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  lenovo y580 cmos battery access rwatthers@gmail.com - 2013-04-30 10:37 -0700
    Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2013-05-01 00:57 +0000
      Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access Richard Watherstone <rwatthers@gmail.com> - 2013-05-01 12:32 -0700
        Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access George <george.ruch74@gmail.com> - 2013-05-01 17:41 -0600
          Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2013-05-02 12:58 +1200
            Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2013-05-02 01:28 +0000
              Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access George <george.ruch74@gmail.com> - 2013-05-02 01:08 -0600
                Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2013-05-04 03:18 +0000
            Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access George <george.ruch74@gmail.com> - 2013-05-02 01:12 -0600
              Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2013-05-05 15:15 +1200
            Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2013-05-02 07:55 +0000
              Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2013-05-02 04:06 -0700
                Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2013-05-02 12:09 +0000
                  Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2013-05-02 05:42 -0700
                    Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2013-05-06 06:27 +0000
              Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2013-05-05 15:13 +1200
                Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2013-05-06 06:37 +0000
                  Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2013-05-07 12:50 +1200
                    Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2013-05-07 06:32 +0000
                      Re: lenovo y580 cmos battery access "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2013-05-07 18:52 +1200

#1923 — lenovo y580 cmos battery access

Hi all,

I can't find any information on how to access my cmos battery anywhere...could anyone be of assistance? 

Many thanks,

Richard W

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#1924

There's a stupidly big PDF of the service manual here:

http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/ideapad_y480
_y580_hmm_1st_edition_mar_2012_english.pdf

I don't need the trouble of dealing with 10MB PDFs on my machine 
so I haven't opened it, but replacing the CMOS battery is 
usually a very early chapter in these things.

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#1925

On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 1:57:57 AM UTC+1, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> There's a stupidly big PDF of the service manual here:
> 
> 
> 
> http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/ideapad_y480
> 
> _y580_hmm_1st_edition_mar_2012_english.pdf
> 
> 
> 
> I don't need the trouble of dealing with 10MB PDFs on my machine 
> 
> so I haven't opened it, but replacing the CMOS battery is 
> 
> usually a very early chapter in these things.
> 
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 Thanks Kev,i looked through this and another lenovo manual but nothing is mentioned anywhere with regards to accessing the battery.I'm a bit stuck as i need to change the battery in order to get the machine functioning correctly again.

Cheers.

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#1926

Richard Watherstone <rwatthers@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 1:57:57 AM UTC+1, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> There's a stupidly big PDF of the service manual here:
>> 
>> http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/ideapad_y480
>> _y580_hmm_1st_edition_mar_2012_english.pdf

> Thanks Kev,i looked through this and another lenovo manual but nothing is mentioned anywhere with regards to accessing the battery.I'm a bit stuck as i need to change the battery in order to get the machine functioning correctly again.

The CMOS battery is normally mounted to the main system board. It
should be accessible via the Hard Disk/Memory/etc. compartment
cover (1030, pg. 41) or by removing the keyboard  (1080, pg. 48)
and keyboard bezel (1090, pg. 51) to expose the top of the system
board.  All references are to procedures and pages in the above
HMM.

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#1927

Somewhere on teh intarwebs George wrote:
> Richard Watherstone <rwatthers@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 1:57:57 AM UTC+1, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> There's a stupidly big PDF of the service manual here:
>>>
>>> http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/ideapad_y480
>>> _y580_hmm_1st_edition_mar_2012_english.pdf
>
>> Thanks Kev,i looked through this and another lenovo manual but
>> nothing is mentioned anywhere with regards to accessing the
>> battery.I'm a bit stuck as i need to change the battery in order to
>> get the machine functioning correctly again.
>
> The CMOS battery is normally mounted to the main system board. It
> should be accessible via the Hard Disk/Memory/etc. compartment
> cover (1030, pg. 41) or by removing the keyboard  (1080, pg. 48)
> and keyboard bezel (1090, pg. 51) to expose the top of the system
> board.  All references are to procedures and pages in the above
> HMM.

Good man George. It's good to see someone who isn't scared of a 'stupidly 
big' PDF file. Those HMMs take >10 seconds to d/l and open in another 5 
seconds in Foxit reader. They seem to cause 'trouble' for computer nerds for 
some reason. <shrug>
-- 
/Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a 
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1) 

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#1928

In article <klsdgt$446$1@dont-email.me>,
~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>They seem to cause 'trouble' for computer nerds for some reason. <shrug>
>-- 

	Well, FWIW, pdf files and the associated readers have had some
major security flaws lately.  Carefully crafted pdf files can result in
code injection exploits, stuff like that...

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#1929

wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) wrote:

>In article <klsdgt$446$1@dont-email.me>,
>~misfit~ <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>They seem to cause 'trouble' for computer nerds for some reason. <shrug>
>>-- 
>	Well, FWIW, pdf files and the associated readers have had some
>major security flaws lately.  Carefully crafted pdf files can result in
>code injection exploits, stuff like that...

