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| Started by | "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> |
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| First post | 2013-05-28 14:02 -0400 |
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Is it WordPad or the hardware? "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> - 2013-05-28 14:02 -0400
Re: Is it WordPad or the hardware? "P.V." <ano@nymo.us> - 2013-05-29 01:26 +0300
Re: Is it WordPad or the hardware? wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2013-05-29 14:15 +0000
Re: Is it WordPad or the hardware? Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2013-06-02 03:06 +0400
Re: Is it WordPad or the hardware? "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2013-06-02 19:29 +1200
Re: Is it WordPad or the hardware? Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2013-06-03 06:59 +0400
Re: Is it WordPad or the hardware? Sjouke Burry <s@b> - 2013-06-03 03:35 +0000
Re: Is it WordPad or the hardware? "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 21:45 +1200
Re: Is it WordPad or the hardware? Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> - 2013-06-04 06:12 +0400
| From | "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> |
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| Date | 2013-05-28 14:02 -0400 |
| Subject | Is it WordPad or the hardware? |
| Message-ID | <ko2s4a$h9e$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
The cursor jumps (from the end point of typing to wherever the mouse last left the cursor) in Wordpad on both the ancient Toshiba Satellite laptop and the newish Gateway, so that instead of finishing the word I am typing (blind, being a touch-typist) the last letters pop up on a different line, perhaps in the middle of an unrelated word This never happens on the desktops, not even when writing in Wordpad. Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware controllers for the mouse on laptops? -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)
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| From | "P.V." <ano@nymo.us> |
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| Date | 2013-05-29 01:26 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <ko3amh$l3c$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1967 |
"Don Phillipson" kirjoitti viestissä:ko2s4a$h9e$1@speranza.aioe.org... > The cursor jumps (from the end point of typing to > wherever the mouse last left the cursor) in Wordpad > on both the ancient Toshiba Satellite laptop and the > newish Gateway, so that instead of finishing the word > I am typing (blind, being a touch-typist) the last letters > pop up on a different line, perhaps in the middle of an > unrelated word This never happens on the desktops, > not even when writing in Wordpad. > > Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware > controllers for the mouse on laptops? Sounds familiar. Same has happened to me too; turned out on one laptop I kept accidentally hitting the pointing stick when pressing keys around it (on some laptops tapping the stick is interpreted as a click by default). On another occasion part of hand sneaked on the touchpad, doing random stuff there. Could it be something like this in your case too? P.V.
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| From | wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) |
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| Date | 2013-05-29 14:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ko52ij$r35$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #1967 |
In article <ko2s4a$h9e$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Don Phillipson <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote: > >Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware >controllers for the mouse on laptops? > Your palm is grazing the touchpad as you type.
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| From | Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> |
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| Date | 2013-06-02 03:06 +0400 |
| Message-ID | <66vkq8t0onli50ppv9opoi16cj2rffr8ek@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1967 |
On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:02:34 -0400, "Don Phillipson" <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote: >The cursor jumps (from the end point of typing to >wherever the mouse last left the cursor) in Wordpad >on both the ancient Toshiba Satellite laptop and the >newish Gateway, so that instead of finishing the word >I am typing (blind, being a touch-typist) the last letters >pop up on a different line, perhaps in the middle of an >unrelated word This never happens on the desktops, >not even when writing in Wordpad. > >Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware >controllers for the mouse on laptops? What you describe is a pest. It is caused by an utmost idiotic shit we are confronted with: the touchpads. The only really useful tool for navigating is a trackball. But as it is a mechanical