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Is it WordPad or the hardware?

Started by"Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca>
First post2013-05-28 14:02 -0400
Last post2013-06-04 06:12 +0400
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  Is it WordPad or the hardware? "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> - 2013-05-28 14:02 -0400
    Re: Is it WordPad or the hardware? "P.V." <ano@nymo.us> - 2013-05-29 01:26 +0300
    Re: Is it WordPad or the hardware? wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2013-05-29 14:15 +0000
    Re: Is it WordPad or the hardware? Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2013-06-02 03:06 +0400
      Re: Is it WordPad or the hardware? "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 19:29 +1200
        Re: Is it WordPad or the hardware? Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2013-06-03 06:59 +0400
          Re: Is it WordPad or the hardware? Sjouke Burry <s@b> - 2013-06-03 03:35 +0000
          Re: Is it WordPad or the hardware? "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 21:45 +1200
            Re: Is it WordPad or the hardware? Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2013-06-04 06:12 +0400

#1967 — Is it WordPad or the hardware?

From"Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca>
Date2013-05-28 14:02 -0400
SubjectIs it WordPad or the hardware?
Message-ID<ko2s4a$h9e$1@speranza.aioe.org>
The cursor jumps (from the end point of typing to
wherever the mouse last left the cursor) in Wordpad
on both the ancient Toshiba Satellite laptop and the
newish Gateway, so that instead of finishing the word
I am typing (blind, being a touch-typist) the last letters
pop up on a different line, perhaps in the middle of an
unrelated word   This never happens on the desktops,
not even when writing in Wordpad.

Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware
controllers for the mouse on laptops?

-- 
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

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#1968

From"P.V." <ano@nymo.us>
Date2013-05-29 01:26 +0300
Message-ID<ko3amh$l3c$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1967
"Don Phillipson"  kirjoitti viestissä:ko2s4a$h9e$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> The cursor jumps (from the end point of typing to
> wherever the mouse last left the cursor) in Wordpad
> on both the ancient Toshiba Satellite laptop and the
> newish Gateway, so that instead of finishing the word
> I am typing (blind, being a touch-typist) the last letters
> pop up on a different line, perhaps in the middle of an
> unrelated word   This never happens on the desktops,
> not even when writing in Wordpad.
>
> Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware
> controllers for the mouse on laptops?

Sounds familiar. Same has happened to me too; turned out on one laptop I 
kept accidentally hitting the pointing stick when pressing keys around it 
(on some laptops tapping the stick is interpreted as a click by default). On 
another occasion part of hand sneaked on the touchpad, doing random stuff 
there. Could it be something like this in your case too?

P.V.

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#1973

Fromwrat@panix.com (the wharf rat)
Date2013-05-29 14:15 +0000
Message-ID<ko52ij$r35$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#1967
In article <ko2s4a$h9e$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
Don Phillipson <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote:
>
>Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware
>controllers for the mouse on laptops?
>

	Your palm is grazing the touchpad as you type.


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#1976

FromHappy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*->
Date2013-06-02 03:06 +0400
Message-ID<66vkq8t0onli50ppv9opoi16cj2rffr8ek@4ax.com>
In reply to#1967
On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:02:34 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
<e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote:

>The cursor jumps (from the end point of typing to
>wherever the mouse last left the cursor) in Wordpad
>on both the ancient Toshiba Satellite laptop and the
>newish Gateway, so that instead of finishing the word
>I am typing (blind, being a touch-typist) the last letters
>pop up on a different line, perhaps in the middle of an
>unrelated word   This never happens on the desktops,
>not even when writing in Wordpad.
>
>Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware
>controllers for the mouse on laptops?

What you describe is a pest. It is caused by an utmost idiotic shit we
are confronted with: the touchpads. The only really useful tool for
navigating is a trackball. But as it is a mechanical device,
manufacturers by all means try to avoid the. IBM had a miniature
"joystick", which somehow works. That thing is easier to produce than a
trackball. A touchpad is much simpler, and so it is cheaper. We are
defrauded with cheap dreck.

On some notebooks, netbookds, etc the touchpads can bw switched off by a
special command sequence entered via control keys. On some, but not on
all. In that case, there is only one way to kill that damned stuff: open
the computer and pull out the connectors of the touchpad. 