Which is why $DeityOfYourChoice invented antivirus software.

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#1937

In article <s444o8l92ntql07t08a9d5k0lspu0ajnv8@4ax.com>,
George  <george.ruch74@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Which is why $DeityOfYourChoice invented antivirus software.


	Anti virus programs aren't always effective against new exploits.
Check out CVE-2013-0640 and CVE-2013-0641.  Even setting the NX bit won't
help because the exploit runs in executable stack space.

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#1930

"~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

>Good man George. It's good to see someone who isn't scared of a 'stupidly 
>big' PDF file. Those HMMs take >10 seconds to d/l and open in another 5 
>seconds in Foxit reader. They seem to cause 'trouble' for computer nerds for 
>some reason. <shrug>

That must be the younger generation.  This particular computer
nerd started repairing avionics system components in 1970.

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#1939

Somewhere on teh intarwebs George wrote:
> "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Good man George. It's good to see someone who isn't scared of a
>> 'stupidly big' PDF file. Those HMMs take >10 seconds to d/l and open
>> in another 5 seconds in Foxit reader. They seem to cause 'trouble'
>> for computer nerds for some reason. <shrug>
>
> That must be the younger generation.  This particular computer
> nerd started repairing avionics system components in 1970.

Yep, I'm just a whipper-snapper at 52 y/o (in a couple weeks). I didn't open 
a computer boxen until... 1990 I think it was. :)
-- 
/Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a 
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1) 

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#1931

On 02 May 2013, ~misfit~ wrote:

> Good man George. It's good to see someone who isn't scared
> of a 'stupidly big' PDF file. Those HMMs take >10 seconds
> to d/l

Yep I agree it takes ">10 seconds" to plop it off the interwebs. 
Doing the rough calculations here I find it would probably take 
about four times that long on my connection running full speed. 
Yes I know that is hardly an age, but I guess I wasn't feeling 
awfully inspired yesterday.

> and open in another 5 seconds in Foxit reader.

Well my machine isn't really a powerhouse by today's standards, 
Firefox hung the first time I tried to open the file, so I 
stopped it loading. I could have downloaded it separately and 
opened it thereafter but didn't want to download 10MB again.

> They
> seem to cause 'trouble' for computer nerds for some reason.
> <shrug> 

I have a computer set up for the purposes I require of it. 
Downloading excessively large PDFs is an uncommon occurrence and 
one that most frustrates me in any case, as I know I would only 
look at a tiny portion of that data in a case like this.

I could get on the upgrade train that the web inspires. The 
motherboard in the machine I'm using ten years old, back then I 
wouldn't be the only one complaining about a 10MB PDF. But I 
don't see why I should expend time and money in upgrading every 
few years just to make it slightly quicker to interact with 
parts of the web that I rarely use and find frustrating in 
principal anyway. In fact I'm here on Usenet mainly because I 
dislike the bloat and slowness of web forums.


In any case, what I said was perfectly correct. If you feel your 
purpose here is to inspire everyone to devote themselves as much 
as possible to the good of the newsgroup, then good luck to you.

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#1932

On Thursday, May 2, 2013 2:55:16 AM UTC-5, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> On 02 May 2013, ~misfit~ wrote:
 
> 
> > Good man George. It's good to see someone who isn't scared
> 
> > of a 'stupidly big' PDF file. Those HMMs take >10 seconds
> 
> > to d/l
> 
> 

> 
> 
> Well my machine isn't really a powerhouse by today's standards, 
> 
> Firefox hung the first time I tried to open the file, so I 
> 
> stopped it loading. I could have downloaded it separately and 
> 
> opened it thereafter but didn't want to download 10MB again.
> 

> 
> I have a computer set up for the purposes I require of it. 
> 
> Downloading excessively large PDFs is an uncommon occurrence and 
> 
> one that most frustrates me in any case, as I know I would only 
> 
> look at a tiny portion of that data in a case like this.
> 
> 

No offense...but it doesn't sound like you are "a nerd" Kev.
I have a PC at work (P4 3Ghz,3Gb) that cooks...and it's 9 yrs old!

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#1933

On 02 May 2013, Bob_Villa wrote:

> No offense...but it doesn't sound like you are "a nerd"
> Kev.

Well perhaps not by the general definition. I have a strong 
interest, but mainly in older computers from the last century.

If you met me, I wouldn't blabber on about the latest forty 
core super CPU or the range of cloud storage options. I might 
however bore you to death by talking about the impact of the 
6502 or the history of GUI computer systems _before_ the 
macintosh.

In any case, you're reading a bit more into my username than I 
really ever intended. :)

> I have a PC at work (P4 3Ghz,3Gb) that cooks...and
> it's 9 yrs old!