device, manufacturers by all means try to avoid the. IBM had a miniature "joystick", which somehow works. That thing is easier to produce than a trackball. A touchpad is much simpler, and so it is cheaper. We are defrauded with cheap dreck. On some notebooks, netbookds, etc the touchpads can bw switched off by a special command sequence entered via control keys. On some, but not on all. In that case, there is only one way to kill that damned stuff: open the computer and pull out the connectors of the touchpad. If you do not want to open the computer, the next solution is to put something over the touchpad. I found some layers of "post-it" sheets usefull since they have (a bit of) adhesive to glue them to the touchpad surface. As the touchpads use capacitance for physical action, the added layers of paper reduce that sufficiently. -- Crowd-funding is for money, crowd-publishing is for mankind. http://www.supermanpost.com/
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| From | "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-02 19:29 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <koes01$u1r$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1976 |
Somewhere on teh intarwebs Happy Oyster wrote: > On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:02:34 -0400, "Don Phillipson" > <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote: > >> The cursor jumps (from the end point of typing to >> wherever the mouse last left the cursor) in Wordpad >> on both the ancient Toshiba Satellite laptop and the >> newish Gateway, so that instead of finishing the word >> I am typing (blind, being a touch-typist) the last letters >> pop up on a different line, perhaps in the middle of an >> unrelated word This never happens on the desktops, >> not even when writing in Wordpad. >> >> Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware >> controllers for the mouse on laptops? > > What you describe is a pest. It is caused by an utmost idiotic shit we > are confronted with: the touchpads. The only really useful tool for > navigating is a trackball. But as it is a mechanical device, > manufacturers by all means try to avoid the. IBM had a miniature > "joystick", which somehow works. That thing is easier to produce than > a trackball. A touchpad is much simpler, and so it is cheaper. We are > defrauded with cheap dreck. > > On some notebooks, netbookds, etc the touchpads can bw switched off > by a special command sequence entered via control keys. On some, but > not on all. In that case, there is only one way to kill that damned > stuff: open the computer and pull out the connectors of the touchpad. > > If you do not want to open the computer, the next solution is to put > something over the touchpad. I found some layers of "post-it" sheets > usefull since they have (a bit of) adhesive to glue them to the > touchpad surface. As the touchpads use capacitance for physical > action, the added layers of paper reduce that sufficiently. If you're using Windows it's quite easy to disable the touchpad in Device Manager if it bothers you that much. Only takes 20 seconds, better than wallpapering your palm rest. -- /Shaun. "Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM." David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
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| From | Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> |
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| Date | 2013-06-03 06:59 +0400 |
| Message-ID | <pg1oq81a88vcqerjt40km2oj15bjob0p90@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1977 |
On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:29:13 +1200, "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote: >Somewhere on teh intarwebs Happy Oyster wrote: >> On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:02:34 -0400, "Don Phillipson" >> <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote: >> >>> The cursor jumps (from the end point of typing to >>> wherever the mouse last left the cursor) in Wordpad >>> on both the ancient Toshiba Satellite laptop and the >>> newish Gateway, so that instead of finishing the word >>> I am typing (blind, being a touch-typist) the last letters >>> pop up on a different line, perhaps in the middle of an >>> unrelated word This never happens on the desktops, >>> not even when writing in Wordpad. >>> >>> Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware >>> controllers for the mouse on laptops? >> >> What you describe is a pest. It is caused by an utmost idiotic shit we >> are confronted with: the touchpads. The only really useful tool for >> navigating is a trackball. But as it is a mechanical device, >> manufacturers by all means try to avoid the. IBM had a miniature >> "joystick", which somehow works. That thing is easier to produce than >> a trackball. A touchpad is much simpler, and so it is cheaper. We are >> defrauded with cheap dreck. >> >> On some notebooks, netbookds, etc the touchpads can bw switched off >> by a special command sequence entered via control keys. On some, but >> not on