If you do not want to open the computer, the next solution is to put
something over the touchpad. I found some layers of "post-it" sheets
usefull since they have (a bit of) adhesive to glue them to the touchpad
surface. As the touchpads use capacitance for physical action, the added
layers of paper reduce that sufficiently. 
-- 

Crowd-funding is for money, crowd-publishing is for mankind.

http://www.supermanpost.com/

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#1977

From"~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com>
Date2013-06-02 19:29 +1200
Message-ID<koes01$u1r$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1976
Somewhere on teh intarwebs Happy Oyster wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:02:34 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
> <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote:
>
>> The cursor jumps (from the end point of typing to
>> wherever the mouse last left the cursor) in Wordpad
>> on both the ancient Toshiba Satellite laptop and the
>> newish Gateway, so that instead of finishing the word
>> I am typing (blind, being a touch-typist) the last letters
>> pop up on a different line, perhaps in the middle of an
>> unrelated word   This never happens on the desktops,
>> not even when writing in Wordpad.
>>
>> Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware
>> controllers for the mouse on laptops?
>
> What you describe is a pest. It is caused by an utmost idiotic shit we
> are confronted with: the touchpads. The only really useful tool for
> navigating is a trackball. But as it is a mechanical device,
> manufacturers by all means try to avoid the. IBM had a miniature
> "joystick", which somehow works. That thing is easier to produce than
> a trackball. A touchpad is much simpler, and so it is cheaper. We are
> defrauded with cheap dreck.
>
> On some notebooks, netbookds, etc the touchpads can bw switched off
> by a special command sequence entered via control keys. On some, but
> not on all. In that case, there is only one way to kill that damned
> stuff: open the computer and pull out the connectors of the touchpad.
>
> If you do not want to open the computer, the next solution is to put
> something over the touchpad. I found some layers of "post-it" sheets
> usefull since they have (a bit of) adhesive to glue them to the
> touchpad surface. As the touchpads use capacitance for physical
> action, the added layers of paper reduce that sufficiently.

If you're using Windows it's quite easy to disable the touchpad in Device 
Manager if it bothers you that much. Only takes 20 seconds, better than 
wallpapering your palm rest.
-- 
/Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a 
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1) 

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#1978

FromHappy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*->
Date2013-06-03 06:59 +0400
Message-ID<pg1oq81a88vcqerjt40km2oj15bjob0p90@4ax.com>
In reply to#1977
On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:29:13 +1200, "~misfit~"
<shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

>Somewhere on teh intarwebs Happy Oyster wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:02:34 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
>> <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> The cursor jumps (from the end point of typing to
>>> wherever the mouse last left the cursor) in Wordpad
>>> on both the ancient Toshiba Satellite laptop and the
>>> newish Gateway, so that instead of finishing the word
>>> I am typing (blind, being a touch-typist) the last letters
>>> pop up on a different line, perhaps in the middle of an
>>> unrelated word   This never happens on the desktops,
>>> not even when writing in Wordpad.
>>>
>>> Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware
>>> controllers for the mouse on laptops?
>>
>> What you describe is a pest. It is caused by an utmost idiotic shit we
>> are confronted with: the touchpads. The only really useful tool for
>> navigating is a trackball. But as it is a mechanical device,
>> manufacturers by all means try to avoid the. IBM had a miniature
>> "joystick", which somehow works. That thing is easier to produce than
>> a trackball. A touchpad is much simpler, and so it is cheaper. We are
>> defrauded with cheap dreck.
>>
>> On some notebooks, netbookds, etc the touchpads can bw switched off
>> by a special command sequence entered via control keys. On some, but
>> not on all. In that case, there is only one way to kill that damned
>> stuff: open the computer and pull out the connectors of the touchpad.
>>
>> If you do not want to open the computer, the next solution is to put
>> something over the touchpad. I found some layers of "post-it" sheets
>> usefull since they have (a bit of) adhesive to glue them to the
>> touchpad surface. As the touchpads use capacitance for physical
>> action, the added layers of paper reduce that sufficiently.
>
>If you're using Windows it's quite easy to disable the touchpad in Device 
>Manager if it bothers you that much. Only takes 20 seconds, better than 
>wallpapering your palm rest.

