:07 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 13:16 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 20:43 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 14:07 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-15 08:46 +1200
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 17:11 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 10:16 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 11:14 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 21:13 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 10:11 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-15 10:25 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 11:19 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 14:55 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 12:01 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-15 16:38 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 13:48 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-15 16:37 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-16 10:04 +1200
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-16 13:37 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 22:37 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-16 15:50 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 06:45 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-18 08:06 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 09:53 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-18 08:03 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 11:19 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-18 08:24 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-18 17:23 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-18 19:57 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-19 11:00 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-18 15:43 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-18 15:45 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-18 13:26 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-19 10:54 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-18 21:58 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 20:04 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2025-08-18 09:52 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-16 18:35 +1200
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 15:38 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-18 08:27 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 10:16 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-15 08:44 +1200
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 14:07 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-14 18:12 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 17:06 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 04:42 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 08:23 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 16:00 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 17:42 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:44 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 18:46 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 22:47 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 16:20 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-14 23:47 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 23:54 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 17:04 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 14:47 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 15:55 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-14 17:40 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-14 10:44 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-08-14 18:45 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 08:29 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-15 14:06 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 10:13 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-15 14:06 -0400
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-15 11:31 -0700
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 03:12 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-15 20:53 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 03:12 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-16 09:36 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-16 15:37 +0000
                Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-17 01:16 +0000
    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-12 09:18 -0400
      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-08-12 09:43 -0400
        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 07:02 -0700
        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-12 13:49 -0400
          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 11:07 -0700
            Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-12 15:50 -0400
              Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-12 14:37 -0700
          Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 19:17 +0000
      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-12 19:17 +0000
        Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 07:36 -0700
  Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-18 07:25 -0400
    Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-08-18 08:23 -0400
      Re: Thought Question: How many times do Apple owners buy each iPhone? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-08-18 15:42 +0000
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