all. In that case, there is only one way to kill that damned >> stuff: open the computer and pull out the connectors of the touchpad. >> >> If you do not want to open the computer, the next solution is to put >> something over the touchpad. I found some layers of "post-it" sheets >> usefull since they have (a bit of) adhesive to glue them to the >> touchpad surface. As the touchpads use capacitance for physical >> action, the added layers of paper reduce that sufficiently. > >If you're using Windows it's quite easy to disable the touchpad in Device >Manager if it bothers you that much. Only takes 20 seconds, better than >wallpapering your palm rest. I am using Linux. I don't know if that has some ways to disable it. Also, I use a bunch of systems on 1 hardware. So disabling it at the hardware/firmware level is best. Where in the devide manager is the touchpad part located? -- Crowd-funding is for money, crowd-publishing is for mankind. http://www.supermanpost.com/
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| From | Sjouke Burry <s@b> |
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| Date | 2013-06-03 03:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA1D43874223F9sjoukeburrysoesterbe@213.75.12.10> |
| In reply to | #1978 |
Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> wrote in news:pg1oq81a88vcqerjt40km2oj15bjob0p90@4ax.com: > On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:29:13 +1200, "~misfit~" > <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote: > >>Somewhere on teh intarwebs Happy Oyster wrote: >>> On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:02:34 -0400, "Don Phillipson" >>> <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> The cursor jumps (from the end point of typing to >>>> wherever the mouse last left the cursor) in Wordpad >>>> on both the ancient Toshiba Satellite laptop and the >>>> newish Gateway, so that instead of finishing the word >>>> I am typing (blind, being a touch-typist) the last letters >>>> pop up on a different line, perhaps in the middle of an >>>> unrelated word This never happens on the desktops, >>>> not even when writing in Wordpad. >>>> >>>> Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware >>>> controllers for the mouse on laptops? >>> >>> What you describe is a pest. It is caused by an utmost idiotic shit >>> we are confronted with: the touchpads. The only really useful tool >>> for navigating is a trackball. But as it is a mechanical device, >>> manufacturers by all means try to avoid the. IBM had a miniature >>> "joystick", which somehow works. That thing is easier to produce >>> than a trackball. A touchpad is much simpler, and so it is cheaper. >>> We are defrauded with cheap dreck. >>> >>> On some notebooks, netbookds, etc the touchpads can bw switched off >>> by a special command sequence entered via control keys. On some, but >>> not on all. In that case, there is only one way to kill that damned >>> stuff: open the computer and pull out the connectors of the >>> touchpad. >>> >>> If you do not want to open the computer, the next solution is to put >>> something over the touchpad. I found some layers of "post-it" sheets >>> usefull since they have (a bit of) adhesive to glue them to the >>> touchpad surface. As the touchpads use capacitance for physical >>> action, the added layers of paper reduce that sufficiently. >> >>If you're using Windows it's quite easy to disable the touchpad in >>Device Manager if it bothers you that much. Only takes 20 seconds, >>better than wallpapering your palm rest. > > I am using Linux. I don't know if that has some ways to disable it. > Also, I use a bunch of systems on 1 hardware. So disabling it at the > hardware/firmware level is best. > > Where in the devide manager is the touchpad part located? At least with one laptop, I could disable the onboard mouse(the pad) in the bios.
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| From | "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-03 21:45 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <kohobt$kqp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1978 |
Somewhere on teh intarwebs Happy Oyster wrote: > On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:29:13 +1200, "~misfit~" > <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Happy Oyster wrote: >>> On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:02:34 -0400, "Don Phillipson" >>> <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> The cursor jumps (from the end point of typing to >>>> wherever the mouse last left the cursor) in Wordpad >>>> on both the ancient Toshiba Satellite laptop and the >>>> newish Gateway, so that instead of finishing the word >>>> I am typing (blind, being a touch-typist) the last letters >>>> pop up on a different line, perhaps in the middle of an >>>> unrelated word This never happens on the desktops, >>>> not even when writing in Wordpad. >>>> >>>> Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware >>>> controllers for the mouse on laptops? >>> >>> What you describe is a