I am using Linux. I don't know if that has some ways to disable it.
Also, I use a bunch of systems on 1 hardware. So disabling it at the
hardware/firmware level is best. 

Where in the devide manager is the touchpad part located? 
-- 

Crowd-funding is for money, crowd-publishing is for mankind.

http://www.supermanpost.com/

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#1979

FromSjouke Burry <s@b>
Date2013-06-03 03:35 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA1D43874223F9sjoukeburrysoesterbe@213.75.12.10>
In reply to#1978
Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> wrote in
news:pg1oq81a88vcqerjt40km2oj15bjob0p90@4ax.com: 

> On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:29:13 +1200, "~misfit~"
> <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>Somewhere on teh intarwebs Happy Oyster wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:02:34 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
>>> <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The cursor jumps (from the end point of typing to
>>>> wherever the mouse last left the cursor) in Wordpad
>>>> on both the ancient Toshiba Satellite laptop and the
>>>> newish Gateway, so that instead of finishing the word
>>>> I am typing (blind, being a touch-typist) the last letters
>>>> pop up on a different line, perhaps in the middle of an
>>>> unrelated word   This never happens on the desktops,
>>>> not even when writing in Wordpad.
>>>>
>>>> Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware
>>>> controllers for the mouse on laptops?
>>>
>>> What you describe is a pest. It is caused by an utmost idiotic shit
>>> we are confronted with: the touchpads. The only really useful tool
>>> for navigating is a trackball. But as it is a mechanical device,
>>> manufacturers by all means try to avoid the. IBM had a miniature
>>> "joystick", which somehow works. That thing is easier to produce
>>> than a trackball. A touchpad is much simpler, and so it is cheaper.
>>> We are defrauded with cheap dreck.
>>>
>>> On some notebooks, netbookds, etc the touchpads can bw switched off
>>> by a special command sequence entered via control keys. On some, but
>>> not on all. In that case, there is only one way to kill that damned
>>> stuff: open the computer and pull out the connectors of the
>>> touchpad. 
>>>
>>> If you do not want to open the computer, the next solution is to put
>>> something over the touchpad. I found some layers of "post-it" sheets
>>> usefull since they have (a bit of) adhesive to glue them to the
>>> touchpad surface. As the touchpads use capacitance for physical
>>> action, the added layers of paper reduce that sufficiently.
>>
>>If you're using Windows it's quite easy to disable the touchpad in
>>Device Manager if it bothers you that much. Only takes 20 seconds,
>>better than wallpapering your palm rest.
> 
> I am using Linux. I don't know if that has some ways to disable it.
> Also, I use a bunch of systems on 1 hardware. So disabling it at the
> hardware/firmware level is best. 
> 
> Where in the devide manager is the touchpad part located? 

At least with one laptop, I could disable the onboard mouse(the pad)
in the bios.

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#1980

From"~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com>
Date2013-06-03 21:45 +1200
Message-ID<kohobt$kqp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1978
Somewhere on teh intarwebs Happy Oyster wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:29:13 +1200, "~misfit~"
> <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Happy Oyster wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:02:34 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
>>> <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The cursor jumps (from the end point of typing to
>>>> wherever the mouse last left the cursor) in Wordpad
>>>> on both the ancient Toshiba Satellite laptop and the
>>>> newish Gateway, so that instead of finishing the word
>>>> I am typing (blind, being a touch-typist) the last letters
>>>> pop up on a different line, perhaps in the middle of an
>>>> unrelated word   This never happens on the desktops,
>>>> not even when writing in Wordpad.
>>>>
>>>> Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware
>>>> controllers for the mouse on laptops?
>>>
>>> What you describe is a pest. It is caused by an utmost idiotic shit
>>> we are confronted with: the touchpads. The only really useful tool
>>> for navigating is a trackball. But as it is a mechanical device,
>>> manufacturers by all means try to avoid the. IBM had a miniature
>>> "joystick", which somehow works. That thing is easier to produce
>>> than a trackball. A touchpad is much simpler, and so it is cheaper.
>>> We are defrauded with cheap dreck.
>>>
>>> On some notebooks, netbookds, etc the touchpads can bw switched off
>>> by a special command sequence entered via control keys. On some, but
>>> not on all. In that case, there is only one way to kill that damned
>>> stuff: open the computer and pull out the connectors of the
>>> touchpad.
>>>
>>> If you do not want to open the computer, the next solution is to put
>>> something over the touchpad. I found some layers of "post-it" sheets
>>> usefull since they have (a bit of) adhesive to glue them to the
>>> touchpad surface. As the touchpads use capacitance for physical
>>> action, the added layers of paper reduce that sufficiently.
>>
>> If you're using Windows it's quite easy to disable the touchpad in
>> Device Manager if it bothers you that much. Only takes 20 seconds,
>> better than wallpapering your palm rest.
>
> I am using Linux. I don't know if that has some ways to disable it.
> Also, I use a bunch of systems on 1 hardware. So disabling it at the
> hardware/firmware level is best.