Well my motherboard is actually from 2001, so I guess it's 
about 12 years old. It's a 1GHz Athlon, 512MB. My machine is a 
decent, just above mid-range machine from its time. I don't 
claim it's my newest/fastest PC (I have much more modern ones 
that I'm planning to sell), I just don't see the need to 
switch.

That is a really good PC for 2004 though.

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#1934

On Thursday, May 2, 2013 7:09:08 AM UTC-5, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

> 
> That is a really good PC for 2004 though.
> 

Maybe you a "nerd" like me...I wanted something for the WIFI at work (I need to document facility environmentals). An IT friend gave me this Dell 8400 and I had some memory (and SATA HDD) from a deceased Gateway (another friend gave me).
In 2004 it sold with a system for $3000! It kicks ass...considering its age!
 

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#1944

On 02 May 2013, Bob_Villa wrote:

> Maybe you a "nerd" like me...I wanted something for the
> WIFI at work (I need to document facility environmentals).
> An IT friend gave me this Dell 8400 and I had some memory
> (and SATA HDD) from a deceased Gateway (another friend gave
> me). In 2004 it sold with a system for $3000! It kicks
> ass...considering its age! 

That's more like it. In fact for fun, last time I wanted a 
WiFi laptop I tried to use a twenty year old Toshiba T1910CS 
with a 33MHz 486 and 8MB RAM. Almost worked, but there was 
some strange incompatibility with the particular router I 
wanted to use it with. Works well elsewhere though (as long as 
you like text mode web browsing, that is).

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#1938

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> On 02 May 2013, ~misfit~ wrote:
>
>> Good man George. It's good to see someone who isn't scared
>> of a 'stupidly big' PDF file. Those HMMs take >10 seconds
>> to d/l
>
> Yep I agree it takes ">10 seconds" to plop it off the interwebs.
> Doing the rough calculations here I find it would probably take
> about four times that long on my connection running full speed.
> Yes I know that is hardly an age, but I guess I wasn't feeling
> awfully inspired yesterday.

Ok.

>> and open in another 5 seconds in Foxit reader.
>
> Well my machine isn't really a powerhouse by today's standards,
> Firefox hung the first time I tried to open the file, so I
> stopped it loading. I could have downloaded it separately and
> opened it thereafter but didn't want to download 10MB again.

I find it odd in this day and age that you'd think twice about d/ling 10MB. 
I'm an invalid on welfare so hunted out the best value for money package as 
I have *zero* leeway with bill paying. Even so, in New Zealand (where teh 
webs are expensive relatively...) I get 17Mb download speed and 100GB/month 
allowance - which I'm lucky to use half of.

>> They
>> seem to cause 'trouble' for computer nerds for some reason.
>> <shrug>
>
> I have a computer set up for the purposes I require of it.

Ditto.

> Downloading excessively large PDFs is an uncommon occurrence and
> one that most frustrates me in any case, as I know I would only
> look at a tiny portion of that data in a case like this.

I still find it odd to call 10MB 'excessively large'.

> I could get on the upgrade train that the web inspires. The
> motherboard in the machine I'm using ten years old, back then I
> wouldn't be the only one complaining about a 10MB PDF. But I
> don't see why I should expend time and money in upgrading every
> few years just to make it slightly quicker to interact with
> parts of the web that I rarely use and find frustrating in
> principal anyway. In fact I'm here on Usenet mainly because I
> dislike the bloat and slowness of web forums.

My newest machine (my daily user) is a laptop (T60 ThinkPad) from 2007 that 
I bought second-hand in 2009. Hardly 'cutting-edge'. I too dislike (most) 
web-forums due to bloated interfaces and have been a usenetter for well over 
a decade - closer to two actually (my gods! where did the time go?).

> In any case, what I said was perfectly correct. If you feel your
> purpose here is to inspire everyone to devote themselves as much
> as possible to the good of the newsgroup, then good luck to you.

Nope, I just found that statement from someone who calls themself 'computer 
nerd' rather incongruous is all. <shrug>
-- 
/Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a 
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1) 

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#1945

On 05 May 2013, ~misfit~ wrote:

> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> On 02 May 2013, ~misfit~ wrote:
>>
>> Downloading excessively large PDFs is an uncommon
>> occurrence and one that most frustrates me in any case, as
>> I know I would only look at a tiny portion of that data in
>> a case like this. 
> 
> I still find it odd to call 10MB 'excessively large'.

Well it's for the sake of looking at a few of the pages for a 
minute or two at the most. I suppose my objection is mainly 
ideological. On the other hand, I avoid Youtube videos like 
the plague, so perhaps it's more download paranoia.

Still in both cases I would be a lot happier with a simple no-
nonsense webpage with links allowing you to select what needs 
to be downloaded.