pest. It is caused by an utmost idiotic shit >>> we are confronted with: the touchpads. The only really useful tool >>> for navigating is a trackball. But as it is a mechanical device, >>> manufacturers by all means try to avoid the. IBM had a miniature >>> "joystick", which somehow works. That thing is easier to produce >>> than a trackball. A touchpad is much simpler, and so it is cheaper. >>> We are defrauded with cheap dreck. >>> >>> On some notebooks, netbookds, etc the touchpads can bw switched off >>> by a special command sequence entered via control keys. On some, but >>> not on all. In that case, there is only one way to kill that damned >>> stuff: open the computer and pull out the connectors of the >>> touchpad. >>> >>> If you do not want to open the computer, the next solution is to put >>> something over the touchpad. I found some layers of "post-it" sheets >>> usefull since they have (a bit of) adhesive to glue them to the >>> touchpad surface. As the touchpads use capacitance for physical >>> action, the added layers of paper reduce that sufficiently. >> >> If you're using Windows it's quite easy to disable the touchpad in >> Device Manager if it bothers you that much. Only takes 20 seconds, >> better than wallpapering your palm rest. > > I am using Linux. I don't know if that has some ways to disable it. > Also, I use a bunch of systems on 1 hardware. So disabling it at the > hardware/firmware level is best. Ok. > Where in the devide manager is the touchpad part located? On this T60 ThinkPad it's Trackpoint is under 'Mice and other pointing devices' and the Touchpad is under 'Human interface devices'. -- /Shaun. "Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM." David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
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| From | Happy Oyster <-*-*.@.*-*-> |
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| Date | 2013-06-04 06:12 +0400 |
| Message-ID | <n6jqq819pv2v8s7ut6h9ou3ksgmv8cdaak@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1980 |
On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 21:45:44 +1200, "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote: >Somewhere on teh intarwebs Happy Oyster wrote: >> On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:29:13 +1200, "~misfit~" >> <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Happy Oyster wrote: >>>> On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:02:34 -0400, "Don Phillipson" >>>> <e925@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The cursor jumps (from the end point of typing to >>>>> wherever the mouse last left the cursor) in Wordpad >>>>> on both the ancient Toshiba Satellite laptop and the >>>>> newish Gateway, so that instead of finishing the word >>>>> I am typing (blind, being a touch-typist) the last letters >>>>> pop up on a different line, perhaps in the middle of an >>>>> unrelated word This never happens on the desktops, >>>>> not even when writing in Wordpad. >>>>> >>>>> Where is this glitch -- in the software or in hardware >>>>> controllers for the mouse on laptops? >>>> >>>> What you describe is a pest. It is caused by an utmost idiotic shit >>>> we are confronted with: the touchpads. The only really useful tool >>>> for navigating is a trackball. But as it is a mechanical device, >>>> manufacturers by all means try to avoid the. IBM had a miniature >>>> "joystick", which somehow works. That thing is easier to produce >>>> than a trackball. A touchpad is much simpler, and so it is cheaper. >>>> We are defrauded with cheap dreck. >>>> >>>> On some notebooks, netbookds, etc the touchpads can bw switched off >>>> by a special command sequence entered via control keys. On some, but >>>> not on all. In that case, there is only one way to kill that damned >>>> stuff: open the computer and pull out the connectors of the >>>> touchpad. >>>> >>>> If you do not want to open the computer, the next solution is to put >>>> something over the touchpad. I found some layers of "post-it" sheets >>>> usefull since they have (a bit of) adhesive to glue them to the >>>> touchpad surface. As the touchpads use capacitance for physical >>>> action, the added layers of paper reduce that sufficiently. >>> >>> If you're using Windows it's quite easy to disable the touchpad in >>> Device Manager if it bothers you that much. Only takes 20 seconds, >>> better than wallpapering your palm rest. >> >> I am using Linux. I don't know if that has some ways to disable it. >> Also, I use a bunch of systems on 1 hardware. So disabling it at the >> hardware/firmware level is best. > >Ok. > >> Where in the devide manager is the touchpad part located? > >On this T60 ThinkPad it's Trackpoint is under 'Mice and other pointing >devices' and the Touchpad is under 'Human interface devices'. Thanks. I will have to search there. But I do not trust Microsoft. Their constantly changing settings might foul up. -- Crowd-funding is for money, crowd-publishing is for mankind. http://www.supermanpost.com/
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