Ok.

> Where in the devide manager is the touchpad part located?

On this T60 ThinkPad it's Trackpoint is under 'Mice and other pointing 
devices' and the Touchpad is under 'Human interface devices'.
-- 
/Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a 
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1) 

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#1982

FromHappy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*->
Date2013-06-04 06:12 +0400
Message-ID<n6jqq819pv2v8s7ut6h9ou3ksgmv8cdaak@4ax.com>
In reply to#1980
On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 21:45:44 +1200, "~misfit~"
<shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

>Somewhere on teh intarwebs Happy Oyster wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:29:13 +1200, "~misfit~"
>> <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Happy Oyster wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:02:34 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
>>>> <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The cursor jumps (from the end point of typing to
>>>>> wherever the mouse last left the cursor) in Wordpad
>>>>> on both the ancient Toshiba Satellite laptop and the
>>>>> newish Gateway, so that instead of finishing the word
>>>>> I am typing (blind, being a touch-typist) the last letters
>>>>> pop up on a different line, perhaps in the middle of an
>>>>> unrelated word   This never happens on the desktops,
>>>>> not even when writing in Wordpad.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware
>>>>> controllers for the mouse on laptops?
>>>>
>>>> What you describe is a pest. It is caused by an utmost idiotic shit
>>>> we are confronted with: the touchpads. The only really useful tool
>>>> for navigating is a trackball. But as it is a mechanical device,
>>>> manufacturers by all means try to avoid the. IBM had a miniature
>>>> "joystick", which somehow works. That thing is easier to produce
>>>> than a trackball. A touchpad is much simpler, and so it is cheaper.
>>>> We are defrauded with cheap dreck.
>>>>
>>>> On some notebooks, netbookds, etc the touchpads can bw switched off
>>>> by a special command sequence entered via control keys. On some, but
>>>> not on all. In that case, there is only one way to kill that damned
>>>> stuff: open the computer and pull out the connectors of the
>>>> touchpad.
>>>>
>>>> If you do not want to open the computer, the next solution is to put
>>>> something over the touchpad. I found some layers of "post-it" sheets
>>>> usefull since they have (a bit of) adhesive to glue them to the
>>>> touchpad surface. As the touchpads use capacitance for physical
>>>> action, the added layers of paper reduce that sufficiently.
>>>
>>> If you're using Windows it's quite easy to disable the touchpad in
>>> Device Manager if it bothers you that much. Only takes 20 seconds,
>>> better than wallpapering your palm rest.
>>
>> I am using Linux. I don't know if that has some ways to disable it.
>> Also, I use a bunch of systems on 1 hardware. So disabling it at the
>> hardware/firmware level is best.
>
>Ok.
>
>> Where in the devide manager is the touchpad part located?
>
>On this T60 ThinkPad it's Trackpoint is under 'Mice and other pointing 
>devices' and the Touchpad is under 'Human interface devices'.

Thanks. I will have to search there. But I do not trust Microsoft. Their
constantly changing settings might foul up. 
-- 

Crowd-funding is for money, crowd-publishing is for mankind.

http://www.supermanpost.com/

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