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#1949

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> On 05 May 2013, ~misfit~ wrote:
>
>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> On 02 May 2013, ~misfit~ wrote:
>>>
>>> Downloading excessively large PDFs is an uncommon
>>> occurrence and one that most frustrates me in any case, as
>>> I know I would only look at a tiny portion of that data in
>>> a case like this.
>>
>> I still find it odd to call 10MB 'excessively large'.
>
> Well it's for the sake of looking at a few of the pages for a
> minute or two at the most.

Yeah, but if someone owns said model of laptop there's a good chance they'll 
need the rest of it sometime.

> I suppose my objection is mainly
> ideological. On the other hand, I avoid Youtube videos like
> the plague, so perhaps it's more download paranoia.

I had the same thing until a year or two ago when it became affordable to 
have an ISP plan that left so much headroom I started using it....

> Still in both cases I would be a lot happier with a simple no-
> nonsense webpage with links allowing you to select what needs
> to be downloaded.

That would be very complicated for Lenovo to run though. This way they 
provide all of the info the owner of a certain laptop will ever need in a 
single 'download once' package. No need to be on-line to access it (which 
bugs me no end - is it Dell who do it like that? Really annoying if I don't 
have said laptop on-line yet...).

Also though, if you want more detail Lenovo has individual streaming video 
service guides for removal of various parts - including parts like the LCD 
display. (They re-arranged their website recently so I can't give you a link 
as an example - mine are broken now.)
-- 
/Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a 
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1) 

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#1951

On 07 May 2013, ~misfit~ wrote:

> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> On 05 May 2013, ~misfit~ wrote:
>>
>>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>
>>> I still find it odd to call 10MB 'excessively large'.
>>
>> Well it's for the sake of looking at a few of the pages
>> for a minute or two at the most.
> 
> Yeah, but if someone owns said model of laptop there's a
> good chance they'll need the rest of it sometime.

Sure. I keep Service Manual PDFs for most of my laptops, where 
they are available. For me though, that's a different situation 
to what this was. I provided the link for the laptop owner.

>> I suppose my objection is mainly
>> ideological. On the other hand, I avoid Youtube videos
>> like the plague, so perhaps it's more download paranoia.
> 
> I had the same thing until a year or two ago when it became
> affordable to have an ISP plan that left so much headroom I
> started using it.... 

OK.

>> Still in both cases I would be a lot happier with a simple
>> no- nonsense webpage with links allowing you to select
>> what needs to be downloaded.
> 
> That would be very complicated for Lenovo to run though.
> This way they provide all of the info the owner of a
> certain laptop will ever need in a single 'download once'
> package.

Of course. Plus these things aren't really meant for owners 
anyway, rather for your local authorised serviceman at the 
computer shop. Lenovo are good, they put the service manuals on 
their site. On the other hand Toshiba won't even let you put 
them up on your own server:
http://www.tim.id.au/blog/2012/11/10/toshiba-laptop-service-
manuals-and-the-sorry-state-of-copyright-law/

If through some form of divine intervention, witchcraft or 
whatever, I ended up with a say on how these things were 
published, I would want a PDF of the document sent to the 
servicemen _and_ a HTML version. It won't happen. Unless the 
world comes under a CNK dictatorship, that is.

> No need to be on-line to access it (which bugs me
> no end - is it Dell who do it like that? Really annoying if
> I don't have said laptop on-line yet...).

Sure, I'd never want the PDF version to go away. If they did 
that, I'd be saving the webpages to disk (for laptops that I 
own).

> Also though, if you want more detail Lenovo has individual
> streaming video service guides for removal of various parts
> - including parts like the LCD display. (They re-arranged
> their website recently so I can't give you a link as an
> example - mine are broken now.) 

Hmm, from big PDFs to videos. Things aren't really getting any 
better for me. Still, I'm glad Lenovo are making the effort for 
people doing repairs themselves, I wondered if this approach was 
only going to be short-term as the IBM influence faded away.

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#1953

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> On 07 May 2013, ~misfit~ wrote:
[snip]
>> Also though, if you want more detail Lenovo has individual
>> streaming video service guides for removal of various parts
>> - including parts like the LCD display. (They re-arranged
>> their website recently so I can't give you a link as an
>> example - mine are broken now.)
>
> Hmm, from big PDFs to videos. Things aren't really getting any
> better for me. Still, I'm glad Lenovo are making the effort for
> people doing repairs themselves, I wondered if this approach was
> only going to be short-term as the IBM influence faded away.

I too am very impressed that Lenovo are still doing this. I know they're 
doing it for their ThinkPad range (IBM put some binding long-term clauses in 
the contract for buying the ThinkPad brand), I don't think though that 
Lenovo do it for all of their non-ThinkPad laptops.

Cheers,
-- 
/Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a 
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